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EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:58 pm

CONTACTS

EMP : Denise, lord voldemort
TSM : skillful, kratos644

THE RULES

- Challenge will be 60 games divided into three sets.
- First set (to start around Jan. 15th): 8 dubs 6 trips 6 quads (split equally)
- Second set: 8 dubs 6 trips 6 quads (split equally)
- Third set: 6 dubs 7trips 7quads (the extra trip to be chosen by EMPIRE. The extra quad to be chosen by the Monkis).
- This makes a total of 22-19-19

- No freestyle, no manual deployment, no nukes, no speed, no beta.
- Maps may be used once per game type per clan.

- There will be a maximum allowable 20 slots per player for the entire challenge. Mistakes will result in a remake of the last game joined.

- Tie breaker will consist of 7 games: 2 doubles, 2 trips, 2 quads (1 chosen by each clan) and one trips on Classic, no cards, chained, sunny.

THE GAMES

show: EMP Set 1

show: TSM Set 1

show: EMP Set 2

show: TSM Set 2

show: EMP Set 3

show: TSM Set 3
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Masli on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:03 pm

GL people, think it will be a close one
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby niMic on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:06 pm

This is a pretty huge challenge, should be fun to follow.

Good luck to both clans.
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby dowian2 on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:32 pm

I'm excited. Good luck in this one, Monkis.
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby pmchugh on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:40 pm

I am going to take a stab at 31-29 mokis, interesting challenge anyway!
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Lubawski on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:41 pm

Good luck Monkis. This should be a great battle to the end. Looking forward to losing more points to Skillfull and winning them back from Seul.

pmchugh wrote:I am going to take a stab at 31-29 mokis, interesting challenge anyway!


I hope it's that close. I'd love for this to come down the wire (just flip the score) ;)
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Eyestone on Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:59 pm

Whoah, that's a lot of dubs. Kind of a retro setup if you ask me...

I think this one will be real close. I'm going for 30-30 after the 60 games, and then 4-3 to Empire in the tie breakers :!: 8-)

And good luck to both teams, of course! :D
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:01 pm

this should be fun, who is bringing the popcorn?
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Lubawski on Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:10 pm

Eyestone wrote:Whoah, that's a lot of dubs. Kind of a retro setup if you ask me...


lol. Dick.

Edit: After seeing the set up for some other recent challenges, it strikes me that you might be serious, not just giving me a hard time because the amount of doubles was a point of contention in getting this set up.

Eyestone wrote:I think this one will be real close. I'm going for 30-30 after the 60 games, and then 4-3 to Empire in the tie breakers :!: 8-)

And good luck to both teams, of course! :D


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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Chuuuuck on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:34 pm

I am pretty excited about this. Good luck to the monkis!
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:59 pm

TSM 34 Empire 26 gl all
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby jj3044 on Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:12 pm

Bruceswar wrote:TSM 34 Empire 26 gl all


Oof, that hurts, Bruce! I like Eyestone's prediction much better. :)

GL to TSM! We are looking forward to a hard fought match! We at EMPIRE love spanking monkeys.... :twisted:
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:31 pm

Im more into spanking girls than bestiality :p
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Eyestone on Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:33 am

Lubawski wrote:
Eyestone wrote:Whoah, that's a lot of dubs. Kind of a retro setup if you ask me...


lol. Dick.

Edit: After seeing the set up for some other recent challenges, it strikes me that you might be serious, not just giving me a hard time because the amount of doubles was a point of contention in getting this set up.


Actually I was serious. Most "modern" challenges are weighted more on trips and quads as most people have found out it's a better way to proove the quality of team play. Dubs are far more relying on luck when it comes to drop and first turn advantage (dice goes without saying). I don't know much about your pre-setup discussion with the Monkis, but it seems like I am on your side, Dick ;)
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Eyestone on Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:37 am

Btw. Seems like several of the Empire members still have avatars made for an old KORT-challenge. Shouldn't they be updated with something monkey-like now? O:)
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Dako on Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:48 am

I think it is time for Empire to shine, but I think this will go like
1st batch - Emp leading
2nd batch - tied
3rd batch - TSM leading

Result: 32-28 TSM.
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Lubawski on Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:00 am

Eyestone wrote:Btw. Seems like several of the Empire members still have avatars made for an old KORT-challenge. Shouldn't they be updated with something monkey-like now? O:)


Yes. Somewhere between the Monkis and the Dragoons. Not sure what kind of pic would be good for the dragoons though except, perhaps

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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby kratos644 on Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:58 am

60-0 monkies 8)
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Denise on Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:02 am

Eyestone wrote:
Lubawski wrote:
Eyestone wrote:Whoah, that's a lot of dubs. Kind of a retro setup if you ask me...


lol. Dick.

