[GO] Unrated, Unranked, or No Points Games

[The Neon Peon]

The community voted yes, lets see this happen

Might I also mention that you have not managed to come up with a reply to any of the problems I pointed out.

[sailorseal]

The community voted yes, lets see this happen

Might I also mention that you have not managed to come up with a reply to any of the problems I pointed out.

Alright name the problems lets see what I say

[The Neon Peon]

The community voted yes, lets see this happen

Might I also mention that you have not managed to come up with a reply to any of the problems I pointed out.

Alright name the problems lets see what I say

Why don't you read your own thread?

[sailorseal]

The community voted yes, lets see this happen

Might I also mention that you have not managed to come up with a reply to any of the problems I pointed out.

Alright name the problems lets see what I say

Why don't you read your own thread?

Went through the whole thing you only tell em to improve my search skills and that you are not a farmer

[The Neon Peon]

Went through the whole thing you only tell em to improve my search skills and that you are not a farmer

Can you please write a more coherent response? I do not understand what you are saying at all.

[sailorseal]

I read this thread from start to finish. Your "comments" were only regarding farming and my search skills. No suggestions for the suggestion

[The Neon Peon]

1. Separating ranked and unranked games... that defeats the purpose of rank. Rank is how good you are at playing the game. If you separate that, then people will only play on 1 single type of game for rank, and then play all other games as unranked. Right now, if I choose to specialize that much, I give up 99% of the good things about the site. If this suggestion comes through, specialists will be giving up absolutely nothing.

2. If you care so much about score that you do not join some games because you do not want to lose your points, then you have to really rethink a lot of things. If you want to join a game with a friend, go ahead. If you want to join a flat rate 2 man doodle and a cook has started one, you might as well find enjoyment in CC and play it rather than stick to one game type.

3. Unranked games will cause a lot of problems.

Firstly there is the problem of freemium members (not all, but some is enough). You have only 4 games that you can play... you join some unranked games, and every time you no longer have a chance, you simply suicide into the player you like least and then you can play another game. Would be fun to be that other player, Wouldn't it?

Secondly, not all the people on the site are, well... nice. In unranked games, if I don't like you, all I have to do is join your game, throw the game by attacking only you the entire match, resulting in an unpleasant experience for you, and no cost for me. There are a lot of people that do not like someone else on the site, and a heck of a lot of do this since they accomplish their goal of giving you a bad time yet do not lose their points and become cooks like they would these days.

I am not saying that people would stop playing to win, no doubt many people would continue to do so. But even if this is a minority that you encounter every 1 in 20 games, do you think you'll have much fun having someone like I just described above do that to you that often?

Obviously, my comments on your search skills were correct.

The page right before this, all you had to do was scroll up to find this post. I would think that These are comments pointing out problems in the suggestion. I don't seem to find anything in them to do with farming.

[sailorseal]

I don't see how this gives me anything to change

[The Neon Peon]

I don't see how this gives me anything to change

Exactly. If you can't come up with a solution, or some else does not, then these are still serious problems with the suggestion.

[john9blue]

1. Separating ranked and unranked games... that defeats the purpose of rank. Rank is how good you are at playing the game. If you separate that, then people will only play on 1 single type of game for rank, and then play all other games as unranked. Right now, if I choose to specialize that much, I give up 99% of the good things about the site. If this suggestion comes through, specialists will be giving up absolutely nothing.

Most top players already specialize in one game type. People have fun when they win, and lots of people only play game types that they can win. They don't care about the "99%" right now, and they won't when unranked games come out, either. In fact, people could find that they are good at other types of games, and start playing even more.

2. If you care so much about score that you do not join some games because you do not want to lose your points, then you have to really rethink a lot of things. If you want to join a game with a friend, go ahead. If you want to join a flat rate 2 man doodle and a cook has started one, you might as well find enjoyment in CC and play it rather than stick to one game type.

Like I said, some people have fun when they win and when their score is high. They don't have to "rethink" anything. Maybe you find losing to a cook who gets a mixed set on Doodle Earth fun, but most of us don't.

3. Unranked games will cause a lot of problems.

Firstly there is the problem of freemium members (not all, but some is enough). You have only 4 games that you can play... you join some unranked games, and every time you no longer have a chance, you simply suicide into the player you like least and then you can play another game. Would be fun to be that other player, Wouldn't it?

Some freemiums do that now... what's your point? Or did you just fail to realize that?

Secondly, not all the people on the site are, well... nice. In unranked games, if I don't like you, all I have to do is join your game, throw the game by attacking only you the entire match, resulting in an unpleasant experience for you, and no cost for me. There are a lot of people that do not like someone else on the site, and a heck of a lot of do this since they accomplish their goal of giving you a bad time yet do not lose their points and become cooks like they would these days.

Then you foe 'em.

I am not saying that people would stop playing to win, no doubt many people would continue to do so. But even if this is a minority that you encounter every 1 in 20 games, do you think you'll have much fun having someone like I just described above do that to you that often?

