saxitoxin wrote:GabonX wrote:Again, if Israel had attacked the USS Liberty knowing it was a US ship, what was their motive, and why did they admit to carrying out the attack instead of blaming it on the Egyptian forces?
Again -
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=182445&start=30#p3985548.
Your source says that their have been 13 official inquiries into the incident, but that none of them are credible for some reason.
It goes on Israel’s motive for launching the attack has never been determined with certainty while in reality it has, on 13 separate occasions, been determined that the motive was to attack a misidentified ship in a war zone.
It goes on to assert two possible conclusions. The first is that Israel intended to blame the attack on the Egyptians because it may have brought the US into the war. The second is that Israel wanted to block the ship from intercepting transmissions which may have damaged US-Israeli relations, so in an attempt to maintain friendly diplomatic relations the Israelis decided to attack an American ship and later fess up to it for some reason instead of blaming it on the Egyptians as they had planned.
Neither of the theories presented by your source explains why the Israelis would not have blamed the Egyptians for the attack as you claim it does.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:- former Congressman Paul Findley (Republican - Illinois)
- former Congressman Col. Peter McCloskey (Republican - California); recipient of the Silver Star, Navy Cross & 2 Purple Hearts
- former Senator James Abourzek (Democrat - South Dakota)
- Dr. Edward Peck (former Deputy Director of Covert Intelligence Programs, U.S. State Department)
- Dr. Robert Keeley (former U.S. Ambassador to Greece)
- Dr. Phil Giraldi (former CIA Station Chief - Barcelona; national security correspondent for American Conservative Magazine)
I know it doesn't hold a candle to the somber, academic inquiry of HoneyTiger84, WikiMom2Boys and Freakzilla74 over at Wikipedia, but it's the best I could do.
Yup....
Paul Findlay... noted commie-lover, best known for successfully urging Congress to renege on its guarantees to Nationalist China and endorse the Communist regime. Big surprise to find him in Nasser's corner, lol.
Pete McCloskey... Holocaust Denier. We find a Holocaust Denier questioning Israel's right to exist? OMG, RU Serious?!?! I can't believe it!
James Abourezk... Point man for the Arab lobby in Congress.... 'nuff said.
Edward Peck... Nixon sycophant elevated to the Foreign Service, presumably for his devotion to shining Nixon's shoes with tongue.
Robert Keeley... Gerald Ford shoeshiner, but better known for his tireless toadying to the Islamist lobby, and more recently self-publishing three books that no legitimate publisher would touch.
Fine bunch of objective, non-aligned neutral voices there! ROTFLMAO!
I'll take my chances with Mamabear824 or any other random sampling of normal people.
I try not to get bogged down in the ad-hominem attacks as the arguments fail to hold up to scrutiny on their own merits, but I appreciate you pointing this out. It's no surprise that Saxi Toxin's sources are written by people with a record of antisemitism as his entire narrative on the issue is fundamentally anti-Semitic.
His knee jerk reaction to anyone who voices support of Israel is that they must be a Jewish theocratic radical, or that they've been strong armed by some kind of international Jewish Zionist mafia.
Basically he relishes the opportunity to root out Jews and
Jewish/Zionist conspiracy.
He maintains that Palestinians have the right to attack civilians and that Israeli's don't have the right to defend themselves. Sometimes he maintains that Israeli's have nothing to fear from external threats and others he relishes the fact that their extermination is nigh.
Basically, any position which is anti Israel he supports even when they openly contradict each other.