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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:29 pm

heavycola wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:(MASSIVE SCARY GRAPHIC)


Reuters' style guide? Do you know what a style guide is?
These recent reuters headlines suggest not:


Hunny bunny, why don't you find one example of a Reuters report referencing - outside of a quote - the brutal Saudi monarchy as a "regime" and then I'll shut-up. Seriously. Easy offer. You find just one ... just one! ... example of a Reuters story referencing the "Saudi regime" and I'll go away. What a deal! :P

    Wanna make it even more delicious? You'll agree that I need to find "X" examples of Reuters referencing the "Syrian regime" and you'll go away. You can name ANY single digit number you like in place of "X." Go ahead, let's make this happen! It'll be a fun showdown to see who wins, Saxi or the Pro-Newscorp Neo-Con Warmonger.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:40 pm

Tony Cartalucci needs to prove that the US and/or NATO have directly funded these terrorist organizations. Unfortunately, such information is classified. However, it may be likely that the US/NATO has lent material support to terrorists in Libya--specifically Belhaj's organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Honestly, we really don't know exactly what kind of role the US/NATO clandestinely played in Libya and now in Syria.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:52 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Tony Cartalucci needs to prove that the US and/or NATO have directly funded these terrorist organizations. Unfortunately, such information is classified. However, it may be likely that the US/NATO has lent material support to terrorists in Libya--specifically Belhaj's organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Honestly, we really don't know exactly what kind of role the US/NATO clandestinely played in Libya and now in Syria.


It's been established with everything short of an actual equipment manifesto that the U.S. and her UK/French puppets armed the Libyan terrorists (or "rebels" as the Reuters style guide demands ... until they crash a plane into the Sears Tower and the style guide changes the term back to "terrorists" so as to whip the public into war hysteria [see: Afghanistan 1984-2001]).

US paves way to arm Libyan rebels
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/arms-libya-rebels

France admits it armed Libyan rebels
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0630/France-admits-it-armed-Libyan-rebels

Cameron is ready to arm the rebels as air strikes set to continue
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -goes.html

Italy to supply Libyan rebels with arms
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... 1edrm.html
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:01 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Tony Cartalucci needs to prove that the US and/or NATO have directly funded these terrorist organizations. Unfortunately, such information is classified. However, it may be likely that the US/NATO has lent material support to terrorists in Libya--specifically Belhaj's organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Honestly, we really don't know exactly what kind of role the US/NATO clandestinely played in Libya and now in Syria.


It's been established with everything short of an actual equipment manifesto that the U.S. and her UK/French puppets armed the Libyan terrorists.

US paves way to arm Libyan rebels
Clinton tells London conference that US has decided UN security council resolution 1973 over-rode absolute prohibition of arms to Libya
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... bya-rebels

France admits it armed Libyan rebels
France's admission Wednesday that it provided weapons to Libyan rebels renews debate on the legality and wisdom of arming rebels in conflicts whose outcome is unpredictable.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terroris ... yan-rebels

Cameron is ready to arm the rebels as air strikes set to continue
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -goes.html


Oh, I'm aware of these kinds of events, but arming rebels/insurgents and arming terrorists are too different things. Of course, if the propaganda PR department tends to define groups arbitrarily, then they can easily justify arming terrorists insurgents.

The point is that Tony still lacks sufficient evidence to support his claim that the US/NATO have supported terrorist organizations in Libya and now in Syria. I'm thinking 10-30 years from now when we discover the truth, these past events will be so insignificant that it won't really impact the domestic public opinion on the US. Also, since those politicians then will probably long gone, then no one is really held accountable for supporting terrorism. Accountability in democracies with low transparency on their foreign policy can be a joke.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:03 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Tony Cartalucci needs to prove that the US and/or NATO have directly funded these terrorist organizations. Unfortunately, such information is classified. However, it may be likely that the US/NATO has lent material support to terrorists in Libya--specifically Belhaj's organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). Honestly, we really don't know exactly what kind of role the US/NATO clandestinely played in Libya and now in Syria.


It's been established with everything short of an actual equipment manifesto that the U.S. and her UK/French puppets armed the Libyan terrorists.

