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[Forum] Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Fri May 14, 2010 2:17 pm

Add the checkbox "Show votes in public" for any poll (upon edit or creation of a poll). This will show who voted which option under the results.

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That will greatly improve inside clan/CC team voting system. And since it is optional - no one forces you to make the poll public.

And the best part - there is a working phpBB3 mod. I know it is listed as beta but I have installed it on the other phpBB3 forum and it is working there - live example.

I hope you will like my suggestion and together we can push lack to install this mod!

PS - added the poll for this suggestion.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby edwinissweet on Fri May 14, 2010 3:20 pm

yesssssssssssss.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby cena-rules on Fri May 14, 2010 3:52 pm

edwinissweet wrote:yesssssssssssss.

QFT, this would really help in clans!!
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby cena-rules on Fri May 14, 2010 3:54 pm

The only problem is that in polls where 100's of people vote, if someone sets it to public, it will get fairly cramped and cluttered
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Fri May 14, 2010 3:58 pm

cena-rules wrote:The only problem is that in polls where 100's of people vote, if someone sets it to public, it will get fairly cramped and cluttered

This is a design problem that can be solved in 2 ways - a) make votes containers scrollable inside; b) do not make 100+ voters vote public.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby jsholty4690 on Fri May 14, 2010 6:12 pm

Sounds a bit like card check to me. :lol:

But seriously, I can see a lot of trolling as a result of this. Queen Herpes somewhat makes my case on page 7

Edit* However, I've sometimes wanted to know who voted for what on some polls.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Sat May 15, 2010 2:39 am

Remember, that is an option - you are not forced to make the votes public. It will most useful for private discussions inside usergroups.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby edwinissweet on Sat May 15, 2010 5:25 am

If people dont want to vote because its public then they dont have to.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby jsholty4690 on Sat May 15, 2010 9:50 am

Dako wrote:Remember, that is an option - you are not forced to make the votes public. It will most useful for private discussions inside usergroups.


I just wanted to point out that this will be one of the responses by the community. It will be inevitable, I know this will be a cool option, but it'll just turn many threads into flame wars, whether the original poster wanted it or not. Maybe I'm just a cynic, but that's how I see this.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sat May 15, 2010 11:45 pm

jsholty4690 wrote:Sounds a bit like card check to me. :lol:

But seriously, I can see a lot of trolling as a result of this. Queen Herpes somewhat makes my case on page 7

Edit* However, I've sometimes wanted to know who voted for what on some polls.


Can you explain the reference to my comment in your post, please?
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby edwinissweet on Sat May 15, 2010 11:53 pm

no baiting please
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby jsholty4690 on Sun May 16, 2010 8:09 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
jsholty4690 wrote:Sounds a bit like card check to me. :lol:

But seriously, I can see a lot of trolling as a result of this. Queen Herpes somewhat makes my case on page 7

Edit* However, I've sometimes wanted to know who voted for what on some polls.


Can you explain the reference to my comment in your post, please?


Not extremely relevant, but somewhat. You weren't going out to attack the mods, but the mods thought you were attacking them, which started a small confrontation. I used it as an example to show what the Bumpage will look like if this is implemented.

I want to point out that this may be extremely useful in clans/social groups, but not much so in the community at large. (Since I don't have much to do with clans I don't see the merit, but obviously others do.) So, maybe make this an option for clans and social groups and not for the community at large because we'll see a lot more bans comming if we use this, in say the Bumpage.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Sun May 16, 2010 8:17 am

It is not possible to limit this option to not-bumpage forums only. Unless not without a dirty hacks that no one will code on this site. So this should placed on the shoulder of topic creator - unless he really wants to start new flame wars :-).
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby jsholty4690 on Sun May 16, 2010 8:26 am

Just wanted to let this possible outcome known to you. Good luck with your suggestion.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Masli on Tue May 18, 2010 4:37 pm

I really like the Idea, 1 question : will it be an option when you vote 2 ? Sometimes people don't want others to know. So I think it should be an option for the one who votes 2 !

Btw, I voted yes

Oh, I like bananas 2, but had to make a choice
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby MyTurnToWin on Tue May 18, 2010 4:39 pm

As long as it is "optional" then I say YES.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 18, 2010 4:42 pm

This HAS to be implemented. Almost all good forums have this luxury and I don't see why CC would be worse than any of them. As for avoiding crampage, there's an easy solution: it starts minimized and if someone wants to check it, he just maximizes it. Great suggestion!
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Tue May 18, 2010 4:45 pm

Masli wrote:I really like the Idea, 1 question : will it be an option when you vote 2 ? Sometimes people don't want others to know. So I think it should be an option for the one who votes 2 !

Btw, I voted yes

Oh, I like bananas 2, but had to make a choice

Well, I think it will create some half-public votes out there. I guess if the votes are public and you don't want to expose your opinion (holy wars coming?) - don't vote in public votes.

And yes, this is _optional_ feature. We will always have good old private polls (like they are right now).
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby reptile on Tue May 18, 2010 4:52 pm

This would definitely be a VERY helpful option...especially in the private forums!!! It would be great to know who voted what... and WHO has yet to vote...etc..
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dai_atan on Tue May 18, 2010 4:55 pm

nifty!
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby pimpdave on Tue May 18, 2010 5:03 pm

This is a terrible idea.

Secret ballot, and all that. Imagine all of the further bickering this will create. Also, it will encourage further proliferation of multi-accounts, so people can just vote and remain anonymous.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Tue May 18, 2010 5:10 pm

pimpdave wrote:This is a terrible idea.

Secret ballot, and all that. Imagine all of the further bickering this will create. Also, it will encourage further proliferation of multi-accounts, so people can just vote and remain anonymous.

Well, this is just an option. And if you want to bother and create a multi for just a vote - you can do so now. As I already said - target user group of this feature will be private usergroups where people are mature and trust each other.

Polls in public forums can still be as they are now. And even if they were made public with this optional feature - I am sure mods will handle the situation and our MultiHunters will be swift to ban all the multies.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby ljex on Tue May 18, 2010 5:12 pm

I think this is a great idea as long as it is optional and it seems rather easy to implement so i voted yes
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Serbia on Tue May 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Bad idea. Totally against it - and I'd rather not vote at all than have my vote available to be seen. If I want people to know how I voted, I'll tell them. Otherwise, votes are private.

And in a clan setting, which is an even smaller, more personal setting, an option like that will end up creating witch hunts. And not voting wouldn't even save that person, because a non-vote could be construed to be a vote against the popular majority, which essentially would create the same issue. I'm completely against this.
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Re: Public poll votes

Postby Dako on Tue May 18, 2010 5:20 pm

Serbia wrote:And in a clan setting, which is an even smaller, more personal setting, an option like that will end up creating witch hunts. And not voting wouldn't even save that person, because a non-vote could be construed to be a vote against the popular majority, which essentially would create the same issue. I'm completely against this.

That depends on a clan environment - if it is already aggressive there - yeah, witch hunts may start there. But I don't see a problem of people voting "No" in public. Anyway, most of "No" votes are discarded if they are not explained in comment below. Basically, small groups use votes not to create a statistic, but to find out if anyone has a veto vote on something. And I think since this suggestion will be an optional choice - I don't see a problem where a problematic issues is created as a private poll.
But I think you were wrong assuming closed usergroups will turn which hunting on each other - what kind of team they are after that? Friends? Doubt that. More like hounds.
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