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[CC4] RA (29) vs ATL (32) - Final 11/15

Postby VioIet on Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:52 am

Round 16 of "Conquer Cup 4" - Risk Attackers vs Atlantis

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show: RA Round 1 Home Games


show: ATL Round 1 Home Games


show: RA Round 2 Home Games


show: ATL Round 2 Home Games


show: RA Round 3 Home Games


show: ATL Round 3 Home Games


Tie-Breaker
Forfeited - Win to ATL

show: RA Player Usage


show: ATL Player Usage
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby BoganGod on Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:58 am

Good Luck RA.

Sorry to nitpick, would love some clarification of a few minor details.
Would it be possible to clearly state in the details pulldown

- Dates for exchange of 2nd and 3rd sets
- Game break down - How many of each per clan per set.
- Your forfeited game will that be a dbs, trips, or quads game?
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby VioIet on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:19 am

Sure. But does that mean you, Bogan, are now the contact for this war, as no one from Atlantis replied to my pm to discuss the details?

I believe it is a 2 week time frame between the exchange of each Batch. I believe the second one was to be sent out September 11th.

I already have in the pull-down menu, how the games will be divided.

And let me get back to you on the forfeit. I was just thinking that Atlantis get's an extra point. But if I have to actually decide a game, then let's wait til after Batch 1. I will likely choose a quads game.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Arama86n on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:20 am

Violet has always struck me a lovely person, and I'm happy things are going well for RA, but in this match-up there can be no doubt as to where my loyalties lie :)
Come on Atlantis, it's time to follow your own words and rise straight up to the quarter final. =D>
There are one or two of my acquaintances that do not believe it's a sure thing we'll be facing you on the next round, but they didn't doubt enough to put $300 behind that opinion, and that is the strength of my faith in you.
Genoke, I want to see a margin of 5 games.

Good luck RA! =D>
Go Atlantis :!: =D>
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby BoganGod on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:54 am

VioIet wrote:Sure. But does that mean you, Bogan, are now the contact for this war, as no one from Atlantis replied to my pm to discuss the details?

I believe it is a 2 week time frame between the exchange of each Batch. I believe the second one was to be sent out September 11th.

I already have in the pull-down menu, how the games will be divided.

And let me get back to you on the forfeit. I was just thinking that Atlantis get's an extra point. But if I have to actually decide a game, then let's wait til after Batch 1. I will likely choose a quads game.


I think you might have a malfunction with your pm box. Genoke bcc'ed me into his reply to you about the details. Am happy to be the contact. Though am sure Genoke will continue on as contact. As you might be aware, is middle of the day over there in the land of beer and mussels. Genoke is probably spending family time. He always replies to pm's that he receives. More reliable than an atomic clock, say what you like about him but being lax in communication is not one of his shortcomings.

When you think about it, Atlantis just getting an extra point on top of the normal available points would not be a forfeit as such. That would make the clan war out of 62points....... As you can imagine that could potentially cause issues. Get back to me or Genoke(preferably Genoke until he says otherwise) on this, maybe copy in chemefreak to avoid any confusion or double handling. We are eager to get this up and running, don't want to be in a situation again where other clans are waiting for us.

You don't have in the pull down menu HOW THE GAMES WILL BE DIVIDED INTO SETS. Specifics - Set one will consist of .......
Set two will consist of ........ Set three will consist of .......... The tie break will be created and played in the advent of/or in set number...... You've listed the amount of each game setting, but now how they are divided into sets. Little detail, but to avoid the whole, "Oh I thought we were creating 3not4 doubles this set, I'll have the 4th to you in a couple of days" thing.

Would like to minimise the potential for confusion. Spell it out please, as if we have never been in a clan war and are approaching this like noobs. Thank you for stepping up and taking responsibility as the leader of the higher ranked clan and creating this thread. Gives me more time to piss of poor Arama86n by posting about his up coming marriage.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby VioIet on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:12 am

There is nothing wrong with my inbox. Are you sure that Genoke pm'd me? Try clicking on that name that he sent it to. Is it really the right spelling? I am pretty sure it is anyone else but me. I never received an email from Genoke.

Also, all he had to do was hit reply to the pm that I sent him.

I am sure he is not lax in communication; however, he did overlook my pm. I'm sure it happens to all of us at times. Remember back in NCC4 when we were first setting it up, Genoke pm'd me and never received a reply. It was because I wrote out my reply, but accidentally hit preview instead of send (not the first time I've done that before either.) I never realized what I had done until Genoke said in the thread that I hadn't yet responded to him. I checked and sure enough, it wasn't in my sent box. I felt pretty dumb about that, but oh well. Stuff Happens.


And in the drop down box- I do have how it will be broken up into sets. It's rather simplistic, but it is there.

I will copy/paste here:
show: ATL Round 1 Home Games


show: RA Round 2 Home Games



show: ATL Round 2 Home Games



show: RA Round 3 Home Games



show: ATL Round 3 Home Games



So basically Batch 1 will be:
4 dubs
4 trips
4 quads

Batch 2 & 3
3 dubs
3 trips
3 quads

I'm thinking that the tie-breaker can be sent in the last round.


