The Conquer 500

by **dolomite13** on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:20 pm

May have some good news on this shortly... Stay tuned.

It would be nice to have this in Beta by Memorial Day.

=D=

by **Gilligan** on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:35 pm

I have taken the liberty in adjusting the needed coordinates and making a few minor changes noted by nolefan a few posts back, so that we don't have to stall this any longer while it can be helped.

XML: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... uer500.xml

88S:

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888S:

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88L:

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888L:

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With that, we are ready for BETA. Everything else that was already in the XML has cleared.

by **thehippo8** on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:50 am

I can't wait!

by **-=- Tanarri -=-** on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:45 am

If I'm reading the previous messages correctly, I believe there were some changes made the the crew locations which shouldn't have been made? It's been such a long time since I've paid much attention to the design of this map, so perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it sounds like if you go to the top of the previous page.

by **Gilligan** on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:00 am

-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:If I'm reading the previous messages correctly, I believe there were some changes made the the crew locations which shouldn't have been made? It's been such a long time since I've paid much attention to the design of this map, so perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it sounds like if you go to the top of the previous page.

I believe that was regarding XML and not change in game play.

by **-=- Tanarri -=-** on Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:33 pm

Gilligan wrote:
-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:If I'm reading the previous messages correctly, I believe there were some changes made the the crew locations which shouldn't have been made? It's been such a long time since I've paid much attention to the design of this map, so perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it sounds like if you go to the top of the previous page.

I believe that was regarding XML and not change in game play.

The comment I was talking about sounded like nolefan was confused on how a gameplay aspect was supposed to work and had suggested a change to the XML which ended up not being needed. My concern is to make sure you didn't change the XML as nolefan suggested for that one part, since the XML sounded like it was supposed to be the way it was originally in that regard and nolefan just didn't understand the gameplay aspect when he made the suggestion.

by **-=- Tanarri -=-** on Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:35 pm

BTW Gilligan, thanks for taking the initiative here to fix the last bit of XML that needed to be updated. It'll be great to see this map finally in play

by **dolomite13** on Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:14 pm

-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:BTW Gilligan, thanks for taking the initiative here to fix the last bit of XML that needed to be updated. It'll be great to see this map finally in play

I agree, I have had so little time and have had to put any map development on hold due to real life. I am glad Gilligan stepped up and finished this for us all.

Oddly I just quit my job and I am currently looking so I have a bit of time to poke around with maps for a few weeks while I look... timing is a wonderful thing isn't it ... If anyone knows of any front end web development jobs in the Seattle area please message me.

=D=

by **dolomite13** on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:33 pm

Any chance I can update the graphics and add Gilligan for the XML work?

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/5716/c500100sm.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img199/4578/c500100lg.png

by **thenobodies80** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:39 pm

Turn on your engines!
It's time to race!

Beta - Quenching

---The development period has concluded for the Conquer 500 Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Admins or Foundry Foreman vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

a timely and constructive manner.

thenobodies80

by **Gilligan** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:46 pm

huzzah!

by **dolomite13** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:41 pm

Wow ... nice ... I'll get on those bullet points ... see you guys all on the track

=D=

by **thehippo8** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:20 am

Oh wow ... it's been so long I thought this day would never come. Congrats and thanks Dolomite for hanging in there and delivering!

EDIT ... yes, thanks Gilligan for helping make it happen and doing such a great job on the XML

by **dolomite13** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:35 am

thehippo8 wrote:Oh wow ... it's been so long I thought this day would never come. Congrats and thanks Dolomite for hanging in there and delivering!

And big thanks to Gilligan for finishing up that XML.

=D=

by **Gilligan** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:20 am

no problem!

but there is a little issue...

dolomite, you seemed to have changed the size when doing an update?!

this one is 800x782 (which is what I did for the xml) but the one live and most recent update is 808v790, and the coordinates on the large map aren't center.

by **dolomite13** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:15 pm

I don't have a single version saved to my machine that is 800x782 it must have been something imageshack did to the image. I never had this issue when using flickr.

Lets try this one that I re-sized.

