Two Sides Mafia: Side A, Endgame, The Old Ways

[safariguy5]

Well mafia, are going to target a vig if he claims, aren't they?

Not if they have reason to believe there are better power roles out there.

What's the benefit of the vig claiming?

That would be clearing Rodion if the vig claims to have targeted Soundman. If the vig claims to have targeted me, no benefit really.That's why instead of requesting an immediate claim I suggested that we spend 48 hours trying to advance the game through other means.

This may sound contradicting: while I don't consider a vig claim necessary anymore, I unfortunately don't think the game has advanced enough for a good lynch to be decided. Slash, prods please?

Well Sully has softclaimed some sort of role that has a night action so far. I don't necessarily want to meta and say whether / would inform all roles they were roleblocked or just the investigative ones, but that's the main piece of information that has come out today.

[jonty125]

Well mafia, are going to target a vig if he claims, aren't they?

Not if they have reason to believe there are better power roles out there.

Yes but if Fred claims vig, then shooting him is a safe bet, with busdrive and doc dead, there isn't much stopping them (the mafia).

[new guy1]

I agree with jonty. I do not believe the vig should claim. But on a related not, I agree with Rodion in the aspect that if we can not push the game on by other means, it may be nessessary.

[shieldgenerator7]

I... didn't get why the vig claiming would be beneficial.

But I do want to hear from Sully, as of currently he is the current lynch target.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I... didn't get why the vig claiming would be beneficial.

But I do want to hear from Sully, as of currently he is the current lynch target.

prod recieved, sorry would have posted but wasnt at school today

anyway i agree sully seems suspicious but right now i really dont have any other thoughts on him

[Victor Sullivan]

Are you wanting me to claim fully? I'm not really sure what you're asking for.

-Sully

[Rodion]

I... didn't get why the vig claiming would be beneficial.

Could, not would.

I've already explained that it could lead to a player being cleared, but after some comments I concluded it most likely won't and dropped the suggestion.

I suppose we could force Victor to claim his role (his name is already claimed), but at this point I'd rather hear from the many lurkers we have. Edocsil has not posted since D2 started, Clever dodged a prod with 2 lines and New Guy also only has 2 lines to account for his D2 production.

[jonty125]

I... didn't get why the vig claiming would be beneficial.

Could, not would.

I've already explained that it could lead to a player being cleared, but after some comments I concluded it most likely won't and dropped the suggestion.

I suppose we could force Victor to claim his role (his name is already claimed), but at this point I'd rather hear from the many lurkers we have. Edocsil has not posted since D2 started, Clever dodged a prod with 2 lines and New Guy also only has 2 lines to account for his D2 production.

I think Clever is the most suspicious from them, but I don't have a case, just gut feeling.

[new guy1]

In the Sully vs VS cases, I think rodion made a better case against VS, but because VS called him out and stated he was third party, I would say thats kind of compelling evidence... I would still like a claim from Rodion, if he thinks enough pressure has been put on him.

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The Official Side A Vote Count:

jonty125 (1 vote) - drunkmonkey
Victor Sullivan (2 votes) - shieldgenerator7, safariguy5

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline Tuesday

[Victor Sullivan]

Claimed on Side B.

And new guy1... Sully = VS = me Am I arguing with myself now?

-Sully

[safariguy5]

Alright, I suppose that claim makes sense. No point in pursuing a lynch here until we see how Side B plays out.

unvote

So what do we want to do on this side? Pressure a submariner?

[edocsil]

Alright, I suppose that claim makes sense. No point in pursuing a lynch here until we see how Side B plays out.

unvote

So what do we want to do on this side? Pressure a submariner?

Couldn't be worse then our current batting avg sadly.

[shieldgenerator7]

UNVOTE Sully's looking more townish right now.

submariners... hmm hmmToasty. WHo should we pressure first? Here's the list:

edoc - pg 18
saf - pg 18
new guy1 - pg 18
rodion - pg 18
jonty - pg 18
/ - pg 18
drunkmonkey - pg 17
clever - pg 17
milkshake - pg 16
soundman - pg 15
pcm - pg 14

as you can see, we're all fairly active. Not much submarine pressure power here

-SG7 ( )

[Victor Sullivan]

Did you just put the mod on your list? Tsk tsk.

