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72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Perhaps the problem is that you're kind of an idiot.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Perhaps the problem is that you're kind of an idiot.
Ah, yes. The ever-understanding debater: Symmetry.
Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask questions to reveal their true intentions and meaning? Why make such presumptions claims on people whose intentions and meanings you do not know?
Sadly, you resort to the ad hominem while rattling your pretense of knowledge. Whether that is the mark of idiocy or is merely intended to maintain the theme of the Off-Topics, we may never know. Or do we?
Symmetry wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Perhaps the problem is that you're kind of an idiot.
Ah, yes. The ever-understanding debater: Symmetry.
Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask questions to reveal their true intentions and meaning? Why make such presumptions claims on people whose intentions and meanings you do not know?
Sadly, you resort to the ad hominem while rattling your pretense of knowledge. Whether that is the mark of idiocy or is merely intended to maintain the theme of the Off-Topics, we may never know. Or do we?
Do you agree with him?
BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Perhaps the problem is that you're kind of an idiot.
Ah, yes. The ever-understanding debater: Symmetry.
Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask questions to reveal their true intentions and meaning? Why make such presumptions claims on people whose intentions and meanings you do not know?
Sadly, you resort to the ad hominem while rattling your pretense of knowledge. Whether that is the mark of idiocy or is merely intended to maintain the theme of the Off-Topics, we may never know. Or do we?
Do you agree with him?
With what exactly?
Is he being sincere in his use of "coincidentally"?
If we update his first two sentences with what he's implying, then the two become one: "I perceive that McDonald's only hires black people in my immediate area." Then comes the "coincidentally" sentence with its the unknown meanings/intentions.
So, how can I agree with him if the meaning and intention are unknown? I'd be foolish to presume that which I do not know.
72o wrote:BBS' breakdown of sentences 1 and 2 are pretty accurate. I do not ever see anyone working at McDonalds except for African Americans. Of course this has to do with my geography.
The "coincidentally" term was intended to point out that I don't necessarily perceive any correlation between race and service quality, it just happens to be a coincidence.
Chick-Fil-A is basically the exact opposite, at least around here. They only hire white folks from what I can tell, I never see any minorities there. And their service is always very efficient and polite. I like how they say "my pleasure" every time I say thanks.
Dukasaur wrote:Gillipig wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:As much as I disdain McDonalds, claiming they don't make their burgers from ground cow meat is a stretch.. unless you refer to their chicken sandwiches or their new offerings in India.
There is enough honest criticism of McDonalds without lapsing into pure falsehoods.
If they use cow meat is not the question really. I assume you don't know much about this as otherwise you wouldn't be satisfied with just that they use cow meat. The question is really how much of the burger is meat and how much is filled out with carbohydrates. Just by looking at it and feeling the consistence of a burger you can see if it's "real" meat or not. Make a burger from real cow meat yourself and see what it looks and feels like.
On the contrary, the relatively bland flavour of MacDonalds burgers is because the patties are pure beef. If you make a burger at home you will probably use eggs and breadcrumbs and spices galore; these are the things that give it flavour. But to keep the marketing simple, MacDonalds does use pure 100% beef, simply to avoid giving ammunition to critics who would distort any enhancement and call it filler. They reap the worst of both worlds, unfortunately. The burgers are bland from lack of seasoning and still these baseless accusations continue to swirl.
Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:BBS' breakdown of sentences 1 and 2 are pretty accurate. I do not ever see anyone working at McDonalds except for African Americans. Of course this has to do with my geography.
The "coincidentally" term was intended to point out that I don't necessarily perceive any correlation between race and service quality, it just happens to be a coincidence.
Chick-Fil-A is basically the exact opposite, at least around here. They only hire white folks from what I can tell, I never see any minorities there. And their service is always very efficient and polite. I like how they say "my pleasure" every time I say thanks.
So you're not saying that Mcdonalds only hires black people anymore, but you're doubling down and saying that Chick-fil-a only hires white people? And that you coincidentally think the white folks are more polite?
Symmetry wrote:Oh we do, and pointing out that you're being pretty racist is part of the debate. I note you're trying to back away from your initial statements.
Conceding that you're wrong is part of the debate process too. Did you expect blanket agreement?
72o wrote:Symmetry wrote:Oh we do, and pointing out that you're being pretty racist is part of the debate. I note you're trying to back away from your initial statements.
Conceding that you're wrong is part of the debate process too. Did you expect blanket agreement?
Not sure that I'm backing away, I'm explaining myself more thoroughly, lest I get tattled on as a banhammer candidate because someone says I hate black people.
Obviously I am aware that McDonald's does in fact hire non-African American people. I just never see them working at the locations that I visit.