Corrected Image

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1535 ... 800782.png

=D=

by **thenobodies80** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:40 pm

The file has been sent.

by **betiko** on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:31 pm

i ve been playing it today, and to tell the truth it looks like 100% of the games have ended with the player starting first in 1v1, people complained about it in chats as well. i think it's possible to get way too much bonus on turn 1, player 2 has to go through 3 neutrals of 2 to break the bonuses taken by player 1. otherwise I like the concept (didn't catch too well how the track jumping goes, not clear why certain segments can attack each other and also it looks like you can only attack in front but you can also attack behind, i would ve thought o a circus maximus logic)

anyway just a little feedback, and thanks for the map.

by **dolomite13** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:28 am

betiko wrote:i ve been playing it today, and to tell the truth it looks like 100% of the games have ended with the player starting first in 1v1, people complained about it in chats as well. i think it's possible to get way too much bonus on turn 1, player 2 has to go through 3 neutrals of 2 to break the bonuses taken by player 1. otherwise I like the concept (didn't catch too well how the track jumping goes, not clear why certain segments can attack each other and also it looks like you can only attack in front but you can also attack behind, i would ve thought o a circus maximus logic)

anyway just a little feedback, and thanks for the map.

Interesting about 1v1 ... I am going to play a few and see if that's indeed true. If so there may need to be some balancing done somewhere.

The attacks around the track were done that way to simulate overtaking as well as track positioning and drafting etc... racing strategy ...

In this example

X Y Z >> A B C >> D E F >> G H I

A can attack B,C,D,E,F but not G,H,I,X,Y,Z
B can attack A,C,D,E,F but not G,H,I,X,Y,Z
C can attack A,B,D,E,F but not G,H,I,X,Y,Z
D can attack E,F,G,H,I but not A,B,C or X,Y,Z

=D=

by **isaiah40** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:16 am

Game 12533060 I took Pit Equipment A and it is giving me +3 for that one spot. According to the legend it is +3 if you hold 1 of each Fuel, Tires and Engine. Or am I reading it wrong??

by **nolefan5311** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:23 am

isaiah40 wrote:Game 12533060 I took Pit Equipment A and it is giving me +3 for that one spot. According to the legend it is +3 if you hold 1 of each Fuel, Tires and Engine. Or am I reading it wrong??

Yeah, that doesn't seem right. Continents overview describes it as "A Pit Tool, a Pit Jack, and a Pit Engine".

I think I see the problem in the code:

Code: Select all: <continent> <name>A Pit Tool and A Pit Jack and A Pit Engine</name> <bonus>3</bonus> <components> <continent>A Pit Fuel</continent> <continent>A Pit Tires</continent> <continent>A Pit Engine</continent> </components> <required>1</required> <overrides> <override>A Pit Fuel</override> <override>A Pit Tires</override> <override>A Pit Engine</override> </overrides> </continent>

I think the <required> tag is throwing it all off.

by **ender516** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:56 pm

Right. The <required> tag gives the minimum number of components required to earn the bonus. That tag would be appropriate in the component continents, but not in this one summing them up.

by **dolomite13** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:44 pm

You are correct... It shouldn't give +3 for holding only one of the 3 red icons ... it should for holding only 1 of each fuel,tires, engine.

by **dolomite13** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:50 pm

In A 2 player game it does seem like player 1 can get off to a bonus big enough to clear out the track and get that 40 bonus too quickly. I think I won in three or four turns.

Not sure what can be done about that. Perhapse the fuel, tires, engine spots need to be bumped to 3 neutral and their overall bonus decreased to +2 for holding one of each because they are the conduit to bombard the cars. Or perhaps they could have conditional borders added and you would need to hold one of each to bombard the cars. I am just thinking out loud now.

I am also seeing people ignore the track ... maybe the red circles on the track could have an autodeploy of 2 added or a +1 bonus added for them to make them attractive and make people concentrate more on the track as well.

Thoughts?

=D=

by **rdsrds2120** on Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:34 pm

dolomite13 wrote:In A 2 player game it does seem like player 1 can get off to a bonus big enough to clear out the track and get that 40 bonus too quickly. I think I won in three or four turns.

Not sure what can be done about that. Perhapse the fuel, tires, engine spots need to be bumped to 3 neutral and their overall bonus decreased to +2 for holding one of each because they are the conduit to bombard the cars. Or perhaps they could have conditional borders added and you would need to hold one of each to bombard the cars. I am just thinking out loud now.

I am also seeing people ignore the track ... maybe the red circles on the track could have an autodeploy of 2 added or a +1 bonus added for them to make them attractive and make people concentrate more on the track as well.

Thoughts?

=D=

That would be really fun in trench!

BMO