First, and most important. This is my opinion, it's not wrong, it's you being ignorant and not understanding that.
Kotaro wrote:Strife wrote:Well, the thing with approval from the hunters is, if they're on and looking at the case why not just solve it right there? Why wait for it to be posted in. Seems like a waste.
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Because hunting someones IP down, looking through their gameplay, and then checking them out could take a long ass time?
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If it's a multi case, no, an IP check doesn't really take
that long, in my experience it's only a few minutes at most(Depends on the software). Looking through their gameplay and checking them out wouldn't be needed seeing as other players usually check them out and look for evidence as-well.
And lance, if it's made so other players besides the OP and mods can't post in it, you will either never get PM'd or your will have way too many to go through.
And then lance will inform them what PM abuse is, and what the punishments for that are.
Or, he can just not have to deal with it in the first place.
I honestly think the current is the best way, it can be improved, but it's the most logical in my opinion. Other players can continue to help out with cases, or even solve them(if it's not a real case i.e. "foe and rate").
Or users can spam, troll, and flame a thread so bad that the hunters have to spend time going through the thread to punish the damn trolls, instead of going through and solving the actual case, wasting their time and letting potential cheaters keep going longer.
Or you can stop doing all of those things, I have never seen you actually contribute to a thread, for one who points the finger. And that is the worst hypothetical scenario ever, I doubt that would ever actually happen, players always investigate the reporter and the reported, I hardly see the mods in pursuit of someone who has not been reported for being a multi(Except soundout, by sully).
Just make a punishment for multiple frivolous reports and massive amounts of spam, obviously flaming too. I have seen several cases in which the OP does not include any evidence and just says "too good for a newb! and look at his friends!!!" and they end up all being from different countries and taking turns at the same time(which may or may not have been presented by a player, usually is).
And I've seen though same reports, only half the time, they're right. Making a "frivolous report" can also be a completely correct report, and the person is actually a multi who knows how to use AOL and their proxy addresses (not hard in the least), but their gameplay is suspicious enough that the person thinks they're cheating. That won't stop 20 users from coming by and posting how wrong the guy is, based on no evidence of their own, and troll the OP of the thread.
By a frivolous report I meant nothing of that random fairy tale you told. A frivolous report is a false one, one that isn't true and is clearly not true. I'm not talking about suspicion and possibilities. Let me use a rather current example or two, who were indeed warned, I believe. Saxitoxin(Not a direct attack just using you as a current example), he/she made several frivolous claims against people he/she clearly had a grudge against and they were a waste of moderator time. colton24(Again, not an attack, sorry if it feels like it), he/she made a few clearly false claims because people were saying he is a multi, and he/she was, I believe warned not to do that, and he/she has stopped. I'm not talking about people seeing suspicion and being wrong, I'm talking about complete falsehoods.
Changing the whole way the C&A forums works would completely ruin it.
Not really, it would actually improve it, disallowing spam while still allowing reports to be made to the higher ups.
No. Just no, that is all false. Spam will always exist with or without C&A. see, I can play that way too.
If it's changed to "approval" and for some reason, as soon as it's presented it's not checked, and posted in the new C&A what would be the difference? And if the current is such a problem, just delete the forum and leave e-tix, because that's all the other option really is.
Yes, move the entire forum to where only half the users know where it is. Much more helpful.
No, remove the forum and leave e-tix. Human's are rather resourceful, we're not as dumb as you think. I'm sure people will figure it out, they find C&A alright. And if it's really such a problem, mass automated PM from admin and auto-generated PM to new players pointing them where to report it. You seem set on this idea to change, for some odd reason, and you have yet to back up anything you have said with undeniable evidence. All you have done is say "NOEZ! I need less spamz0rz I need to do it only!" Point out your reasoning, you just made up some scenario that has never happened and possibly admitted to being a multi(?).
Edit: Maybe for, excessive C&A abuse just ban them from that forum. So, if they hi-jack the thread or over-spam or flame, just kick them from C&A.
... Surprising, I can still find something terrible in your post, even after not being shocked by the rest of it. Terrible.
... Not surprising, more irrelevant drivel from your post. Even after not being impressed by the rest of your "reasoning". Horrible.