Phatscotty wrote:Those things can and should be changed in the law, at a state level. Again, marriage does not need to be redefined in order to handle the inheritance issue, or even the hospital visitation issue.
JB, lemme ask ya something only slightly related. What is the gay population in America?
Exactly like the issue of Slavery; states simply aren't competent enough to handle civil rights without some federal intervention.
I wouldn't drag Webster into this, or we Libs will start arguing "changing definitions is so complex" for abortion and sh*t. And Marriage means contract.
a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
Somewhere between 3 and 4 million Americans identify themselves as Homosexual. But I don't see the relevance of that number. As Rachel Maddow said "Here's the thing about Civil Rights, you don't get to vote on them; That's why they're called Rights."
Phatscotty wrote:Sure they are victims, but were they "harmed"? I think a lot of crime is committed based on the thought that nobody is harmed, so it's okay. Just know, that's a justification most popular amongst criminals or people who know they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.
And nobody is telling people that gay people can't get married, as you like to frame it. The definition of marriage tells everyone that marriage is between one man and one woman.
You put so much emphasis that people are being hated on or that this is discrimination, but you don't realize that gay marriage has only first been legalized in the world in the year 2000.
Laws take a long time to change, you know that right? Do you also know that not everybody wants the same things you want? And that everyone doesn't see things the way you do?
And this isn't just simply a matter of law, like you guys like to emphasize. This is just as much a matter of culture if not more so, and you are trying to bulldoze an entire creed of people into changing what to many people is a very serious issue, perhaps the most serious of all issues, to them. Recognize that we are not trying to force anything, but that you are trying to force something.
Yes they have been harmed.
Your compelling argument for why Gay Americans do not deserve equal rights is that no one is physically harming them and Americans don't feel ready to extend equality to Gays?