Autotournaments: even-ish first turns in 1v1 "Best Of X"

[betiko]

make this for tournaments with several games, head to head challenges, clan wars, or whatever.
I'm just sick of starting second in 6/7 games in certain challenges/tournaments ect. there should be an option to determine a fair split of first turns for a list of games.

[spiesr]

MERGED: determine equal/equal-1 amount of games for players to start

[benga]

The only solution to this is mirror games, exact same drops just change the color, so in 1 game you are green and in the other red.

[betiko]

MERGED: determine equal/equal-1 amount of games for players to start

My suggestion is not about autotournaments, it s about any tournament, clan war, callout challenge between same players/teams.

There should be an option, when creating a serie of games, to link them together and spread evenly who gets to start

[Dukasaur]

MERGED: determine equal/equal-1 amount of games for players to start

My suggestion is not about autotournaments, it s about any tournament, clan war, callout challenge between same players/teams.

There should be an option, when creating a serie of games, to link them together and spread evenly who gets to start

Agreed.

[stahrgazer]

Right.

So how about fixing things so dices go evenly too? Haven't you been in games where you got all the good dice; and in other games where the opponent got all the good dice? Weren't any of those tournament games?

Oh. Wait. There are probably still some among us that believe that skill alone can compensate for rolling all 1s and 2s vs. the opponent's 5s and 6s

If it's random leave it random. Otherwise it smells too much like choosing the winners in advance (or a programming situation that could lead to that).

Besides. First turn doesn't guarantee a winner, and isn't necessarily an a huge advantage on some of the maps and settings.

[iAmCaffeine]

Could this not draw even more attention away from community-run tournaments, as people start to focus mainly on autotournaments to reduce the luck factor?

[D4 Damager]

Right.

So how about fixing things so dices go evenly too? Haven't you been in games where you got all the good dice; and in other games where the opponent got all the good dice? Weren't any of those tournament games?

Oh. Wait. There are probably still some among us that believe that skill alone can compensate for rolling all 1s and 2s vs. the opponent's 5s and 6s

If it's random leave it random. Otherwise it smells too much like choosing the winners in advance (or a programming situation that could lead to that).

Besides. First turn doesn't guarantee a winner, and isn't necessarily an a huge advantage on some of the maps and settings.

Are you seriously arguing that if we constrain the proportion of first turns then we should make the dice deterministic as well? Sorry but that's ludicrous. The proportion of first turns going to each player is not supposed to be a deciding factor in tournament outcomes whereas understanding and accommodating the random behaviour of the dice is a fundamental part of the strategy in any Risk variant.

[D4 Damager]

Could this not draw even more attention away from community-run tournaments, as people start to focus mainly on autotournaments to reduce the luck factor?

I'm not sure if I said this earlier in the thread but I'd be happy for this to be applied to all tournaments, not just autotournaments.

[iAmCaffeine]

Could this not draw even more attention away from community-run tournaments, as people start to focus mainly on autotournaments to reduce the luck factor?

I'm not sure if I said this earlier in the thread but I'd be happy for this to be applied to all tournaments, not just autotournaments.

But if this was the case the tournament organiser could potentially have to re-create games over and over.

[D4 Damager]

Could this not draw even more attention away from community-run tournaments, as people start to focus mainly on autotournaments to reduce the luck factor?

I'm not sure if I said this earlier in the thread but I'd be happy for this to be applied to all tournaments, not just autotournaments.

But if this was the case the tournament organiser could potentially have to re-create games over and over.

No, the idea would be for a tool/algorithm to exist to do it instead of TO's having to do it by hand.

[iAmCaffeine]

Could this not draw even more attention away from community-run tournaments, as people start to focus mainly on autotournaments to reduce the luck factor?

I'm not sure if I said this earlier in the thread but I'd be happy for this to be applied to all tournaments, not just autotournaments.

But if this was the case the tournament organiser could potentially have to re-create games over and over.

No, the idea would be for a tool/algorithm to exist to do it instead of TO's having to do it by hand.

In which case, presumably, there may as well be a tool/algorithm to create games for any TO, which seems rather unlikely.