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aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
MoB Deadly wrote:betiko wrote:You don't give a f*ck anyways, you are third party.
Fuck you. Ive been doing more scum hunting than half the town in this game.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
pancakemix wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:betiko wrote:You don't give a f*ck anyways, you are third party.
Fuck you. Ive been doing more scum hunting than half the town in this game.
Let's not let this get out of hand, you two.
Metsfanmax wrote:betiko wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:betiko wrote:so what were your 3 night actions mets?
I protected Little Witt.
Sorry - I misread that, and thought you said "what was your night 3 action." You already know my N2 action, and on N1, I sent a gift to someone who is no longer in the game.
well if he's no longer in the game i see no reason not to tell us who you sent it to.
spiesr.
And you have now refused to acknowledge whether you received my gift on N2 in multiple consecutive posts, so Vote Betiko. I'll unvote when you respond.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:betiko wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:betiko wrote:so what were your 3 night actions mets?
I protected Little Witt.
Sorry - I misread that, and thought you said "what was your night 3 action." You already know my N2 action, and on N1, I sent a gift to someone who is no longer in the game.
well if he's no longer in the game i see no reason not to tell us who you sent it to.
spiesr.
And you have now refused to acknowledge whether you received my gift on N2 in multiple consecutive posts, so Vote Betiko. I'll unvote when you respond.
Ok, I have been rereading and rereading, trying to make heads/tails of the Betiko/Mets debate. Vote Mets. the blue part struck me as odd.
A. Betiko Responded.
B. He is essencially saying I'm not changing my vote unless you change your story. Why? Because Betiko had already said his gifts were stolen that night. Thus if Betiko responded the way he wanted him to, Mets could then say- He lied about what happened earlier, soooo Lynch all Liars. (Mets has said that he doesn't believe that Betikos gifts were actually "stolen" thus I conclude he wants a different response than My gifts were stolen).
C. Which leaves me with Mets trying to make it so Betiko cannot get rid of his vote, and thus might be lynched at deadline.
D. Mets still hasn't unvoted even though he said that he would once Betiko responds. The fact that Betiko cannot logically state anything else than my gifts were stolen N2 becomes irrelevant from this and later posts. A case of mild forgetfullness? I trow not.
betiko wrote:and I can confirm that someone tried to steal my gifts last night.
vote rishaed
thechuck51 wrote:betiko wrote:and I can confirm that someone tried to steal my gifts last night.
vote rishaed
This looks like the break we've been waiting for. vote rishaed
Metsfanmax wrote:5:59 AM, right after Day 3 starts:betiko wrote:and I can confirm that someone tried to steal my gifts last night.
vote rishaed
6:44 AM:thechuck51 wrote:betiko wrote:and I can confirm that someone tried to steal my gifts last night.
vote rishaed
This looks like the break we've been waiting for. vote rishaed
I recognize that I had an awful misplay by forgetting about betiko's claimed gift stealing, and you either believe me or you don't. But the evidence on these two is staring us in the face.
thechuck51 wrote:betiko wrote:thechuck51 wrote:betiko wrote:I just know that i received a pm telling me all gifts under my tree are gone. Good news is that i didn t have any (unless someone sent any night 2 that got stolen before i even got informed about it) so a roleblocker and a giftsteeler...
then how do you know it was rishaed?
fastposed by MoB
I'm going back to my begining of day 1 case. rishaed joking about mob stealing gifts and being the first one to bring it up. It looked like a very plausible game mechanic, now i know for sure it's part of the game.
unvote this isn't quite the concrete evidence i was hoping for
MoB Deadly wrote:Watch this.... I am taking Betikos exact logic and I am going to simplify it.betiko wrote:
option A:
chuck, betiko and mets are all town (could work but unlikely)
option B:
chuck & mets are scum, betiko is town (my thought)
option C:
chuck is scum, betiko & mets are town (not possible!!!! chuck couldn't have given met's nameclaim)
option D:
chuck & betiko are scum, mets is town (not possible!!!! chuck couldn't have given met's nameclaim)
option E:
chuck, betiko and mets are all scum (could work but unlikely)
Option A: 3 town (not likely)
Option B: Chuck + 1 is scum.
Option C: Almost impossible.
Option D: Chuck + 1 is scum
Option E: almost impossible.
no matter how you break it down, chuck looks scummy. Lets just lynch him. and move on from there.
betiko wrote:By the way: calling edoc for message delivery tonight. I m not quite certain how this works but I want to send a gift to someone and let edoc or Witt know who I m sending it to in private!
