Conquer Club = Fascist State?

[Limey Lyons]

Hello Limey Lyons,

You have received a formal disciplinary warning.

Issued by: king achilles

Comment:

Your given ratings has been brought to our attention and as you say, "1 star is now my standard scorehanding". You do not use the ratings system to get back at it or use it for your own personal enjoyment. Do not give out random ratings or hand out ratings which lacks or no basis at all.

This improper use of the ratings system is strictly prohibited and let this serve as a warning. We do not want to be forced to take away this privilege from you.


Regards,
The Conquer Club

Re: Disciplinary Measures

Sent at: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:10 am
From: Limey Lyons
To: king achilles
Please direct me to where the feedback rules publicly reside and i will comply. I can currently find no such rules on this site and don't see why i can't interpret the feedback system as i see fit.

Best,

Limey Lyons

Re: Disciplinary Measures

Sent at: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:08 pm
From: king achilles
To: Limey Lyons
Common sense dictates on how to properly use the ratings. Please re-read our instructions page about the ratings. This is not something that you can freely give without any logical thinking or to be abusive for.

http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?m ... tructions5

Whenever leaving ratings, use caution and good judgement. You are responsible for the ratings that you leave and they become a permanent part of the other member's record, so be sure to leave only fair and factual ratings that relate to the member's behaviour in the game.

You, on the other hand, is consistently giving ratings just to get back on certain players or just for your own amusement. The ratings is there for a purpose. Continue with this path and it will be taken away from you. If someone gave you a bad rating in the past, foe him and move on. You are not the only member who got something like that. Dragging it by giving everyone the same thing just to prove your point will only backfire on you. So play nicely and abide by the rules.

Re: Disciplinary Measures

Sent at: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:27 am
by Limey Lyons
Frankly, this smacks of fascism.

Many people leave 5s (or 1s) for no good reason (in my opinion), is this then abuse? Yet you do not seek to censor others.

There is nothing fictional about leaving 1 star ratings, therefore they ARE factual.

In my opinion my ratings ARE fair. As they are MY ratings no one can contradict this. My ratings FAIRLY represent my opinion.

I never leave feedback 'to get back' at someone. If anything my ratings are extremely consistent.

If conquer club chooses to censor me then they are hypocrites and fascists.

Kind Regards,

Limey Lyons

[gdeangel]

Answer to your subject line: about a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10.

[yeti_c]

Well done - congratulations on showing your maturity level with the last comment...

If conquer club chooses to censor me then they are hypocrites and fascists.

C.

[Dancing Mustard]

Hear hear!

While I don't personally hand out all-1's myself (without good cause). I wholeheartedly support your move away from this ridiculous idea that anything other than straight-5s is an indication that the rated player is a devil-worshipping paedophile.

I'm sick of hearing people complain that "Player X rated me a four for attitude! My world is over!", or "I got rated 1 for gameplay! What do I do?". If that's what they think you deserve, that's what you deserve; your average score is irrelevant, and your opinion of how you did is irrelevant. The ratings system is for comments both negative and positive, without that it'd be useless.

You think your rating is unjustified? PM the rater and talk about it with them.
They won't change it? Forget about it, shut up, grow up, move on. Go play more games and get high ratings from other players, that'll soon balance out your isolated 1-score.

There's a really vulgar attitude that has developed since nu-ratings were implemented. So many players simply expect to be ranked all-fives just for showing up to a game and cry when they get anything different. It's ridiculous that everybody here is ranked over 4 and that 5-star seems to be regarded as 'average'. That mindset is ludicrous and invalidates the whole purpose of a rating system.

Also, if we're having an unregulated feedback system, then can mods please stop wasting their time catering to a vocal minority who insist on howling whenever they feel unfairly rated? The whole reason we made the switch was to free up mod-time so you could focus on mor important aspects of this site. If you're going to continue running around and catering for people who simply can't cope with a single mildly critical rating, then let's just accept this new system has failed in its purpose and go back to a system where everybody got to explain their ratings in their own words.

There. Rant over... but this "anything lower than 5 stars is what you give to Hitler" mentality needs to be addressed.

[PLAYER57832]

No, no yeti .. he simply made a mistake and posted in the wrong thread.

HERE is where it should go:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=69367

[e_i_pi]

If conquer club chooses to censor me then they are hypocrites and fascists.

Kind Regards,

Limey Lyons

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

[Limey Lyons]

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

EXACTLY!!!! Someone understands what i'm getting at!

[e_i_pi]

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

EXACTLY!!!! Someone understands what i'm getting at!

foed

[PLAYER57832]

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

EXACTLY!!!! Someone understands what i'm getting at!

foed

ditto

[sparkyball]

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

EXACTLY!!!! Someone understands what i'm getting at!

foed

ditto

tripled

[yeti_c]

One of the beautiful things about a democracy --- everyone's allowed to think that you're a cock

EXACTLY!!!! Someone understands what i'm getting at!

foed

What a good idea.

C.

[e_i_pi]

That's 4 in 7 minutes. At this rate, he'll be on everyone's foe list by Christmas

[Limey Lyons]

You guys take this site too seriously, you would all definitely get 1s for attitude from me....alas, i suppose you must protect your precious rating somehow.

Kind Regards,

Limey Lyons

[Vace Cooper]

Actually, I kinda want that 1 star from limey, if he'd be so kind. I'll play limey in a game, let him rate me 1 star, and not complain about it.

[Limey Lyons]

Vace,

I may give you 5 though. There's no guarantee.

Best,

Limey

[Jeff Hardy]

i kinda fancy playing limey and getting 1s
limey, you up for it?

[Vace Cooper]

I guess I'll have to give it my worst shot then!

