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jefjef wrote:So it's power thing? That's why you oppose it?
Clans and it's leaders do not contribute to CC? We do not volunteer our time to make this an enjoyable community? MANY of us in the clan world, leaders and members alike, contribute greatly to CC's welfare and profit. I find that view rather offensive as I'm sure others will too.
BTW: This is not a site recognition. It is a clan recognition for it's members. Our friends. CC's customers.
peanutsdad wrote:JJ i wouldn't bother even responding to metsfanmax truthfully, he's obviously not in support of this idea. Beings it appears he's the only that's not in support of it, as opposed to the now 4 pages of people that are in support of it, I wouldn't worry about it. Mythology and the CLA are fully in support of this, and hope it goes through.
Metsfanmax wrote:peanutsdad wrote:JJ i wouldn't bother even responding to metsfanmax truthfully, he's obviously not in support of this idea. Beings it appears he's the only that's not in support of it, as opposed to the now 4 pages of people that are in support of it, I wouldn't worry about it. Mythology and the CLA are fully in support of this, and hope it goes through.
Support for a suggestion does not mean much if supporters of that suggestion actively ignore cogent criticisms of the suggestion -- because it shows either that people did not fully think through the suggestion, or do not have any desire to fully think it through. If this is indeed a good thing for the site to implement, it should not be hard to address my criticisms -- so why would you instead suggest that someone should lie to and/or ignore me?
4 U 2 NV wrote:i like the idea of new medals. i know many clan members who do outstanding work above and beyond what others do who need to be recognized in some way. i think having every clan able to distribute one may take the importance of what the medal can represent.
Clan A may have 3 people who organize several wars, highly active and always push their clan further. while clan B has 1 person who organized 1 war within the span of that year but was unheard from for the rest of the year. i'm sure i'm confusing but it's late and i'm tired lol. point is that there should be some sort of filter system with a standard bar.
The average user has never had a direct say on who gets site medals. You simply cannot ignore this and evaluate this suggestion in a vacuum. I said I am unconvinced for a reason -- because I think there are legitimate reasons why we might want such a framework in place. However, those reasons definitely need to be established before something like this can happen.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
Bruceswar wrote:While I support this idea it just will not work with the current CC setup medal wise. We would have to pass all our suggestions to CD's for them to review and then issue out Medals.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
jgordon1111 wrote:Mets by your own standards this medal is a clan medal,just that each clan gets to decide which individual in the clan gets it.Not all cc members can receive clan achievement medals. So your first argument has defeated itself. It is taking nothing out of the moderators hands,because in the clan achievement medals the clan gets them,so in essence you dont decide who gets them you just hand them out, CC would still hand them out,not the clan leaders.
greenoaks wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Mets by your own standards this medal is a clan medal,just that each clan gets to decide which individual in the clan gets it.Not all cc members can receive clan achievement medals. So your first argument has defeated itself. It is taking nothing out of the moderators hands,because in the clan achievement medals the clan gets them,so in essence you dont decide who gets them you just hand them out, CC would still hand them out,not the clan leaders.
that's not quite true, certain criteria still needs to be met and checked for a Clan Achievement medal to be awarded.
some of the reasons suggested for what this could be awarded for i disagree with ie. has won games in clan wars. i also disagree with the limit of 1 per clan for every clan.
a clan could have someone create and maintain an extensive stats database, someone else create and run all clan wars and a third person spend countless hours training up clan members for combat. that's 3 medals right there. a different clan might have no one doing that stuff and so shouldn't be handing out a medal at all.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
jefjef wrote:Just because the average user has never had a say on who gets a medal doesn't mean it has to remain that way.
It's easy. CC says yes this is a fantastic idea for our customers. They code in a fancy image of a cool award. Each qualified clan picks a qualified member they, as a clan, wish to acknowledge. The said clans leaders pm a CD with who they wish to receive said award. CD enters award and the recipient receives a pm titled "You have been awarded a medal" and that awards image magically appears on the recipients wall.
jgordon1111 wrote:Mets by your own standards this medal is a clan medal,just that each clan gets to decide which individual in the clan gets it.Not all cc members can receive clan achievement medals. So your first argument has defeated itself. It is taking nothing out of the moderators hands,because in the clan achievement medals the clan gets them,so in essence you dont decide who gets them you just hand them out, CC would still hand them out,not the clan leaders.
This potentially opens the door to other usergroups
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
jefjef wrote:This potentially opens the door to other usergroups
Clans are NOT usergroups. Stop pulling at straws. This is a ridiculous statement.
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