Copenhagen sightseeing [Quenched]

[Flapcake]

well now when my Denmark have achieved beta (and ther will be some corrections on that road) I think its time to fire up on copenhagen, so whats the status here ? gameplay wise ?

[Industrial Helix]

Would it be possible to swap out the current Christiania flag for a flag on a pole or something that will make it clear its a flag, cause every time I look at it I see zany traffic light and not flag.

I don't see much more time in the Drafting room for this one.

[The Bison King]

Would it be possible to swap out the current Christiania flag for a flag on a pole or something that will make it clear its a flag, cause every time I look at it I see zany traffic light and not flag.

I don't see much more time in the Drafting room for this one.

Indeed.
Just be sure to take care of those things that were mentioned. Good Luck!

[Flapcake]

Would it be possible to swap out the current Christiania flag for a flag on a pole or something that will make it clear its a flag, cause every time I look at it I see zany traffic light and not flag.

I don't see much more time in the Drafting room for this one.

Indeed.
Just be sure to take care of those things that were mentioned. Good Luck!

thx Ih and TBK

I get your point about the flag on a pole, done on next update

[Flapcake]

Christiania improved.

Gameplay, I dont even know if its posible in XML, but hold any 3 of 5 sights to win, can that work ?

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[koontz1973]

Christiania improved.

Gameplay, I dont even know if its posible in XML, but hold any 3 of 5 sights to win, can that work ?

Any amount can be done.

[Flapcake]

Hi guys, need some wise input/comments for game play

[koontz1973]

Some thoughts.

With the 3 icons (plane, train & bus) auto deploy +1, this is OK but remove the tram stops from the two that have them. It makes them strong and being able to attack all districts.
With the +3 of the 5 winning condition icons, a neutral needs to be larger (around a 5) to stop them being taken early in small games.
Try to move you WC icons from the tram stops. Some are right next to one while others are a couple of territs away.
You have no small bonuses. It might be wise to create a couple of small bonuses. Change City North into City North (Holmans, State & Botanical) and City East. This gives you central small bonuses for early fighting.
You have no impassables? I can see in the underlying image some parks and a lake. If you can bring these out (in keeping with the tourist map idea), you create some. This would then affect your bonuses.
What are the dotted lines? If they are bridges, make them the same as the others.

[Flapcake]

Some thoughts.

With the 3 icons (plane, train & bus) auto deploy +1, this is OK but remove the tram stops from the two that have them. It makes them strong and being able to attack all districts.
With the +3 of the 5 winning condition icons, a neutral needs to be larger (around a 5) to stop them being taken early in small games.
Try to move you WC icons from the tram stops. Some are right next to one while others are a couple of territs away.
You have no small bonuses. It might be wise to create a couple of small bonuses. Change City North into City North (Holmans, State & Botanical) and City East. This gives you central small bonuses for early fighting.
You have no impassables? I can see in the underlying image some parks and a lake. If you can bring these out (in keeping with the tourist map idea), you create some. This would then affect your bonuses.
What are the dotted lines? If they are bridges, make them the same as the others.

Il take a closer look at your suggestions, you got some good points, working on a update.

[Victor Sullivan]

Hm, in terms of gameplay, I suggest the following:

City North --> +8
City South --> +6
Amager --> +5

I think the win condition is a bit too easy. I suggest requiring 4 of the 5, and putting neutral 1s on the metro stations, 3s on the autodeploys, and 4 on the objective regions.

-Sully

[Flapcake]

Hm, in terms of gameplay, I suggest the following:

City North --> +8
City South --> +6
Amager --> +5

I think the win condition is a bit too easy. I suggest requiring 4 of the 5, and putting neutral 1s on the metro stations, 3s on the autodeploys, and 4 on the objective regions.

-Sully

Im working on a update, hope to post it later to day

[Flapcake]

Update, changes: gameplay, bonus city south and amager upgradet with 1. Impassebles in form as "cones"
Winning condiction are "hold 4 of 5 sigths to win, 1 neutra on metro stations, 3 neutral on ferry/plane/train, 4 neutral on sigth icons.

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[koontz1973]

Someone has been into the London thread. Busy right now but will have a proper look later.

[Flapcake]

Someone has been into the London thread. Busy right now but will have a proper look later.

he he yes it might look like, but I've actually worked on it for a while

[Flapcake]

Any gameplay stamp in the horisiont for this ?

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[bryguy]

- Conditions: In the legend, I'd change it to "Hold any 4 sights for 1 round to win". You only need 4, not 5, so why tell them that they need either 4 or more?

- Some of the bonuses seem a bit... unbalanced. I'm not the best at telling how much of a bonus places should get to fit well with how many territories they have to protect from attack and how many territories can attack them, but this seems unbalanced. That's about all I can tell you there. May want to have someone give a second opinion on this though.

- *Impassable, not impasseble.

