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MrBenn wrote:When this was discussed 15 months ago, there was some mild concern about points inflation, and that the highest scores on the leaderboard would eclipse 6000 points. Since the adjustment to the freestyle double-turn rule, it looks like some of the very highest scores have begun to level off (the highest score right now is 5099).
The key things for me, would be the addition of ranks at the lower end of the scale (because all cooks are not all equal), and more steps along the way to help people aim for realistic goals.
When I have some spare time (haha), I might revisit the proposal above and tweak it a bit...
MrBenn wrote:Some time ago (a really long time ago), I put a lot of thought into possible new rank boundaries, names and possible icons etc... I'll have a dig around and see if I can find it...
edit: and here it is, all the way back from July 2008:
MrBenn wrote:Some time ago (a really long time ago), I put a lot of thought into possible new rank boundaries, names and possible icons etc... I'll have a dig around and see if I can find it...
edit: and here it is, all the way back from July 2008:
Mr Changsha wrote:I was thinking of your proposal when I made the thread...
We are in agreement on the top end, however, I felt at the time (and still feel) that you added too many ranks at the lower end. Also, I want to push more players into the ranks (Cfc and below).
Interestingly the poll is looking like an exact split between members who think I'm right on that point and those who think I'm completely, entirely wrong!
Georgerx7di wrote:Err, excuse me mrBenn, but ensign is an officer. Should be ranked just above chief warrant officer. Also I don't think "lance sergeant" or "corporal first class" exist in any military that I know of.
HapSmo19 wrote::lol: @ Conscientious Objector
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jleonnn wrote:Actually I quite like MrBenn's proposal. I think there are too few ranks and the 500 pts gaps between colonels, majors, brigaiders and generals are too much. We should add a few ranks to fill in those HUGE gaps...
MrBenn wrote:You have to bear in mind that I did all this research 15 months ago. From the reading I did, I got the impression that an Ensign was the lowest ranked officer, and the person who carried the flag (hence the name). I guess I could be mistaken, or the the title means different things for different national armies?? Although I do think it hasn't been in general use for some time??
Lance Sergeant is equivalent to Corporal 1st Class. I think that Lance Sgt is an outdated rank from the British Army - and we already have a CC rank of Corporal 1st Class. These names were added in to help give some additional 'steps' that I mentioned above.
Mr Changsha wrote:As of today, 17% of CC's finest are ranked at officer or above and a whopping 11% of players are either lieutenants or captains.
Senior officers (colonel and above) make up 1.6% of the rankings while the brigadiers and up make up .5%.
7% of current players are cooks..too many cooks and not enough soliders it seems to me!
Fact is, we have too many officers.
How about we make 2,000 points the cut off for lieutenant? This would give us a 5% officer base..which seems a bit more reasonable to me.
CC could add in levels of NCO's to cover 1,600 to 2,000 and I would like to see something like...
800 = Cadet
900 = Private
1100 = Private 1st Class
1300 = Corporal
1400 = Corporal 1st Class
1600 = Sergeant
1800 = Sergeant 1st Class
1900 = Sergeant Major
2000 = Lieutenant
2300 = Captain
2500 = Major
3000 = Colonel
3500 = Brigadier
4000 = General
4500 = Field Marshall
I also adjusted the lower end, as it is equally ridiculous to have, for example, more sergeants than privates. The 100 point spread of sergeant majors would reflect their rarity in the army..I think it would be quite a nice niche rank to have. Colonel would become a real challenge to aim for, while we could count our true elite (Generals) on two hands.
What say you?
MrBenn wrote:Mr Changsha wrote:I was thinking of your proposal when I made the thread...
We are in agreement on the top end, however, I felt at the time (and still feel) that you added too many ranks at the lower end. Also, I want to push more players into the ranks (Cfc and below).
Interestingly the poll is looking like an exact split between members who think I'm right on that point and those who think I'm completely, entirely wrong!
