It's been another busy fortnight around here, i know a lot of you have been posting your thoughts about the newsletter in the General Discussion thread, and believe me when i say we've been listening.
There is nothing i would like more than to have the community happy with what the newsletter offers. We are looking into getting a dedicated interviewer, who can take interviews to a whole new level, we are just awaiting his reply. As a result of this and your other responses, this issue's interview with Optimus Prime will be the last Moderator interview for a little while.
Other changes include a shuffle around in reporters. thenobodies80 has resigned from the tournament section of the newsletter and will now be working with the.killing.44 to pump out some awesome Foundry articles.
As a result, Night Strike has agreed to take over the tournament section and give that part a bit of a revamp All of these changes will become effective as of next issue.
We are also looking to hire some other people to be freerange writers. Who don't hold back and tell it how it really is. So if that sounds like you, feel free to apply to samuelc812.
Hope you enjoy this short edition of the newsletter
This section helps you the member gain a little more understanding about Team CC and parts of the site that you may be unclear with. Note: The views expressed in the article are solely those of the writer and do not necessarily express the views of the other moderators or administrators.
a.sub wrote:what do you feel is the best stance on foe lists? should there be limitations? what constitutes abuse? can there even be abuse? should there be a punishment if so? etc.
I think these questions should be answered in two different ways: as a player and as a moderator.
For players, I think the foe list may be under-used when it comes to forum and game complaints. I would like to see more players buck up and take matters into their own hands when someone makes a comment they don't like. The foe list and PM permissions were built into the phpbb software for members to take care of themselves. There would be far fewer complaints to and about the moderators if people would utilize the foe list. If you can't stand a few curse words, or even some rude comments, you should be putting people on your foe list before contacting a moderator.
In the gaming aspect, I think that people who put players on their foe list just because they can't beat them or some similar reason is pretty low. It could be considered abusive, but I don't think there should be a rule against it (mainly because it would be impossible to enforce). People with a bunch of foes tend to say more about themselves than the people they're foeing.
For moderators, I think the foe list should only be used in extreme cases. This could be people who are very rude in game chats or play very poorly (lots of suiciding, throwing games, etc.), or it could be people or are being just plain annoying on the forums or in PMs. All the moderators are volunteers, so I think they should reserve the right to ignore members who are being annoying. It does make it harder to moderate though because the posts are hidden without clicking on them.
I will answer more questions next issue. If you would like to submit a question, please post them in the Ask A Mod thread.
A new helpful update for tournament organizers. Now is possible to "reserve" a spot for a player in a game! Tournament organizers have access to game invitations to their tournament games via the game finder. Now they can control more precisely who goes in which game and even on which team, with no more problems with wrong games joined or wrong passwords. If you want more informations about Game Invitations go here
Tournament Newsletter, a new issue released. (here)
Interview with Steelhorse - submit your questions (here)
EDITOR'S NOTE If you have some interesting ideas or suggestions about, please contact me with a PM. Thank you Thenobodies80
Clan History was made this week as the 1st Clan League declared its winner, The Horsemen of the Apocalypse (THOTA). A number of clans led the league early on, however, it was the Clan Wars undefeated clan that outlasted all other clans involved.
The clan league is the largest publicly known private tournament comprising of 1350 games, and would have not been possible without the support of the clan leaders involved and all of the hard work by all of the clan league contacts. A number of players stepped up and I know many players have a new appreciation for what clans do on this site, and what it takes to manage and run an event like this. It certainly made my job of stats boy and scheduler so much easier. Thank you all very much.
So after making clan history, what next? Well, the league will now move on to Season 2 in early September (and better follow the school year for those still in school). The settings and setup discussion currently resides in the Clan Leaders Association forum, and then will move on to the public forums, for comments in about a week. It appears that the league will almost double in size in terms of clans, along with adding additional features like Triples, Quads, Playoffs, Promotions & Relegations and the naming of All-Star Teams. Some exciting things in the works and only looks to get better.
Q: Do you ever rust? If not, how do you prevent the process of oxidation?
A: Last time I checked I've never had any trouble with rust. You see, I'm made up of this super-dense, ultra-strong Cybertronian ore that can withstand anything that the puny Earth elements can throw at it. For that matter I never had any problems with rust (or anything similar) back on Cybertron either. Must be the quality workmanship inherent in my very nature.
Q: There are rumors floating around that you first put on the Optimus Prime helmet you made after a horrible boat accident and have never taken if off since...any truth to these?
