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France BJS [NEW MAP 2.0]

Postby DJENRE on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:12 pm

"REGIONS" : France is divided in 27 "Régions": 22 In FRANCE and 5 overseas (called DOM: "Départements d'outre-mer"= overseas departments).
"DEPARTEMENTS": Regions are subdivided in 96 "Départements" (101 with DOM) : Circle on map
"PREFECTURES" Each "région" has a head department called "Préfecture". Underlined circle on map
Note that DOM are "régions" with only one "département". They count for both. DOM are on the side
France also have TOM ("Territoires d'outre-mer" = overseas territories) but they are not included in that map.

"List of Régions", "Départements" & "Préfectures"
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All right, this is the new design for France Bamboo Jack style.

I have to do the bonuses and set the airports but you can already see the new design and let me know about:

MAP 2.0
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This is the new map : FRANCE: BAMBOO JACK STYLE

Total of territories: 114 (101 "départements" + 13 airports: one is missing in ALSACE on the map)
"Régions" can be entered only by their "préfectures" (underlined circles) or by airports (Airports can attack each other).
Préfectures can attack adjacent 'préfectures', or 'départements' in their own 'région'.
Airports are in 'préfectures' except for Paris (Roissy-CdG = 95) and Nice (06). Airports can only attack one territory in the 'région' they belong to.
Airports are territories and reset to neutral after playing.
22 starting points in total. Starting points start with 5 troops (Maybe we could set 3 troops with a + 2 autodeploy too)

DOM (5 territs on the side) start neutral and are +3 or +5 autodeploy...(I don't know yet). No ports anymore.
Bonus will be set later. There will be region bonuses (all territ in the same region = bonus) and colored bonus (hold 'préfectures' of the same color = bonus)

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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:13 pm

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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:13 pm

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Re: France Relief

Postby Riskismy on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:36 pm

ah. Here we are. 2 threads no less ;-)
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Re: France Relief

Postby Riskismy on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:49 pm

I like it, but I guess I'm easy to please ;-)

Does ports and airports connect to a specific Département? Some of those on the Mediterranean seem to float about by themselves, it seems. I guess they'd have to, to make sense :-s

Maybe the airports could bombard or attack more frivolousness?

Last but certainly not least, what software are you using to draw this in?
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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:51 pm

Riskismy wrote:ah. Here we are. 2 threads no less ;-)

Yes, was a mistake in editing my posts or something with my double screen...
I never did a double thread..lol. Double post maybe but double thread, never. :D


Riskismy wrote:hm. Well, personally I wouldn't mind 10 maps of France, but it does seem odd that you at first say you're aware there's a geographical map of France already, and then continue to to say that this is going to be a geographical map of France. You do mention history, but I can't quite relate - maybe I should go look at that existing map.

Either way, maybe you could provide a map of those 94 "Départements" and 21"Régions", even if just from their home department or some such? Would help a lot.


About France map, there is two maps on conquer club : FRANCE (geographical) and FRANCE 1789 (Historical)

Riskismy wrote:I like it, but I guess I'm easy to please ;-)

Does ports and airports connect to a specific Département? Some of those on the Mediterranean seem to float about by themselves, it seems. I guess they'd have to, to make sense :-s

Maybe the airports could bombard or attack more frivolousness?

Last but certainly not least, what software are you using to draw this in?


1) yes airports and ports belong to 1 département and not the whole region : I making updates often and I'll do that so check later.
There are not floatting by themselves, they are where I had place to put them firstly. And for two in atlantics, there were firstly a port and I changed it for airport. But remember it's just to see gameplay, I will change position for the circle, airport and ports to have a nice map, but connections will remain the same.
2) but they won't bombard anything. Anyway, I'll think of that but it was not my first idea.
3) I used paint :D , yes I know but my old software ran out of date and I'm looking for a good freeware where I could do some better and quicker work so if you have a link, feel free to add it there.
I'm looking for a FREEWARE, where I could easily work on images (and not one to use as testing only for a month!!!)
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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:28 pm

UPDATED with a new map including DOM = 5 more territs + 5 more airports + autodeploy gameplay
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Re: France Relief

Postby kengyin on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:23 pm

if these territories are based on the real numbered provinces of france then wouldnt it be better if thats how the territories are shaped? rather than as circles, in my opinion those are better for abstract maps and like space based maps etc heres a map
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Re: France Relief

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:12 am

Well... arguably France 1789 isn't very historic because Nice and Savoy are part of France when they weren't part of France at that period of time.