Nope. The probability would be lower if you use the foe list. They're wasting their time, too.

[dyrtydog]

for training purpsoses? i realize unrated games may create more games, but so what? Im sure the new server can handle it. It might also create more paid members....

I suggest a check box to make games rated or not

[Fingaz10]

I was thinking....since i have alot of people that i play regurarly with...some way higher levels some way lower....that having an option to set a game to "practice" where no points are at stake and we can larn maps...try strategies etc.

without having to worry about ranks and what not....

[Strife]

Two things:
First, use the form, don't just delete it. It's there for a reason.
Second, use the search button, it has been suggested and rejected.

[Sun Su]

You found a way to practice and try new things without risking ending up as a potato peeler... I think it's a really good idea...

PS - Erick I'd play you more often because I enjoy it... but from 6 pts away from the swords I'm still struggling in this bad losing spiral... and we both know my stats against you where I lose 2/3 of the games... but we're on the way to make a good team playing together.

[campbell555]

I'm all in for a practice game, that is a great way to learn new game without losing points. I'm for it. campbell555

[wolfpack0530]

points are overrated. Way too many of you obsess over your points and rank. Points do not determine skill. If you want to try out new maps, do so. You will probably lose some points along the way, but in the meantime the games you win with a lower rank will yield you more points than the games you win with a higher rank.

It will pretty much even itself out in the end, and since this isnt a gambling site, I think many of you put waaaaay to much stock into the MEANINGLESS points system.

2 months ago 1 had 800 points, now i am a major. I play anyone at anytime. experience is the ONLY deciding factor, the rest (drop + dice) is all luck.

Play your hearts out and dont worry about the points. eventually you will be where you think you belong.

[PLAYER57832]

2 months ago 1 had 800 points, now i am a major. I play anyone at anytime. experience is the ONLY deciding factor, the rest (drop + dice) is all luck.

Experience and the types of games you play. Anyone playing 1 vs 1, is not going to go up as quickly or readily as those playing 8 player or team games, just becuase of how points are distributed and the luck factor.

(that, is in case anyone doesn't know what I mean, in 8 player, you can win 1 and lose 7, but still come out ahead in points, unless the only games you win are against cooks or some such. To go up in 1 vs 1, you have to win not just a majority of games, but you have to win against players who have equal or higher ranks and not lose to many of those who are lower in rank )

[Strife]

2 months ago 1 had 800 points, now i am a major. I play anyone at anytime. experience is the ONLY deciding factor, the rest (drop + dice) is all luck.

Experience and the types of games you play. Anyone playing 1 vs 1, is not going to go up as quickly or readily as those playing 8 player or team games, just becuase of how points are distributed and the luck factor.

(that, is in case anyone doesn't know what I mean, in 8 player, you can win 1 and lose 7, but still come out ahead in points, unless the only games you win are against cooks or some such. To go up in 1 vs 1, you have to win not just a majority of games, but you have to win against players who have equal or higher ranks and not lose to many of those who are lower in rank )

Well, that's not true if you newb farm. But that's true for the most part. I remember when I was prem, I would join massive amounts of speed doodle assassin games(8 players). I would lose like three or four in a row then win two and suddenly I'm lt. again.

[Woodruff]

Experience and the types of games you play. Anyone playing 1 vs 1, is not going to go up as quickly or readily as those playing 8 player or team games, just becuase of how points are distributed and the luck factor.

It's funny that you say that. Since I arrived, I've been a huge 8-player-game player - almost all I try to play. But a bit ago, I started playing almost exclusively 1-vs-1 games (to try to get five wins on every map), and I made it up to Lieutenant. I gave up on that whole plan and am back to playing the big games (because that's what I enjoy), and now I'm back to being a private.

So I have found that my score goes up a LOT playing 1-vs-1 as compared to other games.

[jonka]

Practice games, that don't count for points, so you can learn a map/strategy or just take it easy.

[lord voldemort]

Search is your friend mate
And I doubt it. If you want practice games find some friends that you dont mind losing some points too

[Tupence]

There is also a Map Explorers usergroup, where members play games against each other on maps that they don't know very well, so they can be sure they won't get completely destroyed by an expert. They also play some team games to teach each other new maps.

[owenshooter]

There is also a Map Explorers usergroup, where members play games against each other on maps that they don't know very well, so they can be sure they won't get completely destroyed by an expert. They also play some team games to teach each other new maps.

he doesn't want to lose points... that is the point of this suggestion every single time it is made (usually without a form, just like this one... search is indeed your friend!)... there are plenty of ways to learn maps and strategies that work, but practicing them without losing points is not one of them...-0

[jammyjames]

Concise description:

• have the option to decide whether or not the game will be played for points

Specifics:

• option in start a game, to turn off point scoring for the game

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• no bitching about dice seeing as people wont lose any points
• allows people that just enjoy playing the game for fun to do it without the neccessity of points
• You can have a fun game with low ranked players knowing there is no risk of a huge point cut

Feedback would be nice

[Little Witt]

great idea cause i can help my friends and not lose any points