A: Johnimus Cochranium, my personal lawbot on retainer, has told me not to comment on that particular incident to prevent further tarnishing of my name.
Q: Do you actually sleep in full Optimus Prime costume attire?
A: No, a good pair of pajama pants and a standard issue t-shirt work well enough for me. Although if you want to know a secret there may on occasion be large stuffed animals in the bed with me. I have a large green frog my wife gave me for our first Valentine's Day after we got married, a large hippo from IKEA that was purchased on a whim, and a large Nemo from the local Disney store. Rarely do all three join me at once, but they do take turns dependent upon my mood that day.
Q: Do you speak transformer?
A: I can speak just about anything I want. That's the glory of having an advanced cybernetic brain capable of 3 million times the computing speed of anything on Earth.
Q: After being a MOD for CC, do you ever get depressed as the rest of your life just seems anti-climatic?
A: Actually, I find life on CC as a moderator, and subsequently as an admin to be much more anti-climatic than my real life. In real life I'm finishing up a degree at Brigham Young University, have been married for three years this coming August, have a 7 month old boy running rampant in my home, and I ride a scooter every day. CC has nothing on my real life.
Q: Do you like milk?
A: Love it, drink it every day. My mother used to buy 3 gallons of milk each week when I was growing up. Two for me, one for the rest of the family. My usual is 2%, but sometimes I spoil myself and grab a gallon of the whole milk as a treat.
Q: You have been a regular member, a moderator, and an admin. How have your views of the site changed throughout each position? Which position do you prefer, and why?
A: It has been an interesting road for me on the site over the past 2 years or so. As a player I was content to simply play some games and run some tournaments. I was ignorant to the processes behind the scenes and so large gaps between updates didn't bother me in the slightest, I was thrilled when and if we got new features or updates to the site.
As a moderator things changed a little bit. The enjoyment of the game subsided a bit and I found new enjoyment as a Tournament Director and helping to really beef up the processes and policies within that particular department. I really liked that job, and maybe I'll return to it someday down the line, who knows. However, knowing the processes behind the scenes made me somewhat impatient as far as updates and such were concerned because the work I was doing needed coding attention.
Finally as an admin I have a much more enlightened view of what it takes to run this website behind the scenes and it certainly opens my eyes sometimes. I have the privilege of meeting with the admin team on a weekly basis to discuss issues in the community, upcoming site improvements, etc, and the amount of work that has to go into keeping things running is astounding. Coupled with my knowledge of web programming in general I now have no trouble waiting for updates as I know what actually has to happen to get things done on a site that has so many active users.
Overall, I'd have to say that as a strategy game enthusiast my favorite position was definitely that of the ignorant user who simply enjoys the game and community, but as my current position pays my bills and supports my family I'd have to say it is my favorite at the moment.
Q: What made you decide to come out of retirement to be an admin?
A: At the time I was looking for new work. My son had been born a couple months previously and I had started looking for work that would pay me a better wage than the job I currently had. As a matter of fact, I only found out about the open admin position because I was having a casual chat with Twill over MSN one evening and he mentioned that I should send lackattack an email if I was interested. Figured it was worth a shot, and look what that got me.
Q: When putting together your team, do you think it is best for the site to have many moderators who specialize in specific areas, or a few moderators who take care of things on a more holistic basis?
A: My opinion on the matter swings back and forth on what seems to be a daily basis. On one hand I would love to have a group of 4 or 5 global moderators who had the fortitude and dedication to watch over the forums consistency and fairly, but finding people who fit the bill and are willing to take on the responsibility of dealing with the riff-raff can easily be qualified as near to impossible.
On the other hand there are significant benefits to the idea of having little to no global moderators and having small groups that police certain areas alone, leaving the global activities to the folks who get paid to be hated, the red named individuals such as myself.
Overall I think we will always have a bit of a mix as the ebbs and flows of volunteer moderators make it difficult to stick to just one approach.
Q: Who wins the debates: the alpha monkey or the last prime?
A: Presuming you are talking about AndyDufresne as the alpha-monkey, he basically wins all the time. I don't really bother trying to sway him from his opinion all that much since he's been doing the admin thing far longer than I have; unless he does something dumb, which he really never does, so...
Q: How many days did you camp out to see the latest Tranformers movie?
A: No camping out for me, at 25 years old I'm far beyond those sorts of activities nowadays. I bought my premiere show tickets about two weeks in advance and went to the theater about 90 minutes before the show started. Wound up with decent, if not great seats, and enjoyed the movie thoroughly. Even went back a few days later for a second viewing and caught several things I had missed the first time through.
