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Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:43 pm

Sydney Metro

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Current Version 24
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Original Map
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Why?

Raising the Aussie Flag - patriotism!!! :)
This is the former Sydney 2000 map, that i made several months ago, but was abandoned.

I would like to resurrect it, in a simpler form "classic style" because it was simply too complicated for the minds of most CC players to get around the attacking methods in the Olympic version.

Number of Territories
Parramatta - 6 (now 5)
Ryde - 5
Warringah - 5
Auburn - 5
Inner West - 4
City - 3
Waverly - 4 (now 3)
Bankstown - 4
Canterbury - 5 (was always 6)
Marrickville - 3
Randwick - 7 (now 5)
Rockdale - 4
Hurstville - 4
Total 59 (now 56)

The continents are structured around several of the local government areas in Sydney.
13 continents in total

Unique features
This map obviously uses the harbor as a barrier, but also uses the freeways as a barrier except where there are pedestrian crossings.

This concept of using a pedestrian crossing should not be too complicated for CC players to comprehend.

Uniqueness
Obviously the location.

Let's hope I can get this one into play.
Com'mon Aussie Com'mon!!!

Size:
Small 580w x 548h
Large 750w x 709h
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:46 pm

Is anything happening with the Olympic Park? If not, then i think it would be better as just a map of Sydney.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:55 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:Is anything happening with the Olympic Park? If not, then i think it would be better as just a map of Sydney.


no nothing is happening with Olympic park, but i left it there for no other reason than just a reference as to where it is in the overall scheme of things.
It is not officially a suburb, but it is a region that is very central to sydney, and contains the major sporting venues and Royal Easter Show grounds.
I'd like to leave it there, the maps still plays classically with it in. Call it artistic license. :)
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:59 pm

Well, its a cool army circle! :)
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:02 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:Well, its a cool army circle! :)


Thanks Kaplowitz. :)
The suburb Olympic Park is located in is Homebush Bay.

Some info if you're interested
Homebush Bay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Olympic_Park
List of Sydney suburbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sydney_suburbs
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby edbeard on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:03 pm

Yea I think it'd work.

Though those continent bonuses need major changes obviously.


For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:06 pm

edbeard wrote:For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.


I could be wrong, but i think that if you edit a pre-phpBB3 poll so that you can edit, and you have already voted, then you can get a second vote. Dont take my word for it though!
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby shadowsteel9 on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:06 pm

I like it, it just seems a bit cluttered
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:10 pm

edbeard wrote:Yea I think it'd work.

Though those continent bonuses need major changes obviously.


For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.


yes edbeard....thanks....those are still the old "o0lympic" bonuses....i'll attend to that now and re-work them on a s/sheet.

and yes you can change your vote now.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:11 pm

shadowsteel9 wrote:I like it, it just seems a bit cluttered


too many terts for you shadowsteel9....if so, how many would you like to see on this map?
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:11 pm

edbeard wrote:For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.


You can also set polls where you can check multiple options - like in the game finder.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby shadowsteel9 on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:14 pm

cairnswk wrote:
shadowsteel9 wrote:I like it, it just seems a bit cluttered


too many terts for you shadowsteel9....if so, how many would you like to see on this map?

The number of territories is fine, i would suggest making the map bigger, the bigger it is, the more room you have for your names, and the less cluttered
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:15 pm

That is only the small map
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:16 pm

pepperonibread wrote:
edbeard wrote:For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.


You can also set polls where you can check multiple options - like in the game finder.


so are you for or 'ginst this map pepperonibread??
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Tieryn on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:17 pm

I'm all for this. I've been thinking about doing a Perth map for a while, but that's a fair way down the track :P

My thoughts on graphics are it's a little cluttered. I'd like to see the opera house done as an army circle, like the statue of liberty in the new york map. Colours could perhaps use a bit of updating. Inner west and randwick are pretty close, and hard to distinguish from the water...

I like the use of roads as impassables, but the "pedestrian crossings" look a bit awkward... perhaps foot bridges would be a better idea? I'd like to see it spread out a bit more too... move the bonuses and the "statistics" somewhere else and give yourself a bit of extra room?

Still, lookin good as a starting point, but definitely stuff to be done.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:21 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:That is only the small map


Yes, i can probably loose some legend areas in the upcoming updates to make it a bit smaller. or reduce the number of terts....i think 48 would be the next size down for an 8 player game.
currently at 59.

48 = 2x24, 3x16, 4x12, 5x9+3n, 6x8, 7x6+6n, 8x6

at 48 it might be good for a medium size speed game. :)
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:23 pm

2x16, not 24. There is a third neutral player.

56 is okay too,

2,3x 18+1n; 4x14; 5x11+1n; 6x9+2n; 7x8; 8x7
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:25 pm

cairnswk wrote:
pepperonibread wrote:
edbeard wrote:For those that don't know already, you can actually change your vote in polls now apparently. A nice new feature.


You can also set polls where you can check multiple options - like in the game finder.


so are you for or 'ginst this map pepperonibread??


I'm all for it, cairns... though it would be cool to see a little more Sydney flavor, if it doesn't clutter the map too much :)
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:26 pm

Tieryn wrote:I'm all for this.... I'd like to see the opera house done as an army circle, like the statue of liberty in the new york map.

OK...
Colours could perhaps use a bit of updating. Inner west and randwick are pretty close, and hard to distinguish from the water...
Uh Huh...got you.

I like the use of roads as impassables, but the "pedestrian crossings" look a bit awkward... perhaps foot bridges would be a better idea?

I am going to stick with the pedestrian crossing, as this hasn't been done before on a CC map in play whereas bridges have, and i had foot bridges on the previous attempts and they didn't go down well. me and bridges are not exactly graphically compatable. :wink:

I'd like to see it spread out a bit more too... move the bonuses and the "statistics" somewhere else and give yourself a bit of extra room?
yes, all that will move about of course...i'll see what i can do!!
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:27 pm

pepperonibread wrote:
I'm all for it, cairns... though it would be cool to see a little more Sydney flavor, if it doesn't clutter the map too much :)


can you expand on those "flavours" you have in mind?
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:29 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:2x16, not 24. There is a third neutral player.

56 is okay too,

2,3x 18+1n; 4x14; 5x11+1n; 6x9+2n; 7x8; 8x7


56 eh? OK..i can live with that...reducing it by three from where it is now....

is 56 terts good for speed games though....they must surely take some time to play....wouldn't that be 28 terts each?
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Tieryn on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:29 pm

Sydney flavoured.. hmm.... When you look at the map it needs to be unsmiling and you need to get the impression "This map is too important for you to play on"... (no offence to any Sydneysiders... hey, at least you're not Victorian :P)
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Tieryn on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:31 pm

Also, 56/3=18,2/3 not 18 flat.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby edbeard on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:32 pm

cairnswk, in 2 player games, the territories are still given out in 1/3. The last 1/3 starts neutral.
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Re: Sydney V1

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:33 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:2x16, not 24. There is a third neutral player.

56 is okay too,

2,3x 18+1n; 4x14; 5x11+1n; 6x9+2n; 7x8; 8x7


56 eh? OK..i can live with that...reducing it by three from where it is now....

is 56 terts good for speed games though....they must surely take some time to play....wouldn't that be 28 terts each?

No, only 18, and two neutrals. in a 1v1 game, there is a third neutral player so that you dont start off with too many territories.
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