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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby cyrenius on Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:25 am

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Ther's a very acurate sumary of Ceauşescu's achivment's, I would make just one corection, he didn't leave office, he was executed on the firs day of Cristmas after a trial of 1h20"


Well I was trying to phrase it gently! (He didn't continue in office after his illegal execution ...) Anyway, definitely a heroic giant and one of the great leaders of 20th century Europe.

I found a video on YouTube I had not seen in many years - of Ceauşescu addressing the people of the Rumanian farmers and workers paradise urging them into internationalist solidarity with the Czechs and Slovaks on the occasion of the unfortunate intervention of the Friendship Pact into Prague in 1968. Such courage and solidarity would never be found in the modern toilet called the "European Union."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vREdWr0 ... re=related


I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Titanic on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:05 am

cyrenius wrote:I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join


The EU is one of the few things bringing real democratic and liberalising change to the Balkans and preventing another war or internal crisis in the region.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:10 am

Titanic wrote:
cyrenius wrote:I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join


The EU is one of the few things bringing real democratic and liberalising change to the Balkans and preventing another war or internal crisis in the region.


blah blah blah

says the Englishman sitting high atop his throne of ivory, wagging his finger and lecturing eastern Europe on what is best for them

Cyrenius - they just never learn, do they? The English trashed their own little island, now they want to do to Europe what they did to Britain.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Titanic on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:40 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Titanic wrote:
cyrenius wrote:I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join


The EU is one of the few things bringing real democratic and liberalising change to the Balkans and preventing another war or internal crisis in the region.


blah blah blah

says the Englishman sitting high atop his throne of ivory, wagging his finger and lecturing eastern Europe on what is best for them

Cyrenius - they just never learn, do they? The English trashed their own little island, now they want to do to Europe what they did to Britain.


Im not English, Im British. And I'm not lecturing anyone, its up to the prospective EU countries if they want to join or not, it is more benefitial for them then it will be for us. I am pro-EU, yes, and I think it has done wonderful things and is a great influence in the surrounding regions.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:49 am

Titanic wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Titanic wrote:
cyrenius wrote:I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join


The EU is one of the few things bringing real democratic and liberalising change to the Balkans and preventing another war or internal crisis in the region.


blah blah blah

says the Englishman sitting high atop his throne of ivory, wagging his finger and lecturing eastern Europe on what is best for them

Cyrenius - they just never learn, do they? The English trashed their own little island, now they want to do to Europe what they did to Britain.


Im not English, Im British. And I'm not lecturing anyone, its up to the prospective EU countries if they want to join or not, it is more benefitial for them then it will be for us. I am pro-EU, yes, and I think it has done wonderful things and is a great influence in the surrounding regions.


"The EU is so great, the EU is so wonderful, the EU is the best, rah rah rah!"

Save it for a football match.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Titanic on Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:08 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Titanic wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Titanic wrote:
cyrenius wrote:I agree, he was brave from this point of view, but also the grat achivments of the comunist era where paid with many lives

And yes the EU is a shit hole, congratulations to the European contries that refused to join


The EU is one of the few things bringing real democratic and liberalising change to the Balkans and preventing another war or internal crisis in the region.


blah blah blah

says the Englishman sitting high atop his throne of ivory, wagging his finger and lecturing eastern Europe on what is best for them

Cyrenius - they just never learn, do they? The English trashed their own little island, now they want to do to Europe what they did to Britain.


Im not English, Im British. And I'm not lecturing anyone, its up to the prospective EU countries if they want to join or not, it is more benefitial for them then it will be for us. I am pro-EU, yes, and I think it has done wonderful things and is a great influence in the surrounding regions.


"The EU is so great, the EU is so wonderful, the EU is the best, rah rah rah!"

Save it for a football match.


What use is that in a football match?
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:46 pm

Titanic wrote:
What use is that in a football match?


oh Titanic - you're cute but you're simple
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby wercool on Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:55 pm

obamas getting killed. :)
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:39 pm

wercool wrote:obamas getting killed. :)

In all objective fairness, hes only been destroying for barely 2 years. He should better enjoy his last 2.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Brunokappa on Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:52 pm

Bill Clinton in my eyes but im Canadian so i dunno
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:03 pm

Brunokappa wrote:im Canadian so i dunno


in just these five words you have summed up the entire experience of being Canadian

kudos to you, sir
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:59 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Brunokappa wrote:im Canadian so i dunno


in just these five words you have summed up the entire experience of being Canadian

kudos to you, sir


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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby ViperOverLord on Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:36 am

Joodoo wrote:Clinton, for not bringing USA into a massive debt.


