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Doc_Brown wrote:On point 3: Thanks, and I agree. From what I've seen in the past, games whose outcome was clearly changed by a site bug have been happily recreated by both clans(i.e. when very even games were clearly decided by the bug), and I'm optimistic that that will continue to be the case.
Chariot of Fire wrote:I told him he should have edited it, lol
Foxglove wrote:Doc_Brown wrote:On point 3: Thanks, and I agree. From what I've seen in the past, games whose outcome was clearly changed by a site bug have been happily recreated by both clans(i.e. when very even games were clearly decided by the bug), and I'm optimistic that that will continue to be the case.
I would actually say that statement is definitively not true.
Doc_Brown wrote:Foxglove wrote:Doc_Brown wrote:On point 3: Thanks, and I agree. From what I've seen in the past, games whose outcome was clearly changed by a site bug have been happily recreated by both clans(i.e. when very even games were clearly decided by the bug), and I'm optimistic that that will continue to be the case.
I would actually say that statement is definitively not true.
It's the "outcome was clearly changed" that I figured still held true.
I mean, I had the VoTK game down as about 75-80% win chance before Pirlo missed a turn, and closer to 90% afterwords. Then it jumped to like 97% with the site bug. I know there are differences of opinion on that game, but did it the bug clearly change the outcome?
Doc_Brown wrote:Regardless, I probably should not have left the comment in there. It was clearly either meant to be provocative at best or trolling at worst. There are enough headaches and hard feelings surrounding CC4 without me poking the cows as well. So, my apologies for stirring up more trouble.
eddie2 wrote:can i ask you a simple question when i started aka with time players and the rest of time merged into aka we were not allowed to partake in this event so where is the difference....
Denise wrote:eddie2 wrote:can i ask you a simple question when i started aka with time players and the rest of time merged into aka we were not allowed to partake in this event so where is the difference....
The difference is in past conduct, Eddie. This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior. These guys are long time proven clan leaders. They are not going to bring chaos to the competition as other brand new unproven clans have done. They should absolutely be allowed to compete in CC4.
Denise wrote:eddie2 wrote:can i ask you a simple question when i started aka with time players and the rest of time merged into aka we were not allowed to partake in this event so where is the difference....
The difference is in past conduct, Eddie. This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior. These guys are long time proven clan leaders. They are not going to bring chaos to the competition as other brand new unproven clans have done. They should absolutely be allowed to compete in CC4.
Denise wrote:eddie2 wrote:can i ask you a simple question when i started aka with time players and the rest of time merged into aka we were not allowed to partake in this event so where is the difference....
The difference is in past conduct, Eddie. This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior. These guys are long time proven clan leaders. They are not going to bring chaos to the competition as other brand new unproven clans have done. They should absolutely be allowed to compete in CC4.
You must have completed 1 war, unless your behaviour has been exemplary
This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior.
greenoaks wrote:Denise wrote:eddie2 wrote:can i ask you a simple question when i started aka with time players and the rest of time merged into aka we were not allowed to partake in this event so where is the difference....
The difference is in past conduct, Eddie. This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior. These guys are long time proven clan leaders. They are not going to bring chaos to the competition as other brand new unproven clans have done. They should absolutely be allowed to compete in CC4.
how come the rules weren'tYou must have completed 1 war, unless your behaviour has been exemplary
that would have prevented any confusion
shoop76 wrote:This privilege is something the new AoC/Empire clan has earned because of their exemplary past behavior.
What if TFFS would have joined with a middle of the pack clan, would this privilege have been given?
Would ATLANTIS have been allowed in if AoC/ Empire had not merged? Or are they just reaping the benefits of the merger?
What happens if the merger hasn't created an official clan by the end of the 2 week sign up period? Everyone will have to wait for that to happen.
I have no problem with rule changes, but these should not happen 2 or 3 weeks before the start of an event.
This has surely already been mentioned, but I don't want to read through everything again, especially with so many contradicting things being said from beginning to end, but will these clans be seeded?
If not I"m sure the draw will be conveniently made where we don't see AoC/Empire facing a top 3 clan in the round of 32.
chemefreak wrote:Does everyone here honestly believe that a combined Empire (one of the oldest clans on CC) and AoC (an extremely well established clan) would be unable to function in CCup4?
Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm not prepared to meet them if they haven't been properly ranked on the F400. I have absolutely no qualms with them joining the tourney - what went before was exactly that, 'before', and rules are prone to change to make for a better experience. But two big issues remain for me (and probably my clan, though none of us are actually talking about this at all) which are the ranking/points/seeding of AoE and at what point TOFU & AFOS are expected to join CC4 when there's still a 60 game CC3 final to contest.
Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm not prepared to meet them if they haven't been properly ranked on the F400. I have absolutely no qualms with them joining the tourney - what went before was exactly that, 'before', and rules are prone to change to make for a better experience. But two big issues remain for me (and probably my clan, though none of us are actually talking about this at all) which are the ranking/points/seeding of AoE and at what point TOFU & AFOS are expected to join CC4 when there's still a 60 game CC3 final to contest.
patrickaa317 wrote:chemefreak wrote:Does everyone here honestly believe that a combined Empire (one of the oldest clans on CC) and AoC (an extremely well established clan) would be unable to function in CCup4?
Are entries on these major clan events typically based on subjective criteria such as whether people think they could function or not? They seem to have not been able to continue to function in CL5... Just sayin.
swimmerdude99 wrote:patrickaa317 wrote:chemefreak wrote:Does everyone here honestly believe that a combined Empire (one of the oldest clans on CC) and AoC (an extremely well established clan) would be unable to function in CCup4?
Are entries on these major clan events typically based on subjective criteria such as whether people think they could function or not? They seem to have not been able to continue to function in CL5... Just sayin.
The only reason that we are dropping out of CL5 is because we aren't allowed to be in two clans at once. If we were allowed to finish out CL5 as just Empire or AoC, then I doubt there would be any problem continuing to function in CL5. The reason that I think CC4 should be allowed for the merging group is that if we had just "merged" in the real sense of the word into one clan... we would be allowed in. Its the same clan leadership and mostly players, just under a new banner. Very similar to Atlantis, why they should be allowed is similar in reason. They are a group of players that are distinguished already although they did add some new faces, so both groups are really separate and either one of us could be told not to enter if there were logical reason to not allow it and the other were allowed.
swimmerdude99 wrote:patrickaa317 wrote:chemefreak wrote:Does everyone here honestly believe that a combined Empire (one of the oldest clans on CC) and AoC (an extremely well established clan) would be unable to function in CCup4?
Are entries on these major clan events typically based on subjective criteria such as whether people think they could function or not? They seem to have not been able to continue to function in CL5... Just sayin.
The only reason that we are dropping out of CL5 is because we aren't allowed to be in two clans at once. If we were allowed to finish out CL5 as just Empire or AoC, then I doubt there would be any problem continuing to function in CL5. The reason that I think CC4 should be allowed for the merging group is that if we had just "merged" in the real sense of the word into one clan... we would be allowed in. Its the same clan leadership and mostly players, just under a new banner. Very similar to Atlantis, why they should be allowed is similar in reason. They are a group of players that are distinguished already although they did add some new faces, so both groups are really separate and either one of us could be told not to enter if there were logical reason to not allow it and the other were allowed.
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