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Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:23 am

Pay the money...

Most sites give you only a very temporary trial -- much more limited versions, time limits (sometimes hours, occasionally days). To do more, you pay $20-$30 and often only get access to one version of one game. Here you can play ad infinitum ... just only 4 games at a time.

A pretty good deal

Non-premiums CAN play private, just not speed games (other than occasional special rewards)

I think another issue, not mentioned yet, is that speed and private games can end up taking a lot of data space. "Freebie" players are much more likely to deadbeat and do other "no-no's" than those who pay. When they do, it is somewhat harder to crack down. A freebie loses nothing by being ousted and having to create a new profile. A paid member on the other hand ....
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby lozzini on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:37 am

i think the idea of a set amount of free speed games is a good idea as well as if you wernt sure about the site it is not neccessarily true you will remember about it the next day


PS. current memebrrs should get the 5 free turns if it for new players lol
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Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:37 pm

I am sure adding speed games to freebie accounts would make folks happier, but the real customers of this site are those who pay. Be happy you get as much as you do -- it far exceeds most other sites. Instead of complaining because it isn't ALL free.

Want more ... just pay the $25
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Every month non premium members should get 1 sp [Rejected]

Postby MonkeyCrazy12321 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:25 am

Every month non premium members should get 1 speed game.
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Postby lord voldemort on Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:56 am

how bout u just buy premium. or get a friend to buy u it
its $25 for a year...like 50 c a week
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:00 am

Your idea and argument might carry a little more weight if you had become a premium member yourself.

To have the benefits you have, and then ask for more, while contributing nothing to the resources required to keep the site going is, quite frankly, a bit rich.
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Postby insomniacdude on Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:15 am

I think that'd be a good idea. After a freemium player completes five games (I.E. after they get ranked) they get one free speed game per month. They shouldn't rollover.

It'd be a great way to cause more demand for the premium account without causing too much stress on the rest of the site or cheapening the value of premium.

Also, I agree with Fruitcake. This just looks like a plea from a free member who doesn't want to put up the $25 a year to play a speed game.
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Postby Twill on Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:02 pm

We have mulled over similar ideas many times and always come to one conclusion...

multi heaven.

If every freemie gets 1 free speed game a month, how many people would create 30 accounts to get a free speed game every day?

It's just not smart for us to do, dishonest players would kill the servers with huge load and ruin things for everyone.

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Postby MOBAJOBG on Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:00 pm

...perhaps, 1 speed game in every 3 or 4 months!?
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Postby cicero on Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:04 pm

Is "begging" a reason to lock a thread?
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby max is gr8 on Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:33 am

If they were given 1 free speed game I doubt it would make a difference
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby lancehoch on Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:37 am

lack does give away free speed games under certain circumstances, just three weeks ago freemiums were allowed to play unlimited speed games on the Halloween Hollows map.
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby max is gr8 on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:15 am

lance, has there been a noticeable increase in sales since then?

The answer to that is the answer to this
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby lancehoch on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:41 am

max, I do not know, nor do I know who would have that info other than lack.
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby n_p123 on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:59 am

i love the idea...though i agree that there should be a condition...like 2 speed games per month...but this idea ROCKS!!!
also,it will make the players who can affored to pay(which i cant :( ) wanna pay at CC to play unlimited speed games!
so its a win-win situation...also the premiums wont be offended coz they get a lot more than just 2 games per month.
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:04 pm

Whilst I understand the idea to charge for the premium services I could see a use in allowing all new members to play 1 or 2 speed games. Both to cut down on the "?" deadbeating that comes from not getting to make a move directly and as a marketing scheme. Don't see much need to hand them out on a monthly/yearly basis though.
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby gho on Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:29 pm

If you give a certain number of speed games to people when they first sign on how many multis would you get. I would be tempted to go through the hassel of creating a new account to play the free games. I think 1 speed game a month would be a good thing though. Im half tempted to get premium for the speed games (dont need the extra spaces as this site wastes enough of my time as it is) but dont know how well it would work, ive heard people complaining that some speed game settings never end up filling and thus never get played, which worries me. What if i pay the $25 to play speed games, but nobody will join my games?
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:34 pm

gho wrote:If you give a certain number of speed games to people when they first sign on how many multis would you get. I would be tempted to go through the hassel of creating a new account to play the free games. I think 1 speed game a month would be a good thing though. Im half tempted to get premium for the speed games (dont need the extra spaces as this site wastes enough of my time as it is) but dont know how well it would work, ive heard people complaining that some speed game settings never end up filling and thus never get played, which worries me. What if i pay the $25 to play speed games, but nobody will join my games?