72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people.
Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:Symmetry wrote:Oh we do, and pointing out that you're being pretty racist is part of the debate. I note you're trying to back away from your initial statements.
Conceding that you're wrong is part of the debate process too. Did you expect blanket agreement?
Not sure that I'm backing away, I'm explaining myself more thoroughly, lest I get tattled on as a banhammer candidate because someone says I hate black people.
Obviously I am aware that McDonald's does in fact hire non-African American people. I just never see them working at the locations that I visit.
Interesting, that's quite a few steps away from your argument that Mcdonalds only hires black people.72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people.
Dukasaur wrote:Gillipig wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:As much as I disdain McDonalds, claiming they don't make their burgers from ground cow meat is a stretch.. unless you refer to their chicken sandwiches or their new offerings in India.
There is enough honest criticism of McDonalds without lapsing into pure falsehoods.
If they use cow meat is not the question really. I assume you don't know much about this as otherwise you wouldn't be satisfied with just that they use cow meat. The question is really how much of the burger is meat and how much is filled out with carbohydrates. Just by looking at it and feeling the consistence of a burger you can see if it's "real" meat or not. Make a burger from real cow meat yourself and see what it looks and feels like.
On the contrary, the relatively bland flavour of MacDonalds burgers is because the patties are pure beef. If you make a burger at home you will probably use eggs and breadcrumbs and spices galore; these are the things that give it flavour. But to keep the marketing simple, MacDonalds does use pure 100% beef, simply to avoid giving ammunition to critics who would distort any enhancement and call it filler. They reap the worst of both worlds, unfortunately. The burgers are bland from lack of seasoning and still these baseless accusations continue to swirl.
72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
It's like the anti-Chick-Fil-A.
72o wrote:Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:Symmetry wrote:Oh we do, and pointing out that you're being pretty racist is part of the debate. I note you're trying to back away from your initial statements.
Conceding that you're wrong is part of the debate process too. Did you expect blanket agreement?
Not sure that I'm backing away, I'm explaining myself more thoroughly, lest I get tattled on as a banhammer candidate because someone says I hate black people.
Obviously I am aware that McDonald's does in fact hire non-African American people. I just never see them working at the locations that I visit.
Interesting, that's quite a few steps away from your argument that Mcdonalds only hires black people.72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people.
Interesting that you can't comprehend a hyperbole (that means exaggeration) when you see one.
72o wrote:Actual experience from yesterday:
My wife asks me to pull into McDonald's because she likes their coffee.
I roll my eyes and oblige.
Pull up to the drive-thru, ask for a medium regular coffee, black, and a medium hot hazelnut latte, nonfat milk.
Girl asks me to repeat it 3 times, then says "hold on", then rings up one iced latte and asks me if the screen is showing my order.
No, back and forth, HOT latte I am forced to say about 5 times. 2 DIFFERENT COFFEES. Finally she gets it right.
I pull up at the first window. African American female #1 asks, "what did you have now?"
Explain the order again. Pay the 6 bucks.
Pull up to the second window. African American female #2 asks, "did you have the iced latte?"
"No, HOT latte. Hazelnut. We just went over this."
"oh, our machine is down right now, do you want to wait?"
"how long is it going to be?"
"I'm not sure, she's got it unplugged right now."
"can I have my money back?"
"what did you have again?"
I drove off.
Symmetry wrote:It looks like he just doesn't like a group of people based on their skin colour.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Symmetry wrote:It looks like he just doesn't like a group of people based on their skin colour.
Maybe, but I think my comment was more to the point.
Symmetry wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:72o wrote:I think McDonald's only hires black people. That's all I ever see there. Coincidentally, the service I receive at McDonald's is consistently sub-par.
Perhaps the problem is that you're kind of an idiot.
Ah, yes. The ever-understanding debater: Symmetry.
Why not give someone the benefit of the doubt and ask questions to reveal their true intentions and meaning? Why make such presumptions claims on people whose intentions and meanings you do not know?
Sadly, you resort to the ad hominem while rattling your pretense of knowledge. Whether that is the mark of idiocy or is merely intended to maintain the theme of the Off-Topics, we may never know. Or do we?
Do you agree with him?
With what exactly?
Is he being sincere in his use of "coincidentally"?
If we update his first two sentences with what he's implying, then the two become one: "I perceive that McDonald's only hires black people in my immediate area." Then comes the "coincidentally" sentence with its the unknown meanings/intentions.
So, how can I agree with him if the meaning and intention are unknown? I'd be foolish to presume that which I do not know.
You seem to be saying that you want to agree with him, and are willing to jump through hoops to do so.
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