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72o wrote:Are you sure they are all sixes, or just that you lose 2? I think you exaggerate that the defense always rolls a six against you. The odds discussion we had earlier was specifically about rolling 8 consecutive sixes. If you're talking about just losing a 3v2 roll, the probability of that happening several times in a row is much, much greater.
When computers were first used to generate hands in bridge tournaments, some professional bridge players complained that the computer was making too many "weird" hands - hands with 10 cards of one suit, for example. Suddenly these hands were appearing more often than players were used to when cards were shuffled by hand. The players assumed that the computer was doing something wrong. But it turns out that it's humans who hadn't been shuffling enough [7 times] to make the decks really random and have those "weird" hands appear as often as they should.
RADAGA wrote:LOL! thats new. the real uniform regular cubes we know as 6-sided dice are not random, now, only computer-born generated or collected, gathered, classified and manipulated) are.
slowreactor wrote:I quote this directly from my stats book:When computers were first used to generate hands in bridge tournaments, some professional bridge players complained that the computer was making too many "weird" hands - hands with 10 cards of one suit, for example. Suddenly these hands were appearing more often than players were used to when cards were shuffled by hand. The players assumed that the computer was doing something wrong. But it turns out that it's humans who hadn't been shuffling enough [7 times] to make the decks really random and have those "weird" hands appear as often as they should.
Yes, I know dice and cards are two different subjects. However, the principle behind the two are the same. Simly put, the longer you shake a dice, the more random it will be. However, we all know that most people won't leave it in their hands for more than 2 seconds, especially when you're doing 50 v 40 on the board,and you want to get it over with.
ubersky wrote:The issue with probability is that you can calculate what "should" happen all you want, but it has little to do with what "actually" happens.
Probability Theory
Dice
Sampling Equiprobably with Dice
IMHO, any sampling size short of something in the 100's of thousands of dice rolls would be trivial.
[ur=http://www.random.org/analysis/]Random.org Analysis Page[/url]
RADAGA wrote:Game 5635911
Another EIGHT 3x1 loss in a row, this is the second one in this WEEK.
This is enough for anyone stopping believing the "random" attribute.
Explain that...
trinicardinal wrote:RADAGA wrote:Game 5635911
Another EIGHT 3x1 loss in a row, this is the second one in this WEEK.
This is enough for anyone stopping believing the "random" attribute.
Explain that...
No.... you're right. The site's dice were just programmed to hate you. Nothing to do with over 18000 people playing between 1 and about 175 games during each day... each rolling oh I don't know say a total of 15 dice per game per day..... let's see that's conservatively about 21 million dice rolls a day?? People are invited to correct my maths here...I'm kinda guessing.... But I wouldn't expect to see streaks either with those figures,... I mean that just can't be random then can it?
RADAGA wrote:trinicardinal wrote:RADAGA wrote:Game 5635911
Another EIGHT 3x1 loss in a row, this is the second one in this WEEK.
This is enough for anyone stopping believing the "random" attribute.
Explain that...
No.... you're right. The site's dice were just programmed to hate you. Nothing to do with over 18000 people playing between 1 and about 175 games during each day... each rolling oh I don't know say a total of 15 dice per game per day..... let's see that's conservatively about 21 million dice rolls a day?? People are invited to correct my maths here...I'm kinda guessing.... But I wouldn't expect to see streaks either with those figures,... I mean that just can't be random then can it?
So if I go to Vegas, where there are over 18.000 playing dice games at any day, I can guarantee I will have two streaks of eight wins in a row, even if I, myself, only roll twice.
just because there are a hundred million people rolling dice it does not mean a given subject will expect more unusual results than others.
PROBABILITY FOR ONE GIVEN PERSON TO EXPERIENCE A GIVEN NUMBER IS DUE TO HIS, AND HIS ROLLS ALONE.
To say otherwise is to assume that one guy who plays only 1 ticket a day will have greater chances to win the lottery the more poeple around him play.
RADAGA wrote:The probability of my NEXT roll to be a 1 is 1/6
BUT he probability of getting 100 1´s in a row is not 1/6
Night Strike wrote:RADAGA, you have 1/3 of the posts in this thread, yet nothing has ever changed. You don't listen to the people teaching you about math and probability, yet you're not convincing anyone that the site is broken. What are you hoping to gain by continuing to post in this thread? The only thing I can see is to get your post count up. Shit-dice happen. Get over it or leave are your only two options.
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