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Postby natty dread on Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:17 am

http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-insulting ... ricks-day/

From an article called "8 insulting ways people act Irish on St. Patrick's day":

#7. Call It "St. Patty's Day"

Every time someone calls it "Patty's" they prove they can't get through 24 hours without thinking of hamburgers. Paddy is short for Padraig (even though the d is silent in some dialects). Pat is short for Patrick, which is an English name. You might be aware of a slight history between the two countries. It still sort of works, but it would be like calling Independence Day "Super Happy Funtime Discount Fireworking Celebration!" You get the idea, but you're still naming one nation's celebration based on the language practices of a different nation with a history of causing your compatriots to be blown up by small, badly made explosives.


So, the question is: is CC racist towards Irish people?

Discuss.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby sundance123 on Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:48 am

saint and day are irish words now?

In irish it is 'La le Padraig' but nobody gives a toss really

that article should be called "8 ways people act on St. Patrick's day" cos it covers just about everything.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Sniper08 on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:05 am

natty dread wrote:http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-insulting-ways-people-act-irish-st.-patricks-day/

From an article called "8 insulting ways people act Irish on St. Patrick's day":

#7. Call It "St. Patty's Day"

Every time someone calls it "Patty's" they prove they can't get through 24 hours without thinking of hamburgers. Paddy is short for Padraig (even though the d is silent in some dialects). Pat is short for Patrick, which is an English name. You might be aware of a slight history between the two countries. It still sort of works, but it would be like calling Independence Day "Super Happy Funtime Discount Fireworking Celebration!" You get the idea, but you're still naming one nation's celebration based on the language practices of a different nation with a history of causing your compatriots to be blown up by small, badly made explosives.


So, the question is: is CC racist towards Irish people?

Discuss.


honestly before today ive never heard of someone calling it patty's day its always been called Paddys day, atleast it has been here in ireland. Im sure CC will correct their mistake and change the title.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:20 am

"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality. So racism has no place in the discussion.

If you wish to discuss the negative cultural stereotypes thats another matter altogether. I am Irish and hate the holiday as it has become an excuse to get drunk and act stupid.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Sniper08 on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:30 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality. So racism has no place in the discussion.



i think he meant discriminate


Iron Butterfly wrote:I am Irish and hate the holiday


then you arent irish as no one hates this day in ireland. since your flag says american im gonna assume your one of the americans that has an irish ancester and thinks they are irish because of it.

Iron Butterfly wrote:it has become an excuse to get drunk and act stupid.


no thats a saturday night
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Timminz on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:42 am

I only entered this thread to chastise you for spelling Paddy wrong, but now I see I don't need to. Carry on.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby natty dread on Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:45 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Robinette on Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:53 am

natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


:D ohhhh, burn on the butterfly... :lol:
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:31 am

natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby natty dread on Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:34 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.


Ignorance is stupidity.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:37 am

natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.


Ignorance is stupidity.


Cant we just have some beers and settle our differences
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby natty dread on Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:43 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.


Ignorance is stupidity.


Cant we just have some beers and settle our differences


Are you buying?
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:15 pm

natty dread wrote:
Are you buying?


Yes Ill make sure that if you two fly to bumfuck Maine, then you'll drink free the whole time
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby natty dread on Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:44 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Are you buying?


Yes Ill make sure that if you two fly to bumfuck Maine, then you'll drink free the whole time


Whoa, wait wait wait, whoa.

You mean you don't live in Ireland?

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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby pmchugh on Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:48 pm

Oh Father why...
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby army of nobunaga on Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:21 pm

I think its these sort of petty or (peddy?) arguments that spoil all good times in life.

The irish should be proud to have a day in their name that takes one of the worlds leaders population through a drunken embarrassing night that they try to forget for the rest of their lives, each year. Even if it was called something ridiculous ,like St Iridiumlands day, erroneously- why take offense? Its in your honoooor
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:02 am

natty dread wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Are you buying?


Yes Ill make sure that if you two fly to bumfuck Maine, then you'll drink free the whole time


Whoa, wait wait wait, whoa.

You mean you don't live in Ireland?

