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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:57 am

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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby SirSebstar on Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:55 am

BGtheBrain wrote:It sits in the outbox until it is actually read.
If they dont read it, it just stays there.

Once they read it, it moves to sent messages.

know that this is true for one reciepent.
if you sent the same message with multiple reciepients then it sits there untill it is read. however i am not sure if that must be all or just some. just know that with multiple reciepients there is something else going on
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby trinicardinal on Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:09 am

SirSebstar wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:It sits in the outbox until it is actually read.
If they dont read it, it just stays there.

Once they read it, it moves to sent messages.

know that this is true for one reciepent.
if you sent the same message with multiple reciepients then it sits there untill it is read. however i am not sure if that must be all or just some. just know that with multiple reciepients there is something else going on


I think that once it is read by one recipient it is moved to sent.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby jefjef on Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:42 am

trinicardinal wrote:
SirSebstar wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:It sits in the outbox until it is actually read.
If they dont read it, it just stays there.

Once they read it, it moves to sent messages.

know that this is true for one reciepent.
if you sent the same message with multiple reciepients then it sits there untill it is read. however i am not sure if that must be all or just some. just know that with multiple reciepients there is something else going on


I think that once it is read by one recipient it is moved to sent.


You are correct.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby SirSebstar on Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:05 pm

BGtheBrainand jefjef, the reason that i dont know for sure is that i have an msg in the outbox that at least 3 reciepients have replied to and a fair few others not..
following your logic it should have gone away from the outbox, after all you cannot send a reply without reading the msg...
it might be that this was a msg change since the message is quite old, but still.. its there all right...
so thats why i know something is not right
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby BGtheBrain on Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:11 pm

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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby jefjef on Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:58 pm

BGtheBrainand jefjef, the reason that i dont know for sure is that i have an msg in the outbox that at least 3 reciepients have replied to and a fair few others not..


I send out pm's to multiple people all the time. Once 1 person opens it - it immediately goes from OUT into the SENT folder.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Jippd on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:50 am

Same for me one person reads and it goes from outbox to sent
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby chapcrap on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:32 pm

What about if you send someone a message and they delete it without opening it?
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Forza AZ on Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:47 am

chapcrap wrote:What about if you send someone a message and they delete it without opening it?

That would be the same as a message that isn't read, so it will stay in your outbox forever then.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby chapcrap on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:05 am

Forza AZ wrote:
chapcrap wrote:What about if you send someone a message and they delete it without opening it?

That would be the same as a message that isn't read, so it will stay in your outbox forever then.

I would think that it would not be like that...

I'll send you a message and you delete it so we can test.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby eddie2 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:48 am

ok easy to explain

pm's 2 1 person
stays in outbox until read..(the problem i think the op has is that the player in ? might of had several pms missed his then it does not show on are main screen as inbox (1).. so maybe resend it..

group pms...
show when one player reads it takes it away from your outbox...

but if you use the bbe code i am sure it only removes from outbox as each individual person reads it...
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Forza AZ on Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:36 am

chapcrap wrote:
Forza AZ wrote:
chapcrap wrote:What about if you send someone a message and they delete it without opening it?

That would be the same as a message that isn't read, so it will stay in your outbox forever then.

I would think that it would not be like that...

I'll send you a message and you delete it so we can test.

Sorry, I opened them because I didn't know it was a test PM. You should have put in the first one that the 2nd one was a test. ;)

If you want to test it again, then send another PM (put "Don't open this!!!" in the title) and then I will delete it and report back here.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby chapcrap on Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:14 pm

Forza AZ wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
Forza AZ wrote:
chapcrap wrote:What about if you send someone a message and they delete it without opening it?

That would be the same as a message that isn't read, so it will stay in your outbox forever then.

I would think that it would not be like that...

I'll send you a message and you delete it so we can test.

Sorry, I opened them because I didn't know it was a test PM. You should have put in the first one that the 2nd one was a test. ;)

If you want to test it again, then send another PM (put "Don't open this!!!" in the title) and then I will delete it and report back here.

Done...
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Forza AZ on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 am

chapcrap wrote:Done...

I deleted it without opening. It should still be in your outbox now I think.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby chapcrap on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:55 am

Forza AZ wrote:
chapcrap wrote:Done...

I deleted it without opening. It should still be in your outbox now I think.

Nope. It went to sent messages.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Night Strike on Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:56 am

That's because it moves to the Sentbox as soon as the player opens their Inbox, not when they open the individual PM.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Forza AZ on Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:33 pm

Night Strike wrote:That's because it moves to the Sentbox as soon as the player opens their Inbox, not when they open the individual PM.

Is that so? I'm not concvinced. Let's make a new test.

I will send chapcrap 2 PM's and then he should open 1 and not open the 2nd (but he opens the Inbox). Let's see where the PM's end up in my Send/Out Box.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:51 pm

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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:53 pm

Forza AZ wrote:
Night Strike wrote:That's because it moves to the Sentbox as soon as the player opens their Inbox, not when they open the individual PM.

Is that so? I'm not concvinced. Let's make a new test.

I will send chapcrap 2 PM's and then he should open 1 and not open the 2nd (but he opens the Inbox). Let's see where the PM's end up in my Send/Out Box.

I am pretty confident that it says in the 'outbox' until the individual PM has been opened, regardless of whether you have visited your inbox (or any folders you may have set up for delivery).


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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby MudPuppy on Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:29 pm

I'm pretty sure Night Strike is right on with this one: It goes from outbox to sent once the recipient opens their inbox, regardless of whether they actually do anything with the PM itself.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby chapcrap on Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:13 pm

Forza, I opened the first PM and have not touched the other. What say you?
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Viceroy63 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:20 am

No; It has not been read yet by the person that you sent it to. When the message is read by that person, it then disappears from the "Out" box and appears in the "Sent" box.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby Forza AZ on Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:01 am

chapcrap wrote:Forza, I opened the first PM and have not touched the other. What say you?

They are both in the Send-box now, so indeed only opening the Inbox will make all PM's go to the Send-box no matter if they have been read.
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Re: Sitting in Outbox. Is it sent or not?

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:01 am

According to phpBB's official documentation: http://www.phpbb.com/support/documentat ... ser_pm.php

Sent messages will appear in either the Outbox or the Sent messages folder. As long as the recipient(s) have not yet read the message, it will stay in the Outbox. As soon as someone reads the message it will be archived to the Sent messages folder. If the administrator allows it, you can edit messages after sending them as long as they are in the Outbox and the recipients have not yet read them.


It does not say anything about opening the inbox, but specifically mentions the message.


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