Q: What would you do if you met Michael Bay?
A: I think the one thing I would do is tell him that I admire his willingness to stick to his guns in making movies that are simply for entertainment. I get tired of listening to everyone think that each movie needs to have some philosophical or deeper meaning. Bay likes to blow things up and he does it better than anyone else in the business and refuses to walk away from making movies the way he wants to. I admire that and would like to let him know.
Q: What are some of your real life habits?
A: I like to spend time reading for one. I'm a big science fiction and fantasy buff, and love the work by Brandon Sanderson, especially his "Mistborn" trilogy. I recommend it to everyone. I have also discovered a liking for casual World of Warcraft gaming over the past couple of months. Nothing to addicting just an hour or two a couple times a week. My character is a level 31 dwarf warrior named Tierk if anyone is interested.
By the time I get done with work each day I usual settle down to spend a few hours with my son so my wife can have a break from watching him all day. He's just turned 7 months old and can crawl like he's been doing it for years, and is not walking along furniture and trying to move from one piece to another. Keeping him from hurting himself is a full-time job it seems as he has absolutely no fear.
Other than those things I'm a really big movie buff and enjoy going to the theater with my wife any chance I can get, we even sometimes take Jack with us if we are going to see a movie without too much in the way of explosions and loud noises.
Q: Why did you ever retire?
A: When I retired from TeamCC I honestly thought that was the end of it for me with anything beyond being a regular player. I had a newborn son, classes to attend, and a lot of other stuff on my plate in real life and needed to free up some time. My original plan had been to retire, let my games get down to 5 or 6 while I finished up my tournaments that were active and then take an extended break for a month or two. Turns out that wasn't in the cards for me.
Q: You are one of the most well known people on the site, For the most part you're very well respected but you also have some clear detractors. Like most of us you're human and have traits that assist and traits that detract from you in your mission's as one of the site's admin. Thus my question for you would be, what is your most important trait in making you a successful admin and which of your traits do you have to reign in to prevent yourself from getting off message?
A: I'm not sure I can peg down exactly which trait makes for a successful admin, but one that has helped has been an ability to adjust on the fly. Many days I'll sit down to do some work behind the scenes and get about 10 minutes in when something crops up in the forums, or some members of the team need some questions answered. I'll get to the end of my shift having done everything except what I originally planned to do. If you can't disconnect and do things in small pieces at random you'd have a pretty tough time getting anything done at all with this position.
The trait I have to reign in the most is a complete intolerance for stupidity or idiocy. I'm a firm believer in common sense, and there is a sizable portion of our community that either lacks it or turns it off on a regular basis. I have to remember that regardless of what is happening I have to take a professional approach, despite my personal feelings on the matter. I still don't have it perfected, and will readily admit that, but I'm getting a bit better at it as time goes on.
Q: OP, you clearly have a devoted group of brown-nosers here on this site. How do you keep from letting all of the ass-kissing from going to your head?
A: I have a devoted group of brown-nosers? Hell, you could have fooled me. Even some members of my former clan dislike the way I do things half the time. I'm not sure I can remember the last time someone was genuinely pleased with something I've done as an admin. If there is a secret "Optimus Prime Appreciation Club" out there, someone let me know because they aren't doing a very good job to this point.
Q: OP, do you think the use of the term "moderator" (being derived from the word "moderate") is more, or less, ironic than Hitler supporting vegetarianism because he believed it to be spiritually regenerative?
A: I think it is no more ironic than whoever asked the question thinking they are witty or intelligent. Everyone in this community thinks that they have the perfect solution to how it should be run, or how the moderators should act, the problem is that nobody seems to understand that we can't please everyone. I'm not really concerned by someone thinking that our team members being called "moderators" is ironic. Take that for what you will.
Q: Where did you meet that fantastic wife?
A:My wife is rather fantastic isn't she? I am one lucky man.
Good story here. During the fall semester of 2005 it was my first semester back at BYU following my LDS mission and I was in a required Biology 100 class (worst class on campus, easily). It featured a 900 student lecture twice a week and a 20 student lab once a week. My wife Holly, known as Luxurious here on the site, sat behind me in that lab every single week the entire semester but we never spoke until the last day of class when we had to give these group poster presentations that we'd been working on the entire semester.
