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AAFitz wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:YES, we know that this "site" is a private enterprise and you guys can do what you want, including using "bully methods," to win any argument against FLAME WARS. But, is that how REAL private enterprise treats their customers?
yes. many private enterprises protect their customers against being verbally abused as they were commonly in flame wars. In reality most wouldnt have allowed it for so long.
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Woodruff wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
a.sub wrote:yeah we should all stop thinking
use Gen. SToneham as an example
xelabale wrote:please apologise
Woodruff wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
Do "thinking human beings" not hurl insults?
Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
Do "thinking human beings" not hurl insults?
No, hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think.
a.sub wrote:xelabale wrote:please apologise
apologize*
thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Oh my, what the heck. Are we going to police the chat in games?
Guys and gals, we're all basically anonymous, how can anyone be personally insulted? If you got a thin skin like today's moderators, just close your eyes and count to ten. OR, insult the moron back, unless of course it's deserved.
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
Do "thinking human beings" not hurl insults?
No, hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think.
And if one who effectively uses their ability to think chooses to use that ability to hurl insults at those who hurl insults? You do understand, don't you, that stating "rather than act like... you know... thinking human beings, you mean" and "hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think" insult certain people, right? Does this, in turn, mean that you do not effectively use your ability to think?
Woodruff wrote:I know you're quite infatuated with what you believe is your ability to argue in favor of Flame Wars being reinstated, but the fact that you continue to do so using sarcasm and irony is really only making you appear to be someone not to be taken seriously, rather than allowing you to appear to be someone whose interests lie with the success of the site.
xelabale wrote:Well it can't be a correction for obvious reasons - it's just trolling so now I need a second apology. Apologise now.
Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:
Rather than act like...you know...thinking human beings, you mean.
Do "thinking human beings" not hurl insults?
No, hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think.
And if one who effectively uses their ability to think chooses to use that ability to hurl insults at those who hurl insults? You do understand, don't you, that stating "rather than act like... you know... thinking human beings, you mean" and "hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think" insult certain people, right? Does this, in turn, mean that you do not effectively use your ability to think?
I know you're quite infatuated with what you believe is your ability to argue in favor of Flame Wars being reinstated, but the fact that you continue to do so using sarcasm and irony is really only making you appear to be someone not to be taken seriously, rather than allowing you to appear to be someone whose interests lie with the success of the site.
neanderpaul14 wrote:xelabale wrote:Well it can't be a correction for obvious reasons - it's just trolling so now I need a second apology. Apologise now.
Apologize*
xelabale wrote:neanderpaul14 wrote:xelabale wrote:Well it can't be a correction for obvious reasons - it's just trolling so now I need a second apology. Apologise now.
Apologize*
Nope, don't see it... both spellings are correct.
Move along, nothing to see here, let's not lower this to a flame war, despicable.
thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:I know you're quite infatuated with what you believe is your ability to argue in favor of Flame Wars being reinstated, but the fact that you continue to do so using sarcasm and irony is really only making you appear to be someone not to be taken seriously, rather than allowing you to appear to be someone whose interests lie with the success of the site.
That's not really accurate. I am infatuated with my arguments; that is a true statement. Additionally, while it's true that I argue in favor of reinstating Flame Wars, my objections to its removal are entirely based upon the lack of a reason to remove it. In other words, no one has supplied me with a good reason to remove it. Therefore, until I am told not to, I will argue in favor of its reinstatement. I am not using sarcasm and irony in any event.
thegreekdog wrote:I'm simply stating that there was no reason to remove it that I can fathom, apart from certain people not liking the idea of Flame Wars. And to those people I have said, and continue to say, that if you do not like Flame Wars, do not go to the Flame Wars forum.
thegreekdog wrote:I debate with you because you find that people that use the Flame Wars forum are ignorant and/or cannot think.
thegreekdog wrote:Your statement to that effect is ignorant, because there are people who use the Flame Wars forum who are intelligent and well-spoken.