Funnily enough, I found the original pieces of paper which I sketched out some of these plans.. I'm actually in agreement that some of the score boundaries I proposed were too close - although some of the impetus behind the similar stepped ranks (ie several types of sergeant) was to indicate that they're all at a similar level (ie Sergeant), but that as a player at that level, there's still a set of realistic goals to go for (ie Staff Sgt, SFC, Sgt Major).
As I said before, there;s still room for improvement, but it was something I put a lot of effort into a while ago - and is still a way off from being a perfect solution.Georgerx7di wrote:Err, excuse me mrBenn, but ensign is an officer. Should be ranked just above chief warrant officer. Also I don't think "lance sergeant" or "corporal first class" exist in any military that I know of.
You have to bear in mind that I did all this research 15 months ago. From the reading I did, I got the impression that an Ensign was the lowest ranked officer, and the person who carried the flag (hence the name). I guess I could be mistaken, or the the title means different things for different national armies?? Although I do think it hasn't been in general use for some time??
Lance Sergeant is equivalent to Corporal 1st Class. I think that Lance Sgt is an outdated rank from the British Army - and we already have a CC rank of Corporal 1st Class. These names were added in to help give some additional 'steps' that I mentioned above.
Like I said earlier, there's still plenty of room for discussion
Fruitcake wrote:Mr Changsha wrote:As of today, 17% of CC's finest are ranked at officer or above and a whopping 11% of players are either lieutenants or captains.
Senior officers (colonel and above) make up 1.6% of the rankings while the brigadiers and up make up .5%.
7% of current players are cooks..too many cooks and not enough soliders it seems to me!
Fact is, we have too many officers.
How about we make 2,000 points the cut off for lieutenant? This would give us a 5% officer base..which seems a bit more reasonable to me.
CC could add in levels of NCO's to cover 1,600 to 2,000 and I would like to see something like...
800 = Cadet
900 = Private
1100 = Private 1st Class
1300 = Corporal
1400 = Corporal 1st Class
1600 = Sergeant
1800 = Sergeant 1st Class
1900 = Sergeant Major
2000 = Lieutenant
2300 = Captain
2500 = Major
3000 = Colonel
3500 = Brigadier
4000 = General
4500 = Field Marshall
I also adjusted the lower end, as it is equally ridiculous to have, for example, more sergeants than privates. The 100 point spread of sergeant majors would reflect their rarity in the army..I think it would be quite a nice niche rank to have. Colonel would become a real challenge to aim for, while we could count our true elite (Generals) on two hands.
What say you?
Your ranks do not bear close scrutiny as you have missed out the hidden ranks they represent.
I have placed those details below.
800 (or less) = Proof that there is sometimes a case for eugenics (zeta grade)
900 = Requires constant Savlon attention for knuckles AKA cannon fodder (epsilon grade, requires soma fix daily)
1100 = Normally found at back of class with oddly sloping forehead but good cannon fodder all the same (epsilon grade, requires soma occasionally)
1300 = Also found at back of class reading book, but not realising it is upside down (epsilon grade, no soma)
1400 = Well, we all need good dishwashers (delta grade)
1600 = Struggles manfully to keep up with basic grade (delta+ grade)
1800 = Manages basic grade and looks down nose at 1600 and below (low end gamma grade)
1900 = Wishes they were a 2000 (high end gamma grade, wishes to be a beta)
2000 = Thanks the Lord daily they aren't one of those below (low end beta with delusional moments)
2300 = Knows they are better than those below so ignores the thanking the Lord (typical bourgeois beta)
2500 = Feels comfortable with beta existence.
3000 = Knows they are members of Aristos and normally driven to higher (Alpha grade...of course)
3500 = Has all the attitudes of Aristo and whipping the serfs (Alpha)
4000 = Pretty relaxed because has all the life advantages like skill, intelligence, breeding capabilities etc (Alpha+)
4500 = Sits at top of cc food chain, sometimes incorrectly but an Alpha++ all the same, if only due to cunning and wiliness.