US paves way to arm Libyan rebels
Clinton tells London conference that US has decided UN security council resolution 1973 over-rode absolute prohibition of arms to Libya
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... bya-rebels

France admits it armed Libyan rebels
France's admission Wednesday that it provided weapons to Libyan rebels renews debate on the legality and wisdom of arming rebels in conflicts whose outcome is unpredictable.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terroris ... yan-rebels

Cameron is ready to arm the rebels as air strikes set to continue
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -goes.html


Oh, I'm aware of these kinds of events, but arming rebels/insurgents and arming terrorists are two different things.


I edited my post to clarify I'm speaking using RealPolitik, versus speaking using spin/codewords/the language of NATO press releases.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:10 pm

cnn.com moments ago:

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin declared victory in the country's presidential election, telling a crowd of thousands near Moscow's Red Square that "we have won" even as the votes were still being counted.


This wording is intended to, and does, provoke a reaction in people. When proof is lacking the state media can still communicate to the public at large, with codephrases, the US regime PR position that all Russian elections are fixed. The subtleties of The Language of Persuasion ...

(It's particularly hilarious because, when was the last time CNN waited until every last vote was counted in a US presidential election to "declare a winner!!!"? During the Iowa caucus they declared a winner with 8% of the vote counted.)
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:17 pm

saxitoxin wrote:cnn.com moments ago:

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin declared victory in the country's presidential election, telling a crowd of thousands near Moscow's Red Square that "we have won" even as the votes were still being counted.


This wording is intended to, and does, provoke a reaction in people. When proof is lacking the state media can still communicate to the public at large, with codephrases, the US regime PR position that all Russian elections are fixed. The subtleties of The Language of Persuasion ...

(It's particularly hilarious because, when was the last time CNN waited until every last vote was counted in a US presidential election to "declare a winner!!!"? During the Iowa caucus they declared a winner with 8% of the vote counted.)


Another example of this ... in the manufactured enemy unanimous votes come from a "rubber stamp parliament", in home state they come from "wide consensus and bi-partisan cooperation" ...

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby heavycola on Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:06 am

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    Paul Conroy palling around with his buddy Abdel-Hakim Belhaj, suicide bomb mastermind who likes using high explosives to detach the heads and limbs from small children.

    Rupert Murdoch's staff writers use this type of "journalism" - having a smoke break with the subject of your report ... the only subject you interview, quote or observe as you can't be bothered to hear or present the other side ... actively collaborating with one side while using the corporate media noise machine to "denounce" (as heavycola says) anyone opposing the hysterical drive for war made palatable by playing with the public's emotions -- whipping the population into a bloodthirsty war frenzy. This is the job Rupert Murdoch paid people like Colvin (she was reportedly making mid 6-figures) to perform.

Anti-War/Anti-Neocon/Peace & Democracy activist Tony Cartallucci provides a damning indictment of Paul "Julius Streicher" Conroy ...

March 4, 2012 - Just in time for the "Friends of Syria" conference led by former imperialists Britain and France who appear to be piecemeal reassembling their empires under the cover of US-led NATO-backed "revolutions," the world was treated to a spectacularly timed "casus belli."


This? really? That murdoch sock puppet had an agenda! She wasn't neutral! And to prove my point, here's anti-neocon activist tony, ranting about neo-imperialism! THAT's the truth. Those reborn British and French empires must be just around the corner.

This just gets more mental. I'm going to add to that list:

- shadowy, unseen elites pulling the strings (puppet image optional) - CHECK
- misquotation, dexcontextualisation, and cherrypicked 'facts' used to support POV despite all evidence to contrary - CHECK
- world divided into the few who see the TRUTH vs blind sheeple - CHECK
- frequent use of acronyms like LOL, LMAO (this one is more a forum style for tinfoil hatters, but it's a giveaway) - CHECK
- Alluding to Nazi Germany - CHECK
- moving goalpoasts after own-goal: CHECK
- complete, almost religious blindness to the above: CHECK
- optional credit: a '1984' reference (This should be a Godwin appendix for truthers): CHECK

Arguing with truthers is like shouting in a vacuum, or discussing biology with creationists. No one gets any smarter.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:02 am

heavycola wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Image
    Paul Conroy palling around with his buddy Abdel-Hakim Belhaj, suicide bomb mastermind who likes using high explosives to detach the heads and limbs from small children.