THE WHOLE WORLD IS A LIE


True story Natty, sorry to shake up you're whole world. I'll let you have some time to some this all in and then well have a talk k?
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:21 am

natty dread wrote:http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-insulting-ways-people-act-irish-st.-patricks-day/

From an article called "8 insulting ways people act Irish on St. Patrick's day":

#7. Call It "St. Patty's Day"

Every time someone calls it "Patty's" they prove they can't get through 24 hours without thinking of hamburgers. Paddy is short for Padraig (even though the d is silent in some dialects). Pat is short for Patrick, which is an English name. You might be aware of a slight history between the two countries. It still sort of works, but it would be like calling Independence Day "Super Happy Funtime Discount Fireworking Celebration!" You get the idea, but you're still naming one nation's celebration based on the language practices of a different nation with a history of causing your compatriots to be blown up by small, badly made explosives.


So, the question is: is CC racist towards Irish people?

Discuss.

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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby generalmighty on Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:54 am

St Pattys day is a naff name (and it's short for Patricia in Ireland) but its users think that, like Paddy, it derives from St Patricks day, it's 'proper' name, a least in English. So saying St Patty is no more 'racist' than saying St Paddy or, indeed, St Patrick. Its just silly. Theres a lot more proper Irish people (ie were actually born in Ireland and have ever lived there) in England than in the US and I've never heard an Irish person refer to it as St Padraigs day. I'm sure there are Irish people who speak Gaelic who call it that but my point is that saying St Patrick is normal for the Irish here and in Ireland and is not perceived as at all racist. So saying Paddy isnt either as the name Paddy comes from the common shortening for Patrick. I've met quite a few Paddys and as far as I know they were all Patricks. There's a lot more Patricks in Ireland than Padraigs and so most people called Paddy are really Patricks, not Padraigs.

Small, badly made explosives? Clearly the writers knowledge of Ireland/UK is dodgy in several areas.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby AAFitz on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:39 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality. So racism has no place in the discussion.

If you wish to discuss the negative cultural stereotypes thats another matter altogether. I am Irish and hate the holiday as it has become an excuse to get drunk and act stupid.


Unlike other holidays?

People who want to get drunk and act stupid....dont usually need much of an excuse.

In this case, their puke and clothes just happen to be the same color.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby AAFitz on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:46 am

natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.


Ignorance is stupidity.


Ignorance is not having learned something.
Stupidity is not being able to learn something, typically basic.

The terms are completely subjective though.

You will always be ignorant to some and some ignorant to you.
You will always be stupid to some, and some stupid to you.

Its ignorant to not know that the phrase, "Ignorance is stupidity" is both ignorant, and stupid......and....ironic.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby IR1SH ACE on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:47 am

top of d mornin te ye....to be sure to be sure.....been drinkin pints of de black stuff...hic...happy St. Patty's/Paddy's/Patrick's Day....who cares just drink..

they should just call it Happy Irish Day... :D
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby natty dread on Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:47 am

AAFitz wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Irish" is not a race it is a nationality.


Pedantry is not a flaw, it's a disability.


So is ignorance.


Ignorance is stupidity.


Ignorance is not having learned something.
Stupidity is not being able to learn something, typically basic.

The terms are completely subjective though.

You will always be ignorant to some and some ignorant to you.
You will always be stupid to some, and some stupid to you.

Its ignorant to not know that the phrase, "Ignorance is stupidity" is both ignorant, and stupid......and....ironic.


What's ironic is that you took my post seriously...

Maybe you're just too ignorant about the stupidity inherent in implying stupidity for something you're yourself ignorant about.
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby ben.cleuch on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:30 pm

Does it all really matter if he was either Roman or Welsh?
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Re: St. Patty's Day

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:52 pm

IR1SH ACE wrote:top of d mornin te ye....to be sure to be sure.....been drinkin pints of de black stuff...hic...happy St. Patty's/Paddy's/Patrick's Day....who cares just drink..

they should just call it Happy Irish Day... :D


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Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (2)
Fog of War Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3)
General Achievement (4) Clan Achievement (7) Training Achievement (3) General Contribution (7)


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