You can thank the Republican Congress for that. Clinton tried to do his own version of Obama Care and was defeated. He was defeated on many spending measures. If only the Democrats would have done the same thing to W. But the truth is Dems are always going to be tax and spenders. The difference is they are 'thrifty' when Republicans block them and 'W is spending out of control' when they get what they want (well not all they wanted).

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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby ViperOverLord on Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:43 am

Something tells me that this poll does not come close to representing what a true poll (either domestic or international) would represent. Yes I do believe that Reagan would lead the vote because he's pretty much the choice for most Republican and many Independents and even a few Blue Dog Democrats.

But Obama not beating Clinton? For all the hype he better be! If this was the case two years ago, he would have never even beat Shmillary I made a deal to be secretary of ineptitude Clinton in the primary. It's especially alarming when you consider that Presidents tend to lose popularity over time (though the 'historic' nature of Obama will likely make him a sentimental favorite even among some people that currently hate him).

But yea, maybe it's the economy or something. Because why else would everybody sing his praises and then vote for Clinton? Makes no sense. I guess people just can only admit to themselves when their hero's a d-bag lol.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby jefjef on Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:14 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Brunokappa wrote:im Canadian so i dunno


in just these five words you have summed up the entire experience of being Canadian

kudos to you, sir


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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Titanic on Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:18 am

ViperOverLord wrote:Something tells me that this poll does not come close to representing what a true poll (either domestic or international) would represent. Yes I do believe that Reagan would lead the vote because he's pretty much the choice for most Republican and many Independents and even a few Blue Dog Democrats.

But Obama not beating Clinton? For all the hype he better be! If this was the case two years ago, he would have never even beat Shmillary I made a deal to be secretary of ineptitude Clinton in the primary. It's especially alarming when you consider that Presidents tend to lose popularity over time (though the 'historic' nature of Obama will likely make him a sentimental favorite even among some people that currently hate him).

But yea, maybe it's the economy or something. Because why else would everybody sing his praises and then vote for Clinton? Makes no sense. I guess people just can only admit to themselves when their hero's a d-bag lol.


Or, as many have said already, you can't compare someone 16 months into their presidency to people who have complete their terms. Obama should never have been an option in this poll.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:50 pm

I was around when Clinton was in office, not Reagen...Sooooo my vote goes to Clinton.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:37 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I was around when Clinton was in office, not Reagen...Sooooo my vote goes to Clinton.

Have you ever considered studying Reagan and his politics?
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:35 am

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DirtyDishSoap wrote:I was around when Clinton was in office, not Reagen...Sooooo my vote goes to Clinton.

Have you ever considered studying Reagan and his politics?

No.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby CreepersWiener on Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:58 am

Ron Paul!
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:58 am

CreepersWiener wrote:Ron Paul!
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:25 pm

A question for those who chose Obama. Is this his economy yet? are his plans he implemented taking root? or is it still in the works and just beyond the horizon? Are we still suffering from Bush? Wondering what you guys think
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:48 pm

Phatscotty wrote:A question for those who chose Obama. Is this his economy yet? are his plans he implemented taking root? or is it still in the works and just beyond the horizon? Are we still suffering from Bush? Wondering what you guys think


To be honest I mostly chose Obama out of spite. I don't realy think he should be included in the poll as his Presidency is still in progress and there is still much he could do/fail to do.

On your other questions. I think Obama actualy did the right thing with the bailouts, it was unpopular but I think it prevented allot of market instability which could have done allot more dammage than we care to know. Is it "his" economy well he inherited a nosediving one which has started to level out somewhat, the downturn was a global one so it may very well be that the recovery has more to do with global trends than any one national policy. The dammage Bush did or didin't do is still too soon to tell ( I think more dammage than good), but I think that whatever was done so recently as three years ago would still be affecting the present day.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:28 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:A question for those who chose Obama. Is this his economy yet? are his plans he implemented taking root? or is it still in the works and just beyond the horizon? Are we still suffering from Bush? Wondering what you guys think



I think Obama actualy did the right thing with the bailouts, it was unpopular but I think it prevented allot of market instability which could have done allot more dammage than we care to know.




How did it prevent market instability? The market has been anything but stable.
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Re: Best Presidident 1980-current

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:42 pm

If a bunch of banks collapse that would cause all kinds of intresting things to happen to the economy. As it was it kept things more stable without causing the upheaval several defunct banks would cause.
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