You should probably create speed-games on peak-hours where lots of people are on.


As for the suggestion. I think it's a great idea. A lot of newbies do deadbeat after some time because it takes a long time to play. I am not sure I would've stuck around if it wasn't for the first few games I played with my friends from other forums. After that I decided to read the forums because I didn't have much to do.


And yeah, giving a certain number of speed-games at first sign up would probably lead to many multis. I mean, they won't bust you untill you've joined the games already and so you're free to end those games. Though I must say that most people don't create multis simply because they don't like being unfair or cheating.

Maybe one or 2 speed-games at sign-up, or a 1 or 2 speed-game a month limit would be a good thing as you said. People aren't likely to go through the hassle of creating another account for 2 speedgames. An account needs a new e-mail and you have to wait while they check and honestly why bother if you enjoy playing speed-games that much? Might as well pay up the money and get more speed-games.
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby n_p123 on Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:21 am

yup...overall i think 1/2 speed games per month for a freemium is a good idea.
note..its just a speed game...the freemium doesnt get all premium benifits...and this will be a good prodder for those who r uncertain wether they should pay or not...and also less '?' deadbeats..so the premiums still have better benifits over freemiums,the CC site gets more ppl willing to pay for premium and a lot lesser deadbeats,and the freemiums...welll lets just say that if it was possible they would grin their hearts out at this :lol:

thus,its a win-win for all and everyone will benifit from this idea...also there are many more other advantages both small and big,forseen and unforseen..
so go for it guys!!
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby owenshooter on Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:30 am

n_p123 wrote:thus,its a win-win for all and everyone will benifit from this idea...also there are many more other advantages both small and big,forseen and unforseen..
so go for it guys!!

yeah, mostly "win" to freemiums like yourself, and less "win" to paying members like myself... if you want free speed games, wait for a special occasion or pony up the dough... simple enough. i think it is a horrible idea. lack gives away far more to freemiums than any other site like this on the INTERNETS. if you want speed games too, get a board game, a timer, and a friend to come over to your house...-6cd
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Re: Speed Games - non premium

Postby JBlombier on Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:44 am

CC is great, because it is free for those who choose to play only 4 games at a time. I got the money, but don't want to spend it on a gaming site. You can call that cheap or whatever you like, but that won't change my mind. This is quite a stubborn guy talking ^^

But...

If you're able to buy a computer and an internet connection, I can hardly believe it's impossible to pay $25 a year. No reason to complain, I'd say.
I've played other games which were free with unlimited gameplay, but they took too much time from my other addictions (real-life-addictions are way more fun), so I quit them. It's like lack wanted to protect my other unhealthy habits, by only giving me four games. Thank you for that.

- A user who fully accepted and embraced the Freemium-rules.

PS. I've played Speed games when given the chance to, but it took too much time. I doubt I'd even use my free speed game if it was given to me monthly.
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Gift to freemiums

Postby Ramned on Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:05 pm

O:) O:) O:) O:) O:) O:)
In addition to the 4 game casual limit, I believe it would be awfully nice to let freemiums join 1 speed game each day. How's that sound? O:) O:) O:) O:) O:)



I saw that on another site so thought to mention it aqui
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Re: Gift to freemiums

Postby porkenbeans on Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:15 pm

Ramned wrote:O:) O:) O:) O:) O:) O:)
In addition to the 4 game casual limit, I believe it would be awfully nice to let freemiums join 1 speed game each day. How's that sound? O:) O:) O:) O:) O:)



I saw that on another site so thought to mention it aqui
Totally cool idea. =D>
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Re: Gift to freemiums

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:22 pm

We usually have quite a few frequent gifts to freemiums...and they have quite a lot of access as is (we have no Premium exclusive maps). I think freemiums are pretty well off, and don't need much more else. :)


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Re: Gift to freemiums

Postby gundiesalvo on Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:00 pm

Well, 1 speed game per day means they can actually start and end one game on a given day, plus, if a freemium joined 4 8 player sequential games it's gonna take A WHILE for them to join anything else, which for someone who just made it to the site may be annoying. Having that 1 speed game per day will allow them to get more interested, and I'm sure it'll get more people to stay and eventually buy premium.
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