-Sully

[drunkmonkey]

Did you just put the mod on your list? Tsk tsk.

-Sully

The mod & the 3 dead people. Confusing as hell.

[Victor Sullivan]

Did you just put the mod on your list? Tsk tsk.

-Sully

The mod & the 3 dead people. Confusing as hell.

Lol. Love ya, shield!

-Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

lshicastr This forum would be nothing without you guys (appreciation repricated)

Yeah I know that confused me too. I was about to make a case on PCM for inactivity and then I remembered he was dead. SO yeah there's no case on inactivites right now because there really are none on this side. I suppose there's none on the other side either but I'll have to check it out

-SG7 ( )

[new guy1]

lshicastr This forum would be nothing without you guys (appreciation repricated)

Yeah I know that confused me too. I was about to make a case on PCM for inactivity and then I remembered he was dead. SO yeah there's no case on inactivites right now because there really are none on this side. I suppose there's none on the other side either but I'll have to check it out

-SG7 ( )

I find it odd that all the talking day one was in this forum and now its all in the other one o.O

[drunkmonkey]

lshicastr This forum would be nothing without you guys (appreciation repricated)

Yeah I know that confused me too. I was about to make a case on PCM for inactivity and then I remembered he was dead. SO yeah there's no case on inactivites right now because there really are none on this side. I suppose there's none on the other side either but I'll have to check it out

-SG7 ( )

I find it odd that all the talking day one was in this forum and now its all in the other one o.O

I find it odd that you're posting for the sake of posting without adding any substance to either.

[new guy1]

I gave my opinion in the other forum. Its not completly useless, just doesnt add anything new, which you can call almost everyone out on that.

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Vote Count:

jonty125 (1 vote) - drunkmonkey

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline tomorrow

[shieldgenerator7]

Okay on this side jonty's getting lynched. I forget why. DM could you remind me?

In the meantime, VOTE NO LYNCH so it's possible we don't have an accidental mislynch.
I'm fine with lynching jonty really but I don't have any evidence against him so I'd rather not lynch him randomly at this point.

-SG7 ( )

[Rodion]

edoc - pg 18
saf - pg 18
new guy1 - pg 18
rodion - pg 18
jonty - pg 18
/ - pg 18
drunkmonkey - pg 17
clever - pg 17
milkshake - pg 16
soundman - pg 15
pcm - pg 14

as you can see, we're all fairly active. Not much submarine pressure power here

-SG7 ( )

I don't think that is the right way of measuring inactivity. How about you check the content of the posts instead? I believe Edocsil only made 1 post here about an inactive lynch being better than our current batting average, but before he made that post he was the most inactive player. For lack of content, also check Something Clever New Guy. I'll try to review them either now or tomorrow morning/beginning of the afternoon.

As far as letting Jonty die, his D2 Side B posts make me think he is the vig/SK that shot me (with Soundman being killed by mafia). We should be able to have more insight into that tomorrow, but I don't think he's mafia so I see no problem letting him live as long as we can define a target by tomorrow.

[edocsil]

I don't think that is the right way of measuring inactivity. How about you check the content of the posts instead? I believe Edocsil only made 1 post here about an inactive lynch being better than our current batting average, but before he made that post he was the most inactive player. For lack of content, also check Something Clever New Guy. I'll try to review them either now or tomorrow morning/beginning of the afternoon.

As far as letting Jonty die, his D2 Side B posts make me think he is the vig/SK that shot me (with Soundman being killed by mafia). We should be able to have more insight into that tomorrow, but I don't think he's mafia so I see no problem letting him live as long as we can define a target by tomorrow.

I haven't been THAT inactive, certainly no worse here than elsewhere. IRL is catching up to me more then a bit.