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
betiko wrote:you've been all over my back on day 3 because of the gift stealing issue and the fact that I accused witt because I received no notification regarding gifts received after night 2. Witt said he had sent me a gift, I said it wasn't true and voted for him. Then we had all this discussion and realized that if gifts were sent and stolen on the same night the mod wouldn't even mention it, most likely. This has been confirmed today with ani sending a gift to mob, mob having his gifts stolen last night and not aknowledging receiving that gift.
Metsfanmax wrote:anamainiacks wrote:But like spiesr pointed out, we don't know for sure whether betiko's telling the truth about his PM concerning gifts being stolen. If someone had his gifts stolen on Night 1, it would be great if he could corroborate this story too...
What? He never said that his gifts were stolen, at least as far as I can tell. He was asking if that had happened to anyone else. In fact, he's taking the gift stealing possibility quite seriously but now doesn't seem to think that the person who "slipped" and revealed that ability is the one that has it?
Metsfanmax wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:Here is something completely over looked.
Little Witt claims he sent Betiko a gift night one, which Betiko states he never received.
Night two Betiko states he received a PM saying his gifts were stolen. Yet he did not receive a PM his gifts were stolen night one.
Betiko still might have gotten a message saying "all your gifts were stolen" even if he didn't have any, since that's what the intended mechanic ostensibly was.
Before I decide what to do, can we get a vote count? Don't want to accidentally put betiko at L-1 or lynch.
So should we really beleive that you would've forgotten my gifts were stolen the night you've "sent me one"? During yesterday's discussion one of the main facts that would've struck you should you be telling the truth, is that I had said that the gift you supposedly sent me got stolen.
After all, you gave up on protecting the cop just to send me a gift, so I guess me receiving that gift would've been pretty important for you. How could we believe that on the next day you suddenly forgot about it, unless your story is entirely made up?
MoB Deadly wrote:Why are we gambling our vote on mets? Mets cannot be scum without chuck being scum, because chuck is the one who cleared mets before mets claimed.
Option A: If Chuck is mafia, either Betiko or Mets is scum.
Option B: If mets is mafia - Chuck is 100% mafia.
Option C: If Chuck is town, betiko and mets is 100% town.
So lets lynch Chuck so we can narrow it down to 50/50 scum/town. AND we get the probability of getting Option C which clears everybody.
If we mislynch Mets, there is still the possibility that Chuck and Betiko is mafia.
I hope this convinced some people. Im kinda done driving this point any further.
MoB Deadly wrote:If chuck flips town, then no big deal...
betiko wrote:guys I'm starting to be more and more worried of the unlikely option of me, mets and chuck being town... because that possibility does exist and it's been hunting me... supposing this is the case; mets and chuck, please give me scenarios of who mafia can be, I'm willing to listen. Chuck, you are the center of all this. If what you say has a remote chance of being true, you can clear 5 players including yourself and you are down to those options: (3/5) rishaed, IB, ani, mob and gustaf. Please elaborate a few scenarios.
Metsfanmax wrote:Then betiko and chuck, the only two people who had their votes on me, switched to soundman, making it 5-4, and therefore only one person had to be gullible enough to unvote, forcing the runoff between betiko and soundman. The play was a perfectly executed maneuver (though only barely in time) to save betiko, and it worked, incredibly. I no longer have any doubt in my mind that they are scum buddies.
thechuck51 wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:If chuck flips town, then no big deal...
either way you are one step closer to your win condition right? when i flip town, day 5 is going to have 3 mafia, 4 town, and 1 survivor. that puts you in a pretty good spot doesn't it? town is at lylo so you are safe. town can't afford to lynch you and the mafia doesn't need to. A mislynch today pretty much guarantees you a win. vote MoB
I'd rather take our chances at mylo tomorrow then let you lynch a townie today.
fastposted
congrats MoB, looks like you are going to win...
betiko wrote:guys I'm starting to be more and more worried of the unlikely option of me, mets and chuck being town... because that possibility does exist and it's been hunting me... supposing this is the case; mets and chuck, please give me scenarios of who mafia can be, I'm willing to listen. Chuck, you are the center of all this. If what you say has a remote chance of being true, you can clear 5 players including yourself and you are down to those options: (3/5) rishaed, IB, ani, mob and gustaf. Please elaborate a few scenarios.
Also IB we need to learn more from your role, from toymakers and from your night actions. Of course I want to hear from gustaf, but I think it's very likely that he didn't even send a night action since he's gone for so long.
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