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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:21 am

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betiko wrote:Viceroy just a question about your sig; what fact do you hold exactly regarding the origins of mankind?


That it did not evolved from lower life forms. That is a fact to be sure and evolution the premise accepted as fact.


How is that possibly a "fact"? What exactly is "factual" about it?
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:24 am

jonesthecurl wrote:Have you had this particular question answered enough times yet?


Apparently not. <sigh>
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby waauw on Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:42 am

Viceroy63 wrote:Far from believing that fossils are rare, Darwin also considered it odd that "Intermediary Species" fossils were so nonexistent. We are talking of hundreds of millions of years here, so if on average, only one one bone for every year is fossilized that is still hundreds of millions of bones. So if a snake only has say 100 bones altogether, then these three walking snakes represents 300 years of time and that would be rare enough. One snake on average for every hundred years; But only Three walking snakes out of millions of years???

Come on people, Think about it? In the field of Archeology, "Size does not matter!"


As explained before, there are good reasons why snakelike creatures have been found less. As I already said, the bones of a snake are too soft compared to those of some other animals to get fossilized as easily.
And to assume size does not matter in archeology is absurd! Look at the many discoveries of past human civilizations. Archeologists almost always found the remnants of the big buildings before they found the tiny jewelry and pottery. That's because they are more easily to spot.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:26 am

Viceroy63 wrote:
betiko wrote:Viceroy just a question about your sig; what fact do you hold exactly regarding the origins of mankind?

That it did not evolved from lower life forms. That is a fact to be sure and evolution the premise accepted as fact.

You don't know how tempting it is to say something like "yeah, Eve did come from Adam" never mind that I believe that the original "Adam" was not really male, but some amalgamation -- anyway, on to serious answers
This is a heavy distortion of not just science, but the Bible. The Bible says we came from dust, but not how we came from dust. IN other references to other processes, that kind of language was used for indirect methods as well as direct.

Scientifically, we have some biological evidence that our form arose from another mammal, with the least distant ancestor joining us to the apes (way WAAAY back). However, there is more to being human than just form. How closely we are related to the Neanderthals, for example, is a question. Could our most recent ancestors interbreed with them? Did Neanderthals have things like religion? However, at some point it is clear that modern man emerged with "social" characteristics that distinguish us from the other hominid types. It is quite possible that nothing in biology will fully explain that.

BUT, to claim that your statement is "fact" is to go beyond any understanding of fact accepted by honest individuals.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:36 am

Viceroy63 wrote:Come on people, Think about it? In the field of Archeology, "Size does not matter!"


Ugh, you know I really meant bone density ... is this where I talk about the BBQ Turkey leg joke?

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Yes it has to do with bone density and bone thickness. The larger the bone (and the larger the animal) the better chance that the bones will survive at least somewhat intact and not in a million fragments. That's why most of the land fossils that have been found are from animals with large bones.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:50 am

Viceroy63 wrote:That it did not evolved from lower life forms. That is a fact to be sure and evolution the premise accepted as fact.


Bah humbug. I refuse this elitist notion of "lower." Why you you think you are somehow "higher?" (Have you been eating from that tree which you were specifically told not to eat from?) The Neanderthal may not have had the same IQ as you or I but why does that mean he is lower?

Do you know what Adam looked like? How do you know he wasn't a Neanderthal?

(I'm really tempted to go into the whole "Neanderthal's wore clothing," but "Knowledge" and "Naked" is a Hebrew word play.)
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:51 am

tzor wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:Come on people, Think about it? In the field of Archeology, "Size does not matter!"


Ugh, you know I really meant bone density ... is this where I talk about the BBQ Turkey leg joke?

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Yes it has to do with bone density and bone thickness. The larger the bone (and the larger the animal) the better chance that the bones will survive at least somewhat intact and not in a million fragments. That's why most of the land fossils that have been found are from animals with large bones.

Not to mention whether the animal lived in a dry or humid environment, how many predators were around (many predators eat and digest the skeletons and all of their prey), etc.

