[GO] Ninja Spoils/Espionage Spoils

[00iCon]

Looks like a clear winner!
Now onto the extra armies disussion. I say 3 red spoils = 0 extra troops
3 green = 2 extra troops
3 blue = 4 extra troops
RGB = 6 extra troops
This is on top of any bonus troops to be deployed, on any territory including Ninja'd territories.
If you hand in on your own territory, you get 3 on that territory, no matter if it was 1 or 100 before.
Anyone with me?

[edwinissweet]

idk. i think its getting way to complicated

[Queen_Herpes]

How about if they were called "highjack" spoils?

[Army of GOD]

What happened to this suggestion?

I always thought it'd be like Nuclear spoils, but instead of the territs becoming neutral, they became your color (as 1s).

[edwinissweet]

that was the idea, but it got too complicated and interest died

[Army of GOD]

that was the idea, but it got too complicated and interest died

Why'd get it get "complicated"? The idea is so basically simple. What's with this poll and other stuff?

[edwinissweet]

Well, people disagreed on what they wanted out of it. To me the simple idea would be to simply get the territory and the armies on it as your own with no alteration if you own the place. But thats just what i me. Too many people want something different and it never really got past the name.

[00iCon]

It doesn't bug me too much if it's not the way I saw it. The concept itself is worth implementing.

[greenoaks]

Revolution Spoils


Concise description:

• When a set is cashed the territories on those cards that you don't control revolt

Specifics/Details:

• Cashing a spoil gives you that territory with whatever troops were on it
  or
• Cashing a spoil gives you that territory with half of whatever troops were on it, rounded down, minimum of 1

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• This will alter the way troops are deployed in games. It has similarities with Nuclear in that you are concerned you could lose the troops if an opponent cashes but with this game type the troops don't disappear, they can be used against you.

[IcePack]

Sounds fun

[jammyjames]

I take it this would apply for only one turn? And this means the region could not be attacked for that turn?

[DoomYoshi]

It does sound fun, but potentially game unbalancing. I will run it through my game group; report back after Thursday.

[chapcrap]

What if you already own the territory?

[DoomYoshi]

What if you already own the territory?

No effect, similar to if you didn't in regular.

[nagerous]

Revolution Spoils


Concise description:

• When a set is cashed the territories on those cards that you don't control revolt

Specifics/Details:

• Cashing a spoil gives you that territory with whatever troops were on it
  or
• Cashing a spoil gives you that territory with half of whatever troops were on it, rounded down, minimum of 1

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• This will alter the way troops are deployed in games. It has similarities with Nuclear in that you are concerned you could lose the troops if an opponent cashes but with this game type the troops don't disappear, they can be used against you.

How would this work on maps with certain WCs, like with the AOR series and the Sanctuary? If you were lucky enough to cash in that card then you would then hold the sanctuary and automatically win the game (providing you maintain it for the next turn). That seems rather game altering and unfair.

[agentcom]

True that there are some gameplay imbalances caused, but that's what spoils do in general. In escalating games, the whole point of the cards is that they cause "imbalanced" gameplay allowing someone to win. Hell, the whole reason we have dice is to create "imbalanced" gameplay. Your point about AoR is well taken, but since it is such a lartge map, the odds of getting that card are reduced and this would be an uncommon outcome. And it is only a matter of degree different from when you happen to get just the right nuke card (e.g. opponent's base in some maps or maybe the south pole card in antarctica).

I like this idea. It's just another spoils option that would have differing effects on how people play the game.

[JeopardyTempest]

Concise description:
[*]The most chaos causing spoils type yet.

Specific\Details
[*]Up the ante on nuclear spoils and make the game more unpredictable by having it such that spoils don't just remove the armies from a territory, but give you control of it (along with all the armies thereon). Since it would then be your turn, you might really see games flip around suddenly, much more often than the rare times where nuclear is a game changer. It would maximize any strategies in use for nuclear... imagine how great devastating it would be to lure an opponent into moving his a stack to somewhere you held the card for. It'd offer you ways to get back into areas you thought you had lost.
If the idea isn't groundbreaking enough, other twists could help. Perhaps you lose any of your own territories you play. Perhaps when you play a set, it randomly assigns the three territories out to three different colors.
One thing the idea would occasionally do is offer a way for teammates to acquire their partner's territories without wasting armies. Perhaps in such games, you could even acquire 2 cards per turn to accentuate this and further fuel the chaos.
Would also be an interesting 4th option to the great EFN option being suggested (http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=182701 ).

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
[*]Open up the game board a lot more.


Just a thought. Did a search but didn't find anything similar, but $10 says some of the ideas have been posed before?

[greenoaks]

Revolution Spoils

go there and show some love

[macbone]

It sounds fun (and chaotic!)

[greenoaks]

It sounds fun (and chaotic!)

i'm glad you like it.

i felt this setting would compliment Nuclear. you could lose your large stacks with either setting. 1 leaves a gaping hole for the enemy to advance through and with this the troops advancing have just mutinied against you. Mutiny Spoils would also be a good (maybe better) name. or Rebellion Spoils, any thoughts?

whereas Flat & Escalating are more about adding troops to your game.

i feel the tactics required would have similarities to Nuclear because you have to anticipate not having that front defensive line keeping the other player at bay. yet put a totally new spin to where the game could go.

[macbone]

And it kinda replicates what empires have to worry about, provinces back home growing in unrest and revolting. Like nuclear, it would be dangerous to leave stacks on terts unless you own that tert, making that tert safe from revolution. Cool!

[maxfaraday]

I support this suggestion. Could be fun.

[koontz1973]

I can see some fun things with this. If you cash and their is only a one, you can still deploy on it, if not, you get to see territs in a fog game. Grabbing a stack would be fun. Small games with lots of players, cards can be handed out twice so stacks on cards owned will not be safe. Like escalating which compliments flat rate, this compliments nukes.

[chapcrap]

MERGED 'Takeover Spoils' with this thread. Same suggestion.

[plurple]

Concise description:
a set of spoils that when cashed you take over any troops on the territories cashed.

Specifics/Details:
when you cash a set of either 3 red, 3 green, 3 blue or multi-coloured spoils for each of the territories that you have just cashed you would take over any troops that were on it beforehand be they an opponents or neutral. they would subsequently become yours to control and wreck havoc with.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
it would benefit the site as it would give another new and interesting way to play the game and might help stop stale mates as people would be les inclined to stack in one place unless they owned that spoil.