[Flapcake]

- Conditions: In the legend, I'd change it to "Hold any 4 sights for 1 round to win". You only need 4, not 5, so why tell them that they need either 4 or more?

- Some of the bonuses seem a bit... unbalanced. I'm not the best at telling how much of a bonus places should get to fit well with how many territories they have to protect from attack and how many territories can attack them, but this seems unbalanced. That's about all I can tell you there. May want to have someone give a second opinion on this though.

- *Impassable, not impasseble.

words of use and misspellings is no problem to change.

The bonuses are based on how many areas are connected to each other (how many you need to defend with more than 1 troop) and/+ how many areas keeps a bonus.

[bryguy]

- Conditions: In the legend, I'd change it to "Hold any 4 sights for 1 round to win". You only need 4, not 5, so why tell them that they need either 4 or more?

- Some of the bonuses seem a bit... unbalanced. I'm not the best at telling how much of a bonus places should get to fit well with how many territories they have to protect from attack and how many territories can attack them, but this seems unbalanced. That's about all I can tell you there. May want to have someone give a second opinion on this though.

- *Impassable, not impasseble.

words of use and misspellings is no problem to change.

The bonuses are based on how many areas are connected to each other (how many you need to defend with more than 1 troop) and/+ how many areas keeps a bonus.

Ah yep that's what I missed, I didn't realize the metros all connected. Does make more sense now.

[Flapcake]

- Conditions: In the legend, I'd change it to "Hold any 4 sights for 1 round to win". You only need 4, not 5, so why tell them that they need either 4 or more?

- Some of the bonuses seem a bit... unbalanced. I'm not the best at telling how much of a bonus places should get to fit well with how many territories they have to protect from attack and how many territories can attack them, but this seems unbalanced. That's about all I can tell you there. May want to have someone give a second opinion on this though.

- *Impassable, not impasseble.

words of use and misspellings is no problem to change.

The bonuses are based on how many areas are connected to each other (how many you need to defend with more than 1 troop) and/+ how many areas keeps a bonus.

Ah yep that's what I missed, I didn't realize the metros all connected. Does make more sense now.

Np. but if there are some good ideas to add some more gameplay within reasonable limits, it is very welcome

[Flapcake]

Changes: legend, minor misspellings.

Anything more about gameplay ? or do we have a stamp in sight ?

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[crazymilkshake5]

Looks good to me, but then again I'm no mod, haha

[DoomYoshi]

Good idea for a map.

4 sights sounds weird. I know how it was derived, but 4 sites makes more sense (to me).

What is the intended gameplay on this map? I like how 2-players start with 11 and there are no small bonuses. But 14 neutrals means that one-third of the map most likely won't be used in 2-player games.

Team games is a similar story, especially on 8-players since it will be so easy for teams to wipe players out (due to small number of starting territories).

That leaves single-player action as the main focus. However, with no small bonuses, single-player will pretty much degrade into a slugfest.

Basically, I am going to give you the same advice I give to every mapmaker: get rid of unnecessary neutrals. I think the objectives should stay neutral, but everything else should drop to 1 neutral, or become starting territories.

EDIT: somehow I missed that the ports etc. give bonuses. That makes the map much more playable in team mode. Single-player will still be a slugfest though. (I define a slugfest as a game which is decided more by dice than anything else).

[Flapcake]

Good idea for a map.

4 sights sounds weird. I know how it was derived, but 4 sites makes more sense (to me).

What is the intended gameplay on this map? I like how 2-players start with 11 and there are no small bonuses. But 14 neutrals means that one-third of the map most likely won't be used in 2-player games.

Team games is a similar story, especially on 8-players since it will be so easy for teams to wipe players out (due to small number of starting territories).

That leaves single-player action as the main focus. However, with no small bonuses, single-player will pretty much degrade into a slugfest.

Basically, I am going to give you the same advice I give to every mapmaker: get rid of unnecessary neutrals. I think the objectives should stay neutral, but everything else should drop to 1 neutral, or become starting territories.

EDIT: somehow I missed that the ports etc. give bonuses. That makes the map much more playable in team mode. Single-player will still be a slugfest though. (I define a slugfest as a game which is decided more by dice than anything else).

Hi DoomYoshi
Im glad to recive your comment and suggestion, thats what the foundry are for

I would be even more than happy if maby you, or ohters made and description on troop placement and distbrution.
Im not an eagle to gameplay so im all ears

[Dukasaur]

Excellent map! I didn't even know this existed until I read the article in the newsletter. I'm glad I finally found it. This is exactly the kind of map I've been hoping to see for a long time. Bravo!



If you want a comment, I think the bonuses might be slightly too large. Their approximate rank looks right, but I would range the bonuses from 3 to 6 instead of 4 to 7.

[DoomYoshi]

Before I can answer, I need to know what sort of gameplay you are aiming for. Right now, this map is similar to arms race and the two unification maps.