Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

[the.killing.44]

ya know, map I is now running away from it. I say no run off is necessary if this kind of lead remains.

Of course no map is going to get >50% of the vote since everyone was allowed 2 votes. That doesn't mean that map I is not the clear favorite.

I'd like a run off. I voted for F and I, and I have no clue yet as to which I like more. And there are many other people that voted for both that could be in the same dilemma as myself.

I think that there can't be any harm in running a second poll between just the 2 maps.

Right. I understand the reasoning and that's fine. There's no harm (other than taking more time) but I'm pretty confident the runoff won't change anything. I'd be fine with having one, and it does ensure the fairest possible vote, but I don't personally think it is close enough to be necessary.

Well, i think it would be interesting to see the outcome with only one option.
For all i know, the same 129 who voted for F, could easily have voted also for I, in this vote.
While the coutcome may be the same or similar, it solidifies the winner with only one choice to vote for.
That's my opinion anyways.

I think that's exactly right. Basically, without a run-off then there's no point to the ability to select 2 options. In essence, this 2-option poll—in my mind—was, unless the result was ridiculously one-sided, to decide which two maps would partake in a run-off.

[porkenbeans]

ya know, map I is now running away from it. I say no run off is necessary if this kind of lead remains.

Of course no map is going to get >50% of the vote since everyone was allowed 2 votes. That doesn't mean that map I is not the clear favorite.

I'd like a run off. I voted for F and I, and I have no clue yet as to which I like more. And there are many other people that voted for both that could be in the same dilemma as myself.

I think that there can't be any harm in running a second poll between just the 2 maps.

Right. I understand the reasoning and that's fine. There's no harm (other than taking more time) but I'm pretty confident the runoff won't change anything. I'd be fine with having one, and it does ensure the fairest possible vote, but I don't personally think it is close enough to be necessary.

Well, i think it would be interesting to see the outcome with only one option.
For all i know, the same 129 who voted for F, could easily have voted also for I, in this vote.
While the coutcome may be the same or similar, it solidifies the winner with only one choice to vote for.
That's my opinion anyways.

I think that's exactly right. Basically, without a run-off then there's no point to the ability to select 2 options. In essence, this 2-option poll—in my mind—was, unless the result was ridiculously one-sided, to decide which two maps would partake in a run-off.

I agree with cairn, neon, and 44.

[Seulessliathan]

difficult to make a revamp for a map which includes some geographical nonsense like the imassable between Osnabrück - Münster. First person who sends me a photo of any impassable there will get my vote. So far , maps with rivers and hills there get my vote, that makes more sense than mountains, and i don´t have more major issues with these maps (D&I).
Name changes make sense on all maps, i don´t like the maps which are really dark.

[Lone.prophet]

difficult to make a revamp for a map which includes some geographical nonsense like the imassable between Osnabrück - Münster. First person who sends me a photo of any impassable there will get my vote. So far , maps with rivers and hills there get my vote, that makes more sense than mountains, and i don´t have more major issues with these maps (D&I).
Name changes make sense on all maps, i don´t like the maps which are really dark.

impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.

btw i voted for I looked the best IMO but ofcourse some things could still improve, like the overdone old paper tone or the non matching german shield

[Seulessliathan]

impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.

i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?

[sully800]

impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.

i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?

Seuless - that impassable exists because this is a revamp of a previous map. No one is allowed to change the gameplay, and the original map included some impassables and other territories that were wildly inaccurate. People are doing the best with what they've got, but by the rules of a revamp those impassables cannot disappear.

As for impassables that came out of nowhere for gameplay balance - see Brazil.

[Lone.prophet]

impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.

i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?

well maybe they should think of any other impassible than nature pfenomena, but the idea of the impassables is to make the map balanced for the general starting conditions. so if the map needs them maybe they should make a bit up!

[happy2seeyou]

Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.

[Bruceswar]

D had my vote

[MrBenn]

Poll Result:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578

[MrBenn]

Following the result of the poll, there will be a run-off poll between maps F and I.

I'm going to allow a few days for any final tweaks based on feedback within this thread; The final poll will commence on Sunday - so the finalists have until 23:59 (GMT) on Saturday to produce their final submissions.

[AndyDufresne]

Look forward to the updated maps!


--Andy

[porkenbeans]

To the author of I,
The territories of Munster and Osnabruck are connected on the left bank of the river.

[skeletonboy]

Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.

I think A is the original

[the.killing.44]

Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.

I think A is the original

No, other original.

Can people (besides F & I) say which map they made?

[the.killing.44]

Been a week since w—they, submitted revisions

[Bruceswar]

Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.

I think A is the original

No, other original.

Can people (besides F & I) say which map they made?

Actually so voting is not tainted in any way I think it is best to wait till all voting is done. If all got F & I reveal, people will likely figure out who F and I is.

[MrBenn]

POLL RESULT:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578

[the.killing.44]

POLL RESULT:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578

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[MrBenn]

I was sure I'd done all this before




The first round vote has been counted and verified - the two runaway favourites were entries F and I; without further ado, I present the final entries - The poll closes in 7 days and this time around you only have one vote: The winning map will replace the currently live version of Germany!

Map F:



Map I:

[skeletonboy]

Pretty even at the moment.

GO F!

[Mad-elph]

I vote for i, it is a nice map

[Optimus Prime]

Map I for the win!

[jefjef]

I like map I

BUT the rivers should all be the same shade as the impassables chart river.

[fumandomuerte]

Map F colours combination is tha shizzle. Go F!