But overall, I agree with Kengyin, something with actual territorial borders suits this idea much better than balls and lines... the map he supplied is actually quite suitable. I think army numbers might fit in most of those regions and the ones where they don't, pointer lines or something could be used. Paris would still need the inset though. Actually, you might be able to even enlarge France some and give yourself some more room.

As for the airports and ports... its too much I think. I'm leaning in favor of a more standard gameplay style as proposed by Kengyin. Maybe a few sea connectors.
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Re: France Relief

Postby natty dread on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:14 am

As for the airports and ports... its too much I think. I'm leaning in favor of a more standard gameplay style as proposed by Kengyin. Maybe a few sea connectors.


We already have a standard gameplay map of France. Do we really need another?
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Re: France Relief

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:21 am

Yeah, but neither really look like France. If anything, maybe the departments/regions scheme could work. Regions border all departments and regions border depicted regions.
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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:06 pm

kengyin wrote:if these territories are based on the real numbered provinces of france then wouldnt it be better if thats how the territories are shaped? rather than as circles, in my opinion those are better for abstract maps and like space based maps etc heres a map
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First, see that on your map, there is no Corsica.... If I made a french map, I want it real!!!
And second, can we use it? (copyright) so I think we have to leave that one. ;)
And be sure I browse the web before I choosed my map (I checked about 200 maps), and that's the nicer one I had (This is one I made at school many years ago)


Industrial Helix wrote:Well... arguably France 1789 isn't very historic because Nice and Savoy are part of France when they weren't part of France at that period of time.

Yes I know, I'm from Nice actually ;). And if you want to argue and because of the post from natty_dread,
natty_dread wrote:We already have a standard gameplay map of France. Do we really need another?


It's not France at all...(please note I told first line of my thread I didn't want to tell anything about it, but now we are). Where have you seen mountains in the middle of FRANCE? Alps maybe... Or Auvergne Volcanos, but 100 000 years ago, or maybe it's french before Plate tectonics, when it was pangea :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And I don't know haw he splitted bonuses... They are no region nor departments....This guy never went in France I presume.


Industrial Helix wrote:As for the airports and ports... its too much I think. I'm leaning in favor of a more standard gameplay style as proposed by Kengyin. Maybe a few sea connectors.


We need a way to cross mediterranean and reach corsica. And also a way to reach DOM if we set DOM on that map. See second map given.
Also note that everything is perfectly real on my map : Number of 'régions', number of 'départements', major ports and major airports with their actual names and location....
One more thing about the circles, there is only number of the 'départements' (real numbers we use instead names on driving licence, passport, zipcode, adresses.... in France) to let more room for troops but in the ACTION TAB, when u will choose your département, you will have for example :

2011-03-07 03:04:32 - DJENRE assaulted 56-Morbihan from 29-Finistère and conquered it from xxxxx

Real names of Départements will appears only in ASSAULT LOG. Régions names will appears in bonus tab on map.
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Re: France Relief

Postby DJENRE on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:07 pm

And also, First French map really upset french players, and if anyone doubt on it, I gonna bring some players to show you a new french map is necessary.
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Re: France Relief

Postby natty dread on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:17 pm

DJENRE wrote:And second, can we use it? (copyright)


Of course you can't use that exact image (for more reasons than copyright) but no one can claim copyright for real-world geographical areas.
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Re: France Relief

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:36 pm

Yeah, what Natty said. Copyright. But the image is about perfect for small map size and most of the territories have space for legible names that fit and the army numbers... I'd say just throw it in photoshop and trace it. Spice it up a bit... add Corsica with fudged geography or as an inset.
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