    Rupert Murdoch's staff writers use this type of "journalism" - having a smoke break with the subject of your report ... the only subject you interview, quote or observe as you can't be bothered to hear or present the other side ... actively collaborating with one side while using the corporate media noise machine to "denounce" (as heavycola says) anyone opposing the hysterical drive for war made palatable by playing with the public's emotions -- whipping the population into a bloodthirsty war frenzy. This is the job Rupert Murdoch paid people like Colvin (she was reportedly making mid 6-figures) to perform.

Anti-War/Anti-Neocon/Peace & Democracy activist Tony Cartallucci provides a damning indictment of Paul "Julius Streicher" Conroy ...

March 4, 2012 - Just in time for the "Friends of Syria" conference led by former imperialists Britain and France who appear to be piecemeal reassembling their empires under the cover of US-led NATO-backed "revolutions," the world was treated to a spectacularly timed "casus belli."


EXTREME ANGER!!! I AM A VERY ANGRY, SLIGHTLY OVERWEIGHT, MIDDLE AGED NEO-CON! I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS AND DRINK BUD LIGHT! DO NOT CRITICIZE FOX NEWS OR I WILL NEED TO TAKE A DOUBLE-DOSE OF INSULIN FOR MY ADULT-ONSET DIABETES! FOX NEWS GIVES ME EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW AND IS 170% ACCURATE. GO ISRAEL! GO GIT 'IM JOHN MCCAIN! LET'S NUKE AFGHANISTAN IRAQ LIBYA IRAN! YEEEEEHAW!

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So, anyway, I assume your answer is a no? :P
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:52 pm

A feel good western charity "Invisible Children" which uses "film, creativity and social action" to advocate for "voiceless children" and the "plight of child soldiers" is exposed as just another government-backed PR initiative to smooth opposition to direct military intervention in the developing world (because it's "for the children" so critical thinking can be set aside) when a photographer captured by accident an image that was off-script and not intended for publication ...

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The image showed the founders of Invisible Children — Bobby Bailey, Laren Poole, and Jason Russell — posing with guns alongside members of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA), who have fought against the LRA. On Wednesday, Vice magazine posted the photograph with the headline “Should I Donate Money to Kony 2012 or Not?”

The photograph was immediately criticized.A widely-cited student blog “Visible Children” called it an indication of Invisible Children’s emphasis on direct military intervention in Uganda. The Racialicious, a race and pop culture blog, said the photo helped paint a “picture of neo-colonialism.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blo ... _world_pop


For each one of these groups callously banking on people's emotional kneejerking to "the children" that is exposed, there are twenty - like the "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" - that remain unexposed.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:10 pm

I like Teju Cole's response to groups like "Invisible Children" and the "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights":

    From Sachs to Kristof to Invisible Children to TED, the fastest growth industry in the US is the White Savior Industrial Complex.


Heavy words that heavycola can take to heart:

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:10 pm

RT does a feature on all the Al-Jazeera reporters resigning in protest over the channel's falsification of reports from Syria and "Danny the Activist" who calls for background gunfire and sound effects before appearing on CNN ...

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:28 am

Three journalists were killed today in Syria, however, they were killed by the NATO-armed terrorists so no crocodile tears are being shed in the west. It's all good!

http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2012/06/27/427931.htm

Three journalists and workers in the Syrian al-Ikhbaria Satellite Channel were martyred Wednesday morning in a brutal terrorist attack by an armed terrorist group targeting the headquarters of al-Ikhbaria.

The terrorists planted explosive devices in the headquarters of al-Ikhbaria following their ransacking and destroying of the Satellite Channel studios, including the newsroom studio which was entirely destroyed.

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:53 am

Stop it, sax. Stop ruining it for everyone. Let us remember, Marie Colvin, and how she died for freedom.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:52 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Stop it, sax. Stop ruining it for everyone. Let us remember, Marie Colvin, and how she died for freedom.

