Version 11.6 FRANCE 2.1

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:27 am

ok thanks you. Great holydays

by **pamoa** on Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:18 am

Title suggestion
France 2.0
as it is larger than the actual one

gameplay
overlaping bonuses are fine to me
but Paris as killer neutral can't be overruled by a bonus as you want it to do
the "umbrella" effect is good (Paris as centre which can attack terrorist which can attack the border of the map)
maybe with a 10 neutral it will slow enough the game and be balanced enough

by **isaiah40** on Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:38 am

Lancelot, before I approve your application for supersize I would like to see an update at the size requested so I can determine if it is needed. AS for going 1400x1200, I would suggest going 1400x1120, this way when you shrink the map down it will be at 1000x800 the max size for the supersize small.

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:59 pm

Ok, here is the requested update on the first message. Dimensions in pixels: 990 x 1400

by **isaiah40** on Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:13 pm

Lancelot du Lac wrote:Ok, here is the requested update on the first message. Dimensions in pixels: 990 x 1400

Sorry but the max height is 1200 on the large. You can make the map 990x1200. Please use the BigImg tag to place your image in do that your medals and such do not cover the map.

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:51 pm

Here are the requested changes:

height : 1200
width : 849

Is this correct?

Lancelot

by **isaiah40** on Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Lancelot du Lac wrote:Here are the requested changes:

height : 1200
width : 849

Is this correct?

Lancelot

Yes the height is correct.

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:17 pm

Version 3 is available on the first topic.

Can you tell me what you think?

Thank you

by **Mishalex** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:40 pm

Great job, i can't wait for testing it
Still missing, a winning condition like:
Hold Paris all the foreign claims + one regional claim for one turn to win the game

or

Hold Bretagne + Normandie + Corse + Savoie to win the game

by **Industrial Helix** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:53 pm

i beleive very few maps respect the actual real life geography in CC. I beleive that when hasbro created risk they didn t shape country/regions based on actual geographical realities. you are free to create a new french map based on it's actual regions.
The mountains are fake as well, this map has been created for a certain gameplay and strategy, if the real geography of a map makes a game unbalanced, gameplay will be more important than actual geography, we are just stating the obvious.

Actually, the hasblo Risk map is based on the world at the time of Napoleon, hence all those general geographies. But yeah, geography needs to give way to gameplay... but that doesn't mean that you can't do a geographically accurate map, or at least be close.

Speaking of altering borders... where do you intend to put the army numbers for Paris, Haut-de-Seine, Val-de-marne and Seine-Saint-Denis? you're going to have to make some more room for them to fit. Your borders won't be 100% accurate then, but if you keep the general shape of the line, it won't be that bad, I think.

by **isaiah40** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:54 pm

You can go a little smaller on the map size by rearranging of your legend items. Something like this and you will end up with a map size of approximately 1304x1172.

Click image to enlarge.

by **betiko** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:55 pm

looks cool!
Isn t there a bit too much for each bonus though? i m afraid that who starts wins on this type of map, mostly in 1vs1.

by **QuikSilver** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:26 pm

In the legend riot in suburbs it's written if we... wasn't suppose to be written if you?

Regardless of some spelling, I think it's a great big map, nice for quad.

For the suburbs bonus, it's +3 to take control of three region of 5 neutral... can it be +1 for a single region around Paris?

by **QuikSilver** on Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:29 pm

betiko wrote:looks cool!
Isn t there a bit too much for each bonus though? i m afraid that who starts wins on this type of map, mostly in 1vs1.

isn't the same thing with First Nation Americas? The BIG one. Or even World 2.1?

I think maybe some region can always be 2 neutral at beginning, like in Celtic Nations (and plenty others)

BTW I love the new legend, more understandable!

by **natty dread** on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:07 am

Looking at the map image, it still seems unnecessarily large for some reason.

Do you really need it to be that large? It looks like there's lots of wasted space... All the territories are so large, it seems to me you could easily make the image smaller.

by **Mishalex** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:11 am

What's up on this one?

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:21 pm

Sorry for the lost time. The Christmas holidays are past I'm back on the subject

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:42 pm

Hi everyone. Happy New Year to all!

Here is the long awaited update.
I reduce the map and the elements of the legend. Which give the following dimensions: 985 x 1004

by **Lancelot du Lac** on Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:12 pm

1. Map Name France 2.0
2. Version 3 [09 jan 2011]
3. Dimension : 985 * 1004

The last update :

Click image to enlarge.

by **Mishalex** on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:27 am

What are the news on this one please?

by **Industrial Helix** on Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:25 pm

this one belongs in the drafting room!

by **spacewrekker** on Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:17 pm

i think it's great and can't wait to give it a go! =D>

by **Industrial Helix** on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:46 pm

Firstly, I think the text in the legend needs to be bigger. I can barely read it.

Next, I'm not entirely clear as to what is going on with Bretagne Is there a separate bonus for it? And furthermore, the names of the territories are impossible to read with that pattern. try putting a glow around the words.

And you should try to fit the word Belfort on the map, You could clip Haut Rhine a little and fit it that way. Which would be much better than a simple 5.

by **isaiah40** on Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:20 am

Rearrange the legend, mini-map and Paris inset like I have done here as an example. You can go a little wider than what is shown here to make sure all the game instructions and such will be clear and easy to read.

Réorganiser la légende, la mini-carte et à Paris en médaillon comme je l'ai fait ici comme exemple. Vous pouvez aller un peu plus large que ce qui est montré ici pour s'assurer que toutes les instructions de jeu et tel sera clair et facile à lire.