Yes, the 62 points can create issues in the event of a tie. It will have to resort in other tie-breakers methods. To avoid all that, I understand why I have to choose a game to forfeit.

And you're welcome :)
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby BoganGod on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:24 am

Thanks so much for taking care of this. Sorry to be such a pain.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:19 am

Just a suggestion: if the forfeit stands, I'd suggest it be applied to the tie-breaker game. Since the alleged offense was against the TO, why not apply the penalty on the one TO-mandated game? That solves the problem with 62 games and no one loses out on any home games.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby BoganGod on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:16 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Just a suggestion: if the forfeit stands, I'd suggest it be applied to the tie-breaker game. Since the alleged offense was against the TO, why not apply the penalty on the one TO-mandated game? That solves the problem with 62 games and no one loses out on any home games.


Great suggestion, though I for one would not be happy. Classic is a map that we are very strong on.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby chemefreak on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:59 am

The forfeited game will be the tiebreak. So there is no need to play it.

The schedule is as follows (from my August 10, 2013 private message):

RA is the higher ranked clan so VioIet, you will be responsible for starting the thread. Here is your schedule:

Round 1 - August 26, 2013 (Additional day given due to forfeit)
Round 2 - September 8, 2013
Round 3 - September 22, 2013

Atlantis...I need your confirmation you are okay with the game exchanges and that she has written the thread correctly before I issue privs. Thanks.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Genoke on Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:35 pm

Atlantis agrees with the terms/rules/dates/batches

edit: with dates agreed from schedule of chemefreak
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby chemefreak on Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:40 pm

Genoke wrote:Atlantis agrees with the terms/rules/dates/batches


Thanks. I have edited the OP and will issue privs. Good luck to both clans.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Genoke on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:17 pm

VioIet wrote:There is nothing wrong with my inbox. Are you sure that Genoke pm'd me? Try clicking on that name that he sent it to. Is it really the right spelling? I am pretty sure it is anyone else but me. I never received an email from Genoke.

Also, all he had to do was hit reply to the pm that I sent him.

I am sure he is not lax in communication; however, he did overlook my pm. I'm sure it happens to all of us at times. Remember back in NCC4 when we were first setting it up, Genoke pm'd me and never received a reply. It was because I wrote out my reply, but accidentally hit preview instead of send (not the first time I've done that before either.) I never realized what I had done until Genoke said in the thread that I hadn't yet responded to him. I checked and sure enough, it wasn't in my sent box. I felt pretty dumb about that, but oh well. Stuff Happens.

I confirm that i'll be the primary contact for Atlantis!

The reason you never got my pm is already know by you and chemefreak (actually he's the one who found out). Not sure why you didn't mentioned it here. But it seems that you prefer to pretend you didn't knew anything. :shock:

Your name is spelled VIOIET but i always read it as VIOLET (l little L and I big i)
unfortunately there is a player with the name Violet (has only played 8 games, which i checked out today) otherwise i would've got an error by that name.
maybe if i add you on my friendslist this won't happen again.... :D
sent me a pm with a nice joke and i'll add you! O:)

If I was the host of this thread and i wouldn't had received any reply so close too the deadline...i would've sent another pm: kind of remember. Why didn't you?
You just waited until chemefreak woke up...

I must admit on my part i was a bit leazy for checking everything out for the last week so i pm'd chemefreak and Violet (the wrong you) this friday, because the deadline came very close:
sent it to Voilet and chemefreak:
first batch RA vs ATL

Sent: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:25 am
by Genoke
Hey Violet,

first batch needs to be exchanged in 2 days and still no communication about it. even no war thread... :(

we have to play 3 batches, how about we play each kind of game type in 1 batch, like:
1st batch: dubs
2nd batch: trips + tiebreaker
3rd batch: quads

we keep all the settings as written in CCup4 thread.

i think this is the easiest solution, but maybe you think different?


conclusion: there was an error in communication from me to you (wrong name spelled) and a bit of lack for taking initiative in pm's when deadline came closer.
result: chemefreak stepped in as a referee to keep his schedule on the right track.

ps: (reason for my leaziness: my baby daughter is in a coma as i speak 1 week now) people on my FB can confirm my situation. Nonetheless i keep active in CC, taking my turns, sitting for a few players and trying to get our homegames done.
Looking out for others tasks against a deadline surely wasn't one of my priorities! I hope you understand...
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Arama86n on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Genoke wrote:ps: (reason for my leaziness: my baby daughter is in a coma as i speak 1 week now)


:shock: :?
I'm so sorry to hear that mate. My thoughts are with you.
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Re: [CC4] RA (0) vs ATL (1)

Postby Keefie on Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Mate,

How you are still managing to do anything on CC amazes me =D> Real life always comes first and I hope so much that your beautiful baby girl recovers very soon.

My prayers are with you and your family.
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