Edit: After seeing the set up for some other recent challenges, it strikes me that you might be serious, not just giving me a hard time because the amount of doubles was a point of contention in getting this set up.


Actually I was serious. Most "modern" challenges are weighted more on trips and quads as most people have found out it's a better way to proove the quality of team play. Dubs are far more relying on luck when it comes to drop and first turn advantage (dice goes without saying). I don't know much about your pre-setup discussion with the Monkis, but it seems like I am on your side, Dick ;)


It's the setup both clans can live with. It will be a lot of fun. A lot of the monki's enjoy dubs most, so good for them for wanting to play what's fun for them, and for making fun the priority. :)

kratos644 wrote:60-0 monkies 8)
:lol:


:evil: I am going to stick my neck out here. WRONG!!!!
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Seulessliathan on Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:40 am

first of all, good luck Empire, i´m happy we managed to find a compromise for the setup. i´m looking forward to this challenge , will be very interesting, Empire is a very good clan, lot of respect for them.

now about all the discussions about the setup.

Eyestone wrote:Actually I was serious. Most "modern" challenges are weighted more on trips and quads as most people have found out it's a better way to proove the quality of team play. Dubs are far more relying on luck when it comes to drop and first turn advantage (dice goes without saying). I don't know much about your pre-setup discussion with the Monkis, but it seems like I am on your side, Dick ;)


haha, good joke .... wait ... are you really serious?

ok, let´s see the some facts:

our last clan war was against Thota, 80 games, 32 doubles, 24 triples , 24 quads
that´s 40% doubles, 30% triples, 30% quads
i can´t remember anybody said that would be a lot of doubles.
now we have 22/19/19, that´s 36,7% doubles

so 40% is ok, but 36,7% is too much?

oh, and doubles are about luck? have you looked at the setup of the "modern clan wars"? many of them include 1v1 games. Do 1v1 games show better team play ability of a clan? Is 1v1 less about luck than doubles?

One more question: have you ever played quads on small standard maps? THAT is more about luck imo than doubles on small maps.
And if you talk about big maps: i think they are less about luck than small maps. Doodle quad is lottery, World 2.1 double gives an advantage to the team which goes first, but it´s not an autowin. You don´t lose just to the start advantage on such a map in a double.
But in a quad on small maps, first round kills are possible with lucky dice.

Maybe some people didn´t notice that it was TSM who tried to ban the luck options from clan war first.
In the beginning, we tried to do to much here and banned too small maps from clan wars, but we got a lot of shit for that, and i guess it should be possible indeed to play all maps.
It was me who invented the 12 hour fog rule to give same chances to both teams in fog games, so it´s less about the going first and having first look advantage. Don´t tell us that we try to pick options which are based on luck primary. That´s simply ridiculous, and i think nobody of Empire believes that we try to beat them with luck based games.

And, seriously, where have you been last winter if you believe 40% doubles is too much and all about luck? Oh, and should we add 1v1 games to prove our teamplay ability?

You can make your own thread about your opinion about clan war settings, luck options etc, but don´t use this thread for it please. Empire and TSM agreed to these rules, it´s not against any rules, so we will do it with these rules, no matter if other people believe we asked for these rules to make best use of our luck. But why should we ban "manual" then?


now, merry x-mas to everybody, and a great clan war in january.
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby kratos644 on Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:16 am

Denise wrote:
kratos644 wrote:60-0 monkies 8)
:lol:


:evil: I am going to stick my neck out here. WRONG!!!!

Oh Denise I forgot you're in Empire. Okay, okay... we taught you, too, much. 50-10 monkies :ugeek:

Alright I'm just messing with you guys. This will be a good battle, I predict 37-23 us. Love ya Denise :]
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby Big Whiskey on Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:48 am

nice to finally see TSM back in the mix.

good luck to both clans
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby skillfull on Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:31 am

LEt's have a great battle here guys, good luck to Empire clan and I wish Merry Christmas to Everyone.
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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby mkcummins on Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:35 am

it looks like everyone's predictions have EMPIRE as the underdog. I believe that is exactly how we'd like it! Good luck to both clans. This will surely be a historic battle for CC.

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Re: EMPIRE vs TSM (Pre-Game)

Postby lord voldemort on Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:00 pm

yes merry christmas all...good luck in our little contest...may the dice and drops and first turns and baby sitting be fair ;)
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Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (3) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (1)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (4) General Achievement (4) Clan Achievement (13) Tournament Contribution (8) General Contribution (3)

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