thegreekdog wrote:Additionally, your statement to that effect shows that flaming will go on whether the Flame Wars forum exists or not because, in fact, your statement is a flame.
thegreekdog wrote:Finally, I enjoy Conquer Club. For the most part, I enjoy Conquer Club for the game itself. Secondary to that enjoyment is having dialogue with people from across the world, whether that be in the Much Ado About Nothing forum or Flame Wars. So, if all of the threads on this site were suddenly removed, I would still play the game. Therefore, questioning my motivations is not a valid argument on your part... apparently, since you have nothing further to add as to the legitimacy of removing the Flame Wars forum, you have begun to attack my motivations. That is a tell-tale sign that you are losing the argument.
Woodruff wrote:I certainly agree with you "then don't go there" position, as that is the position I have always personally taken. However, I have seen arguments regarding why Flame Wars was removed (though I don't know that it was from anyone "official"). Frankly, it doesn't help the image that Flame Wars does in fact give to the site. That image almost certainly does cost the site some money (how much I just as certainly have no idea), and I'm pretty sure that is largely the logic that was used in the decision. Many parents wouldn't feel comfortable with allowing their children to frequent a site that included such a forum. Many of those same parents would certainly be willing to pay $25 for a year's entertainment for their child.
ronc8649 wrote:Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:
Do "thinking human beings" not hurl insults?
No, hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think.
And if one who effectively uses their ability to think chooses to use that ability to hurl insults at those who hurl insults? You do understand, don't you, that stating "rather than act like... you know... thinking human beings, you mean" and "hurling insults are not necessary for those who effectively use their ability to think" insult certain people, right? Does this, in turn, mean that you do not effectively use your ability to think?
I know you're quite infatuated with what you believe is your ability to argue in favor of Flame Wars being reinstated, but the fact that you continue to do so using sarcasm and irony is really only making you appear to be someone not to be taken seriously, rather than allowing you to appear to be someone whose interests lie with the success of the site.
Tags: Slow, Deadbeat, Backstabber, Suicider
this is what woodruff has rated me as..........if you look at the games i have played with woodruff, i am in fact not slow, not a deadbeat, nor a backstabber. I AM A SUICIDER! 1 out of 4 isnt bad woodruff(it is actually better than your win rate which is 21%). why is it that you argue for the success of the site, but yet you hurt cc's system by rating people from the forum, and rage, rather than from actual gameplay?
ronc8649 wrote:this is beef that you have with me outside of gameplay woodruff.
ronc8649 wrote:i encourage you to rate people according to gameplay rather than personal vendettas.
ronc8649 wrote:this is yet another reason why flame wars was good to have. rather than rating someone badly, you could have made a thread in flame wars about me. but you chose to go the route of rating someone with no validity.
ronc8649 wrote:nice job spock.
thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:I certainly agree with you "then don't go there" position, as that is the position I have always personally taken. However, I have seen arguments regarding why Flame Wars was removed (though I don't know that it was from anyone "official"). Frankly, it doesn't help the image that Flame Wars does in fact give to the site. That image almost certainly does cost the site some money (how much I just as certainly have no idea), and I'm pretty sure that is largely the logic that was used in the decision. Many parents wouldn't feel comfortable with allowing their children to frequent a site that included such a forum. Many of those same parents would certainly be willing to pay $25 for a year's entertainment for their child.
I would agree with this reason, and I would be fine with it, except that the comfortability of parents is as much affected by in-game chat and the use of foul language in threads other than the Flame Wars forum. I guess that is the crux of my issue - I'm all for making this a family-friendly site. But, there are many, many players that will continue to use foul language in places other than Flame Wars. So, eliminating Flame Wars does not eliminate the problem, in my opinion.
No worries about the other stuff...
Are you sure you're posting in the right forum? In case you've clicked on the wrong URL by accident, you're currently browsing http://www.conquerclub.commpjh wrote:Frankly, I don't see the problem now that flaming is not allowed. My experience is that people are fairly civilized, with the predictable exceptions who are fewer and fewer each day.
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