At any rate, your whole idea is just backwards Viceroy. You want to claim "there ought to be more fossils, so the theories are wrong". The trouble is we HAVE the numbers of fossils we have. Science takes what exists and explains it, rather than just deciding what they wish were true and then building a story to fit what they want to believe.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:36 am

I'm beginning to believe that Viceroy subscribes to the theory that the banana is clear evidence that man was created rather than evolved. After all, look how perfectly the banana fits into the human hand.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:47 am

Woodruff wrote:I'm beginning to believe that Viceroy subscribes to the theory that the banana is clear evidence that man was created rather than evolved. After all, look how perfectly the banana fits into the human hand.


And it perfectly fits into an ass, so obviously God wanted humans to use dildos. Note the logic:

1. Bananas fit in the hand.
2. Bananas resemble the Phallus.
3. The Phallus can fit within the anus.
4. God wants humans to use bananas as dildos.


We've discovered a loophole to the Bible and how it goes on about buggering oneself but not others.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby crispybits on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:48 am

Woodruff wrote:I'm beginning to believe that Viceroy subscribes to the theory that the banana is clear evidence that man was created rather than evolved. After all, look how perfectly the banana fits into the human hand.


For anyone who needs a laugh and hasn't seen it yet:

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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:52 am

crispybits wrote:
Woodruff wrote:I'm beginning to believe that Viceroy subscribes to the theory that the banana is clear evidence that man was created rather than evolved. After all, look how perfectly the banana fits into the human hand.


For anyone who needs a laugh and hasn't seen it yet:


Hehe.

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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:23 pm

crispybits wrote:
Woodruff wrote:I'm beginning to believe that Viceroy subscribes to the theory that the banana is clear evidence that man was created rather than evolved. After all, look how perfectly the banana fits into the human hand.


For anyone who needs a laugh and hasn't seen it yet:


That is precisely who I had in mind. <grin>
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:17 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:And it perfectly fits into an ass, so obviously God wanted humans to use dildos. Note the logic:

1. Bananas fit in the hand.
2. Bananas resemble the Phallus.
3. The Phallus can fit within the anus.
4. God wants humans to use bananas as dildos.


We've discovered a loophole to the Bible and how it goes on about buggering oneself but not others.


All I want to say is sigh. Just sigh.

You forgot one important problem. Bananas collapse under enough force.

Clearly you meant to say "a plantain" right?

Because the plantain does meet all possible requirements and can withstand a modicum of pressure.

:twisted:

Just saying.

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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Out of the closet and into the Light, tzor?
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby betiko on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:41 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Out of the closet and into the Light, tzor?

:lol:
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:36 pm

This thread finally got good!
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:49 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Out of the closet and into the Light, tzor?


No closet for me to get out of. I much prefer the female form. Never the less, one cannot forget the great classics of my day, (such as Debbie does Dallas).

Besides, we all know that Man's nemesis is not the plantain, but the cucumber. :twisted:
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby crispybits on Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:13 am

It amuses me as a 6'5" hairy man to stand in the vegetable section section of the suprmarket with a big pot of lube pretending to carefully consider all the available options :wink:
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:03 pm

What's wrong with the fruits, crispybits?
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby crispybits on Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:49 pm

too squishy :twisted:
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby betiko on Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:12 pm

Why did god make peaches so hard to eat? You necesairly need to suck on it to avoid all the fluid to spill. Is it an evil fruit, as oposed to the heavenly banana designed for mankind?
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:20 pm

betiko wrote:Why did god make peaches so hard to eat? You necesairly need to suck on it to avoid all the fluid to spill. Is it an evil fruit, as oposed to the heavenly banana designed for mankind?

There are two main categories of fruits, betiko. Heaven approved fruits, and devil's choice fruits. Peaches naturally fall into the latter category.


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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Neoteny on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:40 pm

If the juice isn't flowing, then you aren't doing it right.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby betiko on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:05 pm

I try to suck it before it spills everywhere. Otherwise your fingers are all sticky icky.
Do you guys shave your peaches before eating them? The skin is a bit furry othrwise.


I think a great godly fruit is the apple. Unlike a banana, you can t stick it up your ass though. Wonder if viceroy disagrees with this truth.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby waauw on Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:02 pm

betiko wrote:I try to suck it before it spills everywhere. Otherwise your fingers are all sticky icky.
Do you guys shave your peaches before eating them? The skin is a bit furry othrwise.


I think a great godly fruit is the apple. Unlike a banana, you can t stick it up your ass though. Wonder if viceroy disagrees with this truth.


let's hope he hasn't tried it out
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