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Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon and Contest!

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When we put the final suggestion through, which icon do you like the best to replace?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:32 am

JefJef's Feather concept
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Queen_Herpes/JefJefs horn/bugle concept
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Alex's Dog Tags concept
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qwert's NR symbol concept
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Total votes : 18

Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:24 am

Army of GOD wrote:I feel like this is an extremely simple suggestion. Doesn't lack just have to access the imaging code and replace the "?" with the dogtags or whatever is the most popular?

I also don't see why you'd want to keep the "?". It sucks.


Agreed, its so boring. Plus, you have the same symbol used on foggy maps for the unknown territories and for information in the log on foggy maps. Seems like the symbol "?" is overused.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:35 am

I think lack has a "?" fetish.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby alex951 on Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:25 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:10 pm

alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


Do I look like Jesus?
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:08 am

Army of GOD wrote:
alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


Do I look like Jesus?


I don't think Jesus would make a good new recruit icon.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby natty dread on Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:28 am

I'm not seeing any really viable alternatives for the ? here.

The ? is very clear and descriptive. It's a new player, nobody knows anything about him/her yet, we don't know about skill etc. so a question mark is appropriate. It stands out clearly from the other ranks, which is good because lots of new recruits deadbeat - thus it is good for players to spot them easily.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:06 pm

natty_dread wrote:I'm not seeing any really viable alternatives for the ? here.

The ? is very clear and descriptive. It's a new player, nobody knows anything about him/her yet, we don't know about skill etc. so a question mark is appropriate. It stands out clearly from the other ranks, which is good because lots of new recruits deadbeat - thus it is good for players to spot them easily.


The ? is symbolically unclear and represents the random map, unknown territories in fog, and currently the new recruit. I wonder how many new recruits played a fooggy game and thought they owned the ? territories? Perhaps if they saw an option to play a random game, they felt those territories were random? By changing the new recruit symbol to something other than the ? symbol, we provide an opportunity to break any unforeseen confusion that the new recruit may have.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby TheForgivenOne on Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:12 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I'm not seeing any really viable alternatives for the ? here.

The ? is very clear and descriptive. It's a new player, nobody knows anything about him/her yet, we don't know about skill etc. so a question mark is appropriate. It stands out clearly from the other ranks, which is good because lots of new recruits deadbeat - thus it is good for players to spot them easily.


The ? is symbolically unclear and represents the random map, unknown territories in fog, and currently the new recruit. I wonder how many new recruits played a fooggy game and thought they owned the ? territories? Perhaps if they saw an option to play a random game, they felt those territories were random? By changing the new recruit symbol to something other than the ? symbol, we provide an opportunity to break any unforeseen confusion that the new recruit may have.


I truly doubt that any person would actually think that QH.

"Hey, my color is green, and i see green troops on this board. Nah, i think i most own all these question marks :D"

Then they start their turn, and realize, that they don't, and they own the green territories.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:17 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I'm not seeing any really viable alternatives for the ? here.

The ? is very clear and descriptive. It's a new player, nobody knows anything about him/her yet, we don't know about skill etc. so a question mark is appropriate. It stands out clearly from the other ranks, which is good because lots of new recruits deadbeat - thus it is good for players to spot them easily.


The ? is symbolically unclear and represents the random map, unknown territories in fog, and currently the new recruit. I wonder how many new recruits played a fooggy game and thought they owned the ? territories? Perhaps if they saw an option to play a random game, they felt those territories were random? By changing the new recruit symbol to something other than the ? symbol, we provide an opportunity to break any unforeseen confusion that the new recruit may have.


I truly doubt that any person would actually think that QH.

"Hey, my color is green, and i see green troops on this board. Nah, i think i most own all these question marks :D"

Then they start their turn, and realize, that they don't, and they own the green territories.


I've seen worse, comparable to people who don't know where to go to pick up their food when they order it at the drive up.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:51 pm

I wonder how many new recruits played a fooggy game and thought they owned the ? territories?


Oh for the love of... .¤%"#¤"#¤

How much do we need to dumb down the site? We already have extensive manuals and documentations for navigating the site and playing the game. We have a training program for new players, the SoC. We have all kinds of features to help new players into the game.