It may be too late. Does anyone remember?
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:56 am

A reporter for the UK's ITV News just returned from Damascus said conventional wisdom in Syria is that the 11 journalists who survived the explosion but were subsequently kidnapped have been tortured to death by the Pro-Democracy Peace Activists.

https://twitter.com/billneelyitv/status ... 1404837890

    Meanwhile, an hour ago, one of the Pro-Democracy Peace Activists staged a suicide car bombing at the Ministry of Finance. Troops of the Syrian Arab Army were able to stop the car from entering the MoF grounds so it detonated outside. An unknown number of women and children have been killed in the Peaceful Pro-Democracy bombing.
Meanwhile, Archbishop Guiseppe Nazzaro of the Syrian Catholic Church said from Italy - where he is visiting - that Syrian Christians and Jews, who have been protected by the secular government of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party, are under extreme threat of genocide from the Pro-Democracy Peace Activists.

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article ... CFRONTPAGE
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:30 am

One year ago this month, the head of Sephardic Jewry in the U.S. commented on the support Syrian Jews received from the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party and how good life is in Syria under ASBP/National Front leadership.

... according to Avital, who is in close contact with officers of the Syrian government both in America and in Damascus, Assad is protecting the ancient community and has protection in place at the community’s historic synagogue.

“The Jewish community in Syria is doing well,” says Avital. It supports Assad, and considers him to be the best possible leader for them. Avital shares that sentiment.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/06/14/wh ... rias-jews/


Meanwhile, the Pro-Democracy Peace activists are fighting pitched battles against the Syrian Arab Army to capture a hospital where wounded non-extremists are being cared for; the S.A.A. is desperately trying to defend it as the Pro-Democracy Peace activists intend to murder all the people in the hospital.

#Syrian troops said rebels wr fighting 2 take large hospital on edge of #Douma. Army defended it-many of thr injured inside.
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Postby Symmetry on Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:56 pm

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BigBallinStalin wrote:Stop it, sax. Stop ruining it for everyone. Let us remember, Marie Colvin, and how she died for freedom.

It may be too late. Does anyone remember?


Some of us do.
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:01 pm

The journalist Yara Saleh was rescued five days ago by Syrian anti-terrorism commandos from the Pro-Democracy Youth Peace Activists.

Saleh was the only journalist who survived the visit of Pro-Democracy Youth Peace activists to the Al Ekhbariya TV channel earlier, all other journalists having been executed by Pro-Democracy Youth Peace Activists.

Yesterday, Saleh was interviewed by the French Voltaire Net's Thierry Meyssan about her ordeal and the reality of the ground-situation in Syria and how it differs from the Obama/Cameron/Hollande propaganda being pushed by media outlets to get western public excited for war. As part of a coordinated blackout, no western media other than Voltaire Net have covered Saleh's ordeal. She discussed how she fought off attempted rapes and was forced to veil herself in the hijab during her captivity by the Pro-Democracy Youth Peace Activists.

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:53 pm

And then some alleged government forces shot a veteran Japanese war reporter and killed her. The bullet(s) may have been stray/random bullets, or it may be been a more deliberate target.


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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby heavycola on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:00 pm

Holy shit guys! The situation in Syria isn't black and white? Holy f*ck! How will our tiny, murdoch-posioned minds ever cope??/?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:10 pm

heavycola wrote:The situation in Syria isn't black and white?


it is

you just happen to be on the side of darkness
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:18 pm

heavycola wrote:Holy shit guys! The situation in Syria isn't black and white? Holy f*ck! How will our tiny, murdoch-posioned minds ever cope??/?!?!?!?!?!?!


What does Murdoch have to do with it? Does he own the Democratic Party and all other media outlets too?
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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby heavycola on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:32 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
heavycola wrote:Holy shit guys! The situation in Syria isn't black and white? Holy f*ck! How will our tiny, murdoch-posioned minds ever cope??/?!?!?!?!?!?!


What does Murdoch have to do with it? Does he own the Democratic Party and all other media outlets too?


Dude, if you can't see the wood for the trees, i pity you. Here is a video of some sheep, which I hope will illustrate your herd mentality.

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Re: Remembering a war reporter

Postby heavycola on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:41 pm

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heavycola wrote:The situation in Syria isn't black and white?


it is

you just happen to be on the side of darkness


BTW i missed that other stuff from before - and so today, just for you, I checked Reuters' style guide - [img=http://handbook.reuters.com/index.php/R#regime]there's an entry on the word 'regime' here[/img]. Couldn't find any non-quoted instances of 'syrian regime' either, but i forget what the point of all that was now. I'm sure it had something to do with the global conspiracy though.
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