As it happens, my poster station was located next to her group's and we were doing our thing at the same time. In the break between the presentations we started talking and I had resolved to ask her to dinner by the end of the time slot. However, I realized I didn't know her name and never got around to asking. I went home kicking myself (because my wife is beautiful) for screwing it all up and tried to find a way to figure out who she was.
To make a long story short, I had exhausted all of my options when she miraculously sent me an email, rescuing me from my stupidity. It was the week of finals when we went on our first date, a Monday I do believe, and then went on dates 4 of the next 5 days, as well as met up at the airport the morning we were heading home for the winter break.
We spoke daily over the break, became and official couple the day we both got back, were engaged on March 8, 2006, and married on August 4, 2006. It will be three wonderful years in a couple of weeks.
Q: OP, when the members of a hegemony refuse to answer legitimate interview questions put to them, do you call that agenda setting, astroturfing, or just plain ole moderation?
A: I call it ignoring moronic questions intended directly to bait or entice in a manner that will cause nothing but increased drama and back-handed insults, regardless of the so-called "innocence" the members posing the question claim. How's that for blunt and straight to the point?
Q: In addition to your Admin duties, how much time do you spend per day actually playing games? And how many active games do you have on average?
A: Lately I haven't spent any time playing games. I haven't had an active game since the first of the month while I dealt with some other issues that were occupying my time. Prior to that though I was keeping my game load right around 10-12 games, and spending about 30 minutes a day taking turns. I'll probably start up a few games here in the next couple days now that things have settled down for me again. As an admin its tough to keep 30, 40, or 50 games going because if you wind up needing a babysitter you don't have any options due to the access you have on the site.
Q: What about Megan Fox? Do you think to leave her to the kid?
A: Since human flesh and robot organs aren't all that compatible it is a fate I unfortunately must leave her to, but if I were not a robot... Good heavens she is gorgeous though, isn't she? In case anyone is wondering my wife has given me a free pass to be in love with Megan Fox if I want.
Q: If you had to fire a CC moderator, who would it be? And no answer along the lines of "They all do an excellent job, so I can't choose". Actually choose! Make it lol
A: I'm fairly certain that if you made me choose as a matter of life and death that The Fuzzy Pengui would be on his way out the door. I mean, who has ever actually seen a fuzzy penguin, and if you were a fuzzy penguin would you really flaunt it so much? Seems like penguins should be sleek in my opinion. Honestly. Fuzz all over the TeamCC forums, getting into my servos and cyber-pathways. I've had to pay at least twice as much lately to keep myself clean because he can't manage to discover a lint-roller. The things are only 79 cents at Walmart, but no, I have to make regular visits to the ladybots over in Amstertron to keep my stress level under control just enough to deal with him.
Q: Nintendo, X-Box or Playstation?
A: I've never been much of a console gamer, but as a kid growing up we had a Super Nintendo, and my wife and I now have a Playstation 2 for the express purpose of the Guitar Hero games. I think we also still have an old Gamecube lying around somewhere to break out for the occasional Mario Kart: Double Dash showdowns, but nobody has ever beaten me on that game, so nobody ever really wants to play anymore.
Q: Who is your favorite Team CC Member and why? (Don't say yourself or admin)
A: I'll go with Night Strike on this one. For a number of reasons, but most of which is that we were good friends far before he was a Tournament Director due to our activities as members of the G1 clan. We speak regularly on MSN, and seem to get along rather well. I see it as a testament to our friendship that he was willing to do me the favor of stepping down from global moderator and return to Tournament Director at my personal request. I needed someone I could count on in that department and most after having the power of global moderator would simply not be willing to give it up willingly. We share similar interests in a variety of things and I think in the future when we've both moved on from CC we'll still stay in touch.
Q: If you decided to commit suicide, what would be your method of choice?
A: I'd go with hiring a hit-man and giving him explicit instructions to wait 3 months, but then off me at any time of his choosing in any manner of his choosing so long as the death was immediate. You know, something along the lines of my car exploding on ignition, an elevator wire snapping 50 stories above ground, or a bullet to the head while I take a shower or something. That way I wouldn't have the chance to chicken out or think about it too much.
Q: Have you ever told, and laughed at, a dead baby joke?
A: Nope, and likely never will. Your perspective changes drastically when you have a child of your own you take care of on a daily basis.
Q: What did you do last Saturday?
A: Let's see here, last Saturday my wife and I took our son Jack on his first adventure to the Hogle Zoo up in Salt Lake City. We wanted to wait until he was old enough to at least be interested in some of the stuff he could see. His favorites were the monkeys, the gibbons in particular, and the rhinoceros exhibit. A lot of the animals were sleeping because it was a rather warm day, but we did get to watch an elephant tear apart part of its enclosure, and the resulting frantic frenzy by the zoo workers attempting to get it to stop.