Seriously, the players that are most likely to stay are the ones who have the patience to learn things on their own, the players who like to be challenged and don't want everything spoon-fed to them. CC should primarily cater for that group. We already do plenty to help the new players, if we start thinking "maybe they are not intelligent enough to understand what this means" when people aren't even complaining about the thing then CC is going to get watered down into the same bland mush 99% of the internet already is...
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:47 pm

alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


I think you're right, the dog tags is the best one...
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:52 pm

Queen, you should make a new poll. It's obvious that dog tags are the most popular of the new options, so it should be ? vs. dog tags. I'm so tired of seeing that piece of shit "?". It HURTS MY EYES.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Woodruff on Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:48 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:
alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


I think you're right, the dog tags is the best one...


I'm telling you..."dog tags" is FAR less of a "definitive" newbie rank than almost any of the others. Dog tags are worn by those on a battlefield...everyone...meaning they're likely somewhat experience and potentially HIGHLY experienced. It just doesn't seem logical at all to me that dog tags would be a symbol for a newbie on a war-strategy rank structure.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:53 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


I think you're right, the dog tags is the best one...


I'm telling you..."dog tags" is FAR less of a "definitive" newbie rank than almost any of the others. Dog tags are worn by those on a battlefield...everyone...meaning they're likely somewhat experience and potentially HIGHLY experienced. It just doesn't seem logical at all to me that dog tags would be a symbol for a newbie on a war-strategy rank structure.


Think outside of the "I-am-former-military" box. Every non-military person thinks its the basic training and grunts that wear them.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Woodruff on Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:49 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
alex951 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Here are the dogtags at 20x20. Though, someone with good graphic skillz could probably design a better, more clear version.

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can you just shrink the dogtags without the empty white space?


I think you're right, the dog tags is the best one...


I'm telling you..."dog tags" is FAR less of a "definitive" newbie rank than almost any of the others. Dog tags are worn by those on a battlefield...everyone...meaning they're likely somewhat experience and potentially HIGHLY experienced. It just doesn't seem logical at all to me that dog tags would be a symbol for a newbie on a war-strategy rank structure.


Think outside of the "I-am-former-military" box.


You want me to think outside of reality? Why was it you didn't like the ? again...because it was too vague, right?

Queen_Herpes wrote:Every non-military person thinks its the basic training and grunts that wear them.


I suppose if they're thoroughly uneducated...I don't think that "every" fits there in any rational way, however.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:12 pm

WTF!!!!!!!!!!(translation western task force)
Why nobody call me for these competition!!!!
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby natty dread on Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:06 pm

qwert wrote:WTF!!!!!!!!!!(translation western task force)
Why nobody call me for these competition!!!!


This is not a competition, it's a suggestion. If the suggestion gets approved and a competition is held to design a new NR icon it will be announced via official channels (announcements forum, front page, twitter etc.)
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:57 pm

qwert wrote:WTF!!!!!!!!!!(translation western task force)
Why nobody call me for these competition!!!!


There is still time to enter the competition! Feel free to post one here!
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby natty dread on Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:26 pm

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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon (and contest!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:56 pm

qwert wrote:WTF!!!!!!!!!!(translation western task force)
Why nobody call me for these competition!!!!



What is your idea for the competition, qwert? I'm excited to see it!!!!
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:40 pm

waith one say "its not competition" other say "its competition"??
i maybe have idea, but if these pointles topic, then no worth to spend time in this topic.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Queen_Herpes on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:56 pm

qwert wrote:waith one say "its not competition" other say "its competition"??
i maybe have idea, but if these pointles topic, then no worth to spend time in this topic.


My suggestion...My contest!

Please enter a design!
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:05 pm

here you go , simple,but efective,case solve,move to next case.
If moderator are fast they can implemented these very fast,and from tomorow all new players will get these new emblem :geek:
no more red or blue >?< they will get hes gold or gray colours

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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Darwins_Bane on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:05 pm

to be fair, you should really add an option to keep the original question mark, even if it's just for posterity.
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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon

Postby Queen_Herpes on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:06 pm

Darwins_Bane wrote:to be fair, you should really add an option to keep the original question mark, even if it's just for posterity.


Yeah, I'm getting there...
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