[pimpdave]

It appears, at first glance, that there are TWO SEPARATE BANDWAGONS to jump on in this thread.

However, I am wracked with indecision. Please, restate the benefits and reasoning behind both bandwagons so as to help me make up my mind.

Here is my synopsis so far:

BANDWAGON THE FIRST: Foe Limey Lyons for reasons unstated or clarified, however implied to be as a prophylactic measure against receiving 1s in ratings from the aforementioned possible "foe".

BANDWAGON THE SECOND: Be all contrarian to the other bandwagon, yet appear exponentially less cool than all people who jumped on this bandwagon prior to me, and at least like, 140% less cool than Vace Cooper, who built the bandwagon, and thus rises above the station of mere bandwagon jumper and is instead designated as TRAILBLAZER. This is the truly desired position in this whole debacle.

However of course, there is a third bandwagon no one has considered.

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Please, all commentators, pundits, and VIPs, please restate your positions and reasoning so that I might decide which bandwagon to jump on.

[Limey Lyons]

by pimpdave on Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:46 pm
It appears, at first glance, that there are TWO SEPARATE BANDWAGONS to jump on in this thread.

However, I am wracked with indecision. Please, restate the benefits and reasoning behind both bandwagons so as to help me make up my mind.

Here is my synopsis so far:

BANDWAGON THE FIRST: Foe Limey Lyons for reasons unstated or clarified, however implied to be as a prophylactic measure against receiving 1s in ratings from the aforementioned possible "foe".

BANDWAGON THE SECOND: Be all contrarian to the other bandwagon, yet appear exponentially less cool than all people who jumped on this bandwagon prior to me, and at least like, 140% less cool than Vace Cooper, who built the bandwagon, and thus rises above the station of mere bandwagon jumper and is instead designated as TRAILBLAZER. This is the truly desired position in this whole debacle.

However of course, there is a third bandwagon no one has considered.

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Please, all commentators, pundits, and VIPs, please restate your positions and reasoning so that I might decide which bandwagon to jump on.
It appears, at first glance, that there are TWO SEPARATE BANDWAGONS to jump on in this thread.

However, I am wracked with indecision. Please, restate the benefits and reasoning behind both bandwagons so as to help me make up my mind.

Here is my synopsis so far:

BANDWAGON THE FIRST: Foe Limey Lyons for reasons unstated or clarified, however implied to be as a prophylactic measure against receiving 1s in ratings from the aforementioned possible "foe".

BANDWAGON THE SECOND: Be all contrarian to the other bandwagon, yet appear exponentially less cool than all people who jumped on this bandwagon prior to me, and at least like, 140% less cool than Vace Cooper, who built the bandwagon, and thus rises above the station of mere bandwagon jumper and is instead designated as TRAILBLAZER. This is the truly desired position in this whole debacle.

However of course, there is a third bandwagon no one has considered.

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Please, all commentators, pundits, and VIPs, please restate your positions and reasoning so that I might decide which bandwagon to jump on.

Genius.

[Fruitcake]

It appears, at first glance, that there are TWO SEPARATE BANDWAGONS to jump on in this thread.

However, I am wracked with indecision. Please, restate the benefits and reasoning behind both bandwagons so as to help me make up my mind.

Here is my synopsis so far:

BANDWAGON THE FIRST: Foe Limey Lyons for reasons unstated or clarified, however implied to be as a prophylactic measure against receiving 1s in ratings from the aforementioned possible "foe".

BANDWAGON THE SECOND: Be all contrarian to the other bandwagon, yet appear exponentially less cool than all people who jumped on this bandwagon prior to me, and at least like, 140% less cool than Vace Cooper, who built the bandwagon, and thus rises above the station of mere bandwagon jumper and is instead designated as TRAILBLAZER. This is the truly desired position in this whole debacle.

However of course, there is a third bandwagon no one has considered.

BANDWAGON THE THIRD: Simply ignore and avoid this thread out of fear that someone from either bandwagon will get pissy and give me all 1s out of spite.

Please, all commentators, pundits, and VIPs, please restate your positions and reasoning so that I might decide which bandwagon to jump on.

Well naturally I would follow the example the esteemed leader of the BpBs has set, but then he did get us vengeance-proof umbrella plan. Along with health, dental, and vision.

So I am jumping on the 1 star rating band wagon. I want it now! And then I can respond with something suitable nasty and cutting....as I do generally when I get those levels...after all, I am a 5 star man and no mistake.

[PepperJack]

Limey recently rated me all 1s but was kind enough to warn all players in the game that he would be doing so. He stated that it was in protest of the rating system. While I don't agree with the rating itself, I do appreciate that the "1s across the board" philosophy is the only real protest available to him as not rating at all comes across more apathetic than revolutionary.

I say 1 away, Limey. Theres more than enough blind 5ers to make it irrelevant anyways.

[Frop]

Just don't leave any ratings at all if you can't be bothered.

[negoeien]

Hehe I read this thread with a lot of appetite and loved it.
A lot of clever and witty posts:).
Although I don't agree with limey for just narrow his protest or point of view to just 1 star for evryone it's his right to do so.
And I can follow his ideas and reasoning, and when you think logical you can't do a thing about it, it's perfectly legal.

However I think the post about the flawed rating system is a good point, because let's face facts noone can be a 5 star player and yet evryone has at least 4 except some exceptions. We are all just good guys or most of us are and we just rate without much thinking and just drop three fives all the time, I'm guilty of that too.
I'm interested in how this discusion will progress

[Limey Lyons]

Thank you for your input negoeien. it is appreciated.

[PLAYER57832]

There are quite a few suggestions out there -- somein Bugs and Sugs, some in General Discussion. Why not try posting your ideas there?