I think I may also have played a little World of Warcraft later in the evening after some delicious lasagna for dinner that my wife prepared.
Q: What is your real job?
A: Well, my real job is actually this one as Operations Manager of Conquer Club. I work here 20 hours a week and it is my main source of income. I also have a job on BYU campus as a department secretary for the English Composition Department and during some semesters I work as a teaching assistant to one of the web programming professors.
Ideally I would find full-time work doing something, but as a married student with a year left of school doing so is often difficult. Web programming is my career of choice and I work hard to keep developing those skills so I can find work in the field when I graduate.
Q: What kind of music do you listen to?
A: If you had a glimpse into my iTunes library (Mac lover here), you would see a rather wide-ranging collection of songs. I range everywhere from Prince to Alabama, Hilary Duff to Britney Spears, and everything in between. Truth be told I have a couple of Backstreet Boys albums and a few albums by a french hottie named Jenifer, along with a smattering of other tastes and genres. I've even got a few songs from the immortal Michael Jackson mixed in as well. Anyone remember Creed? I've got some of their stuff as well. Kenny Chesney, Tim McGraw, and some other country artists make regular appearances too. Country Grammar anyone? I listened to that just the other day and smiled.
Mainly I find myself following the song and not the artist more than anything. There are a lot of places where I only have one song from a particular artist rather than entire albums and I tend to download a handful of new songs a month, generally whatever is playing on the radio that I happen across and take a liking to.
My two most recent downloads were the new score for Revenge of the Fallen (for while I'm working on code, it's good concentrating music), and the new album by Daughtry (my favorite American Idol contestant, ever).
Q: What is your favorite map?
A: USA always has been my favorite map, and I don't know if that will ever be supplanted. I'm a very big fan of every map created by RjBeals for many reasons, not the least of which is his graphical skill, but USA will always be my love. Besides, it is the only map I've ever really experienced true consistent success on.
Q: How much time per week do you spend as a moderator here, and not a player?
A: I work a 20 hour week as a member of the admin team. Sometimes the work takes more than 20 hours so I spend a little more getting it done, but I try to keep it right at about 20 if possible.
Q: How does your choice of religious faith play into your role as an administrator of this website?
A: To put it simply, it doesn't. At least not as far as I can tell, but I suppose anyone could say I have a biased opinion on the matter. It isn't a secret on the site that I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly known as the Mormons), and that I'm a rather active member of my faith.
However, just because I don't agree with the use of drugs, alcohol, pre-marital sex, excessive profane language, etc, etc, etc, doesn't mean I push my beliefs on others. I can confidently say that I've never made an administrative decision or moderator decision that was driven by someone attacking my faith or beliefs.
I'm one of those folks who holds strongly to personal choice. You might be Catholic or Baptist, good for you, I hope you have what you need from your faith. I don't necessarily agree with your faith's teachings or ideas, but if that is what works for you, awesome. I believe in my faith and as I like to tell people, we'll see who was right when we get to the other side.
Q: How did you feel about getting your ass beat in that last movie?
A: I may have gotten my ass beat at once point, but I think I laid out the biggest ass beating in the end, don't you think? Megatron and Fallen have nothing on me, nothing.
Q: Are you a country person or a city person?
A: Definitely a country person, much like my father. I spent my high school years in Bartlesville, Oklahoma and loved it there. The city was about 30,000 strong while I lived there and you could get outside the city limits within 10 minutes of driving in any direction and then not run into another town or city for at least 50 miles. Life was a lot more peaceful then, not at all like living in Utah, which I hope to escape at the earliest possible convenience.
Q: Why do you think the gazelle tries to escape from the lion's claws?
A: You know, I haven't the slightest clue to be honest. Not the slightest clue.
Q: If you were trapped on an island, and you could only bring 1 Kotaro, which Kotaro would you Kotaro to Kotaro?
A: I'd lock Kotaro in a box and throw him into the remnants of my last acid bath.
Q: Thank you for your time Optimus
A: Anytime, anytime.
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AgentSmith88 wrote:Hey, at least they posed all the questions asked in the forum.
Yeah, that's at least an improvement. But I was kind of disappointed that they didn't talk about the recent bans and things that have the forums in turmoil.
AgentSmith88 wrote:Hey, at least they posed all the questions asked in the forum.