Fruitcake wrote:Mr Changsha wrote:As of today, 17% of CC's finest are ranked at officer or above and a whopping 11% of players are either lieutenants or captains.
Senior officers (colonel and above) make up 1.6% of the rankings while the brigadiers and up make up .5%.
7% of current players are cooks..too many cooks and not enough soliders it seems to me!
Fact is, we have too many officers.
How about we make 2,000 points the cut off for lieutenant? This would give us a 5% officer base..which seems a bit more reasonable to me.
CC could add in levels of NCO's to cover 1,600 to 2,000 and I would like to see something like...
800 = Cadet
900 = Private
1100 = Private 1st Class
1300 = Corporal
1400 = Corporal 1st Class
1600 = Sergeant
1800 = Sergeant 1st Class
1900 = Sergeant Major
2000 = Lieutenant
2300 = Captain
2500 = Major
3000 = Colonel
3500 = Brigadier
4000 = General
4500 = Field Marshall
I also adjusted the lower end, as it is equally ridiculous to have, for example, more sergeants than privates. The 100 point spread of sergeant majors would reflect their rarity in the army..I think it would be quite a nice niche rank to have. Colonel would become a real challenge to aim for, while we could count our true elite (Generals) on two hands.
What say you?
Your ranks do not bear close scrutiny as you have missed out the hidden ranks they represent.
I have placed those details below.
800 (or less) = Proof that there is sometimes a case for eugenics (zeta grade)
900 = Requires constant Savlon attention for knuckles AKA cannon fodder (epsilon grade, requires soma fix daily)
1100 = Normally found at back of class with oddly sloping forehead but good cannon fodder all the same (epsilon grade, requires soma occasionally)
1300 = Also found at back of class reading book, but not realising it is upside down (epsilon grade, no soma)
1400 = Well, we all need good dishwashers (delta grade)
1600 = Struggles manfully to keep up with basic grade (delta+ grade)
1800 = Manages basic grade and looks down nose at 1600 and below (low end gamma grade)
1900 = Wishes they were a 2000 (high end gamma grade, wishes to be a beta)
2000 = Thanks the Lord daily they aren't one of those below (low end beta with delusional moments)
2300 = Knows they are better than those below so ignores the thanking the Lord (typical bourgeois beta)
2500 = Feels comfortable with beta existence.
3000 = Knows they are members of Aristos and normally driven to higher (Alpha grade...of course)
3500 = Has all the attitudes of Aristo and whipping the serfs (Alpha)
4000 = Pretty relaxed because has all the life advantages like skill, intelligence, breeding capabilities etc (Alpha+)
4500 = Sits at top of cc food chain, sometimes incorrectly but an Alpha++ all the same, if only due to cunning and wiliness.
snorri wrote:I think I can go further and tell what these ranks really, really mean:
800 (or less)= Sucks and/or doesn't give a f*ck about the game.
900= Quit because he was losing.
1100= To the person's suprise he won some games.
1300= Won even more games, convinced the dice are rigged and quits the game.
1400= Are all of the other players noobs or what?
1600= Oh I see, they're avoiding those who can play this game.
1800= I decided I like this game and love to play it some more.
1900= Gotta get my score up!
2000= I think I might be addicted to this game. I should probably stop.
2300= Addiction is for coke-heads! LONG LIVE THE INTERWEBS!
2500= I conveniently managed to get all my friend to sign up and then kill them for a couple of games. Way to add points!
3000= I wonder if JOHNNyROCKETS24 will let me into his group...
3500= f*ck that guy, I'm forming my own group. With blackjack and hookers....in fact, forget the group!
4000= hey guess what guys my wife is divorcing me, let's get some feudal war going on!
4500= POINTS FOR THE POINTSGOD! RANKS FOR THE RANKTHRONE!
Mr Changsha wrote:
The view from the top...am I the only one who has noticed that Fc can't go five posts without having to whip something?
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