Yeah, that's at least an improvement. But I was kind of disappointed that they didn't talk about the recent bans and things that have the forums in turmoil.
2 things:
1. If you want someone to mainly talk about what happened in the forums, submit an article. Fruitcake resigned from this very post BECAUSE of what happened in the forums. So please don't say "they don't have xxx article" while you can submit something for that very thing yourself.
2. One of those bans you're referring to was t-o-m's, correct? The same one that happened 1 or 2 days before publishing?
AgentSmith88 wrote:Hey, at least they posed all the questions asked in the forum.
Yeah, that's at least an improvement. But I was kind of disappointed that they didn't talk about the recent bans and things that have the forums in turmoil.
2 things:
1. If you want someone to mainly talk about what happened in the forums, submit an article. Fruitcake resigned from this very post BECAUSE of what happened in the forums. So please don't say "they don't have xxx article" while you can submit something for that very thing yourself.
2. One of those bans you're referring to was t-o-m's, correct? The same one that happened 1 or 2 days before publishing?
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Well I know I don't have the time to write an article, but it would be nice to have someone else write a general "what they think of cc" thing. And yes I guess it's hard to write a whole article in two days.
wcaclimbing wrote:Thats the best interview I've read on here. Nice work, OP.
and that is the problem in a nutshell... this response has so many problems with it on so many levels, and i am sure the irony of it escapes the poster... sigh... i believe many people lost interest when "real" questions weren't posed or answered. OP could have easily been asked about the current climate within the forums, as the banning of DM was very fresh at the time the questions were posed. it would have been a great subject to spend real time on. anyway, samuel has stated that the softball interviews are going to change with the next interview. so, hopefully the next one will be a bit more "substantial" and not so much fluff... looking forward to moving forward, good luck!!-0
Thorthoth,"Cloaking one's C&A fetish with moral authority and righteous indignation makes it ever so much more erotically thrilling"
owenshooter wrote:OP could have easily been asked about the current climate within the forums, as the banning of DM was very fresh at the time the questions were posed. it would have been a great subject to spend real time on.
You are assuming that people are interested in the DM issue. As far as I can see in the forums, it's only a very small group of people that are....
owenshooter wrote:OP could have easily been asked about the current climate within the forums, as the banning of DM was very fresh at the time the questions were posed. it would have been a great subject to spend real time on.
You are assuming that people are interested in the DM issue. As far as I can see in the forums, it's only a very small group of people that are....
Lx
yeah, hence the impending rule change being discussed in suggestions with andy... way to stay on top of things... the DM issue was just the starting point in a much larger discussion concerning a rule change for perma-bans/bans and the escalating punishment scale. so, if an admin is in the process of making a major overhaul of a rule that was soundly denounced in the forums by the community, i think it is more than a few people. furthermore, t-o-m had a site ban reversed last week, too... the community has a voice and is listened to. the DM issue was a very valid topic that was avoided... hey, let me go read some more lame transformer jokes that pose as questions...-0
Thorthoth,"Cloaking one's C&A fetish with moral authority and righteous indignation makes it ever so much more erotically thrilling"
owenshooter wrote:OP could have easily been asked about the current climate within the forums, as the banning of DM was very fresh at the time the questions were posed. it would have been a great subject to spend real time on.
You are assuming that people are interested in the DM issue. As far as I can see in the forums, it's only a very small group of people that are....
Lx
yeah, hence the impending rule change being discussed in suggestions with andy... way to stay on top of things... the DM issue was just the starting point in a much larger discussion concerning a rule change for perma-bans/bans and the escalating punishment scale. so, if an admin is in the process of making a major overhaul of a rule that was soundly denounced in the forums by the community, i think it is more than a few people. furthermore, t-o-m had a site ban reversed last week, too... the community has a voice and is listened to. the DM issue was a very valid topic that was avoided... hey, let me go read some more lame transformer jokes that pose as questions...-0
You can be as condescending as you like mate.
And you can call a small group of people making a lot of noise "the community" too. You're entitled to your opinion.
Lindax wrote:And you can call a small group of people making a lot of noise "the community" too. You're entitled to your opinion.
less than 2-3% of all CC'ers visit the forums regulary... it is a small group of people, and we are the community. notice how much action this newsletter receives? far less than most threads in the GD and Off Topics? why? they haven't engaged the community.-0
Thorthoth,"Cloaking one's C&A fetish with moral authority and righteous indignation makes it ever so much more erotically thrilling"
All of these changes will become effective as of next issue. 
