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Given these to choices for President, who would you vote for?

 
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:36 am

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:well, I'm a naturalist, so...naturally, I do not support a theocracy, nor have I ever been accused of this. There. Am I brave now for clearing up your awfully incorrect assumptions about my religious beliefs???????
LOL


I see you found your tap shoes! You still haven't answered the question, coward.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

whats the question?


It's the one you just deleted from your quoting (nice work):
So then...you claim not to support Palin. Who do YOU choose between the two options you have presented here?

I did not participate. Are you demanding that I participate right this instant?

by the way. I DID NOT PRESENT SHIT! seriously man, wtf????

do you think this is my poll???? ohhhhhh, how cute :)
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:39 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:well, I'm a naturalist, so...naturally, I do not support a theocracy, nor have I ever been accused of this. There. Am I brave now for clearing up your awfully incorrect assumptions about my religious beliefs???????
LOL


I see you found your tap shoes! You still haven't answered the question, coward.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

whats the question?


It's the one you just deleted from your quoting (nice work):
So then...you claim not to support Palin. Who do YOU choose between the two options you have presented here?

I did not participate.


Yeah, I just wanted to see it again.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:40 am

its not my poll!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

apologize
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:40 am

Phatscotty wrote:its not my poll!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, I just noticed that, damnit. <laughing> (Couldn't edit quickly enough.)

And now I don't even remember quite what I said, to re-edit it back in.

(You just shugh-up! <sigh>)
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:43 am

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:its not my poll!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, I just noticed that, damnit. <laughing> (Couldn't edit quickly enough.)

And now I don't even remember quite what I said, to re-edit it back in.

(You just shugh-up! <sigh>)

this is exactly what happened in that other thread. apologize for you calling me 149 names and not deserving any of it
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:44 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:its not my poll!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, I just noticed that, damnit. <laughing> (Couldn't edit quickly enough.)

And now I don't even remember quite what I said, to re-edit it back in.

(You just shugh-up! <sigh>)

this is exactly what happened in that other thread. apologize for you calling me 149 names and not deserving any of it


In this particular case, I made a mistake. Every time I have made a mistake, I have owned up to it. If I have not owned up to it, then I will state that I made no mistake.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby jefjef on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:46 am

What are ya all arguing about. Obama is no where close to being as hot as Sarah. What a bunch geeks.

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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:49 am

Just Woody flying off the hook again. Mr. Spock is experiencing human emotion which interferes with superb logic
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby nvrijn on Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:27 am

My vote is for Obama. When the red phone rings at 4AM, I want my President leaping up from his bed to take the call, not out back in the White House woodshed gutting a deer.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:33 am

nvrijn wrote:My vote is for Obama. When the red phone rings at 4AM, I want my President leaping up from his bed to take the call, not out back in the White House woodshed gutting a deer.
:roll:


How do you know Obama won't be snorting cocaine at 4 AM?
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:09 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Easy one. Ron Paul!

Oh! The senile one who seems to think that the US should go back to pre-WWI policies at the flick of a switch.





I know, going back to FOLLOWING the Constitution would be such a drag! Ta hell with that! Bush! Obama! Clinton! :roll:
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Skittles! on Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:18 am

Phatscotty wrote:
nvrijn wrote:My vote is for Obama. When the red phone rings at 4AM, I want my President leaping up from his bed to take the call, not out back in the White House woodshed gutting a deer.
:roll:


How do you know Obama won't be snorting cocaine at 4 AM?

He'll still answer the call. Just mildly fucked up
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby b.k. barunt on Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:12 am

Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby tzor on Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:15 am

Palin any time.

Obama: Takes 17 minutes not to answer a question.

Palin: Answers the question with a single line; but was the answer really "You Betcha?"

Brevity, I go with brevity! :D
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:09 am

b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


If it works out that way, I will be very pleased.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:25 am

b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


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Powell always seemed fairly reasonable to me.It wouldn't bother me to see him president, if I could vote I would still vote for Obama but I would not be bothered by Powell
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby comic boy on Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:03 am

jay_a2j wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Easy one. Ron Paul!

Oh! The senile one who seems to think that the US should go back to pre-WWI policies at the flick of a switch.





I know, going back to FOLLOWING the Constitution would be such a drag! Ta hell with that! Bush! Obama! Clinton! :roll:


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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:18 am

jay_a2j wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Easy one. Ron Paul!

Oh! The senile one who seems to think that the US should go back to pre-WWI policies at the flick of a switch.





I know, going back to FOLLOWING the Constitution would be such a drag! Ta hell with that! Bush! Obama! Clinton! :roll:

Yay! Putting words into other peoples mouths again!
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby 2dimes on Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:15 pm

Woodruff wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, porn super-star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion.


If it works out that way, I will be very pleased.

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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:13 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


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Powell always seemed fairly reasonable to me.It wouldn't bother me to see him president, if I could vote I would still vote for Obama but I would not be bothered by Powell


Unfortunately, that's exactly what quite a few Democrats were saying about McCain back around 2005-2006. Once he actually got the nomination, none of them wanted anything to do with him. Powell has stated a number of times that he wants nothing to do with running for the presidency, and that's likely a big part of it. It's easy to admire a man for his leadership and military background. When he actually starts presenting domestic and economic policies that run directly counter to things you hold dear, your former admiration can start to fade.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby GabonX on Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:29 pm

I for one never liked Powell..
.. Probably means he'll be President some day (and we will regret it)

Also:
The Bush years made a HUGE difference on McCain's image.

The people who never liked his mellow stances were never going to vote for him, but the image of the Republican party (and his unorthodox pic of Palin for VP) helped his opponents to radicalize his image.


Could Palin become President? This may be of some interest:

Yesterday, the Southern Leadership Conference held a straw poll. Straw polls are a favorite activity at high profile gatherings of party activists, but hold relatively little meaning in the scheme of things. For instance, Ron Paul won the CPAC straw poll, yet Ron Paul obviously isn’t going to be the Republican nominee.

But at the same time, the list of candidates that make it onto a straw poll should, at least, give us a good signal about who the favorites are. The Southern Leadership Conference put nine names on their ballot: former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, current Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, Congressman Ron Paul, and Congressman Mike Pence. These are obviously not all of the legitimate contenders for the Republican nomination, but even still, a quick glance reveals that the overwhelming majority of these candidates would have no chance of defeating an incumbent president, much less the Obama campaign machine, in a general election.

Let’s take a look:

Newt Gingrich: Gingrich is too old, too polarizing, and too Washington to have a fighting chance at winning the presidency.

Sarah Palin: 55% of Americans view her unfavorably. That’s pretty much game over, but even if it wasn’t, the fact that the number holds among independents (55% of them view her unfavorably and 40% of that group said they view her in a “strongly unfavorable” light) also would be a knockout. 41% of all polled view her as strongly unfavorable. In short, that means she can write off 40% of the electorate before the race even starts. Her chances of beating Barack Obama are slim.

Mitt Romney: Deemed the “frontrunner” by many, Romney would get destroyed in a general election. Flip-flop. Flip-flop. Flip-flop. The label destroyed John Kerry, and Romney’s propensity to change his mind makes Kerry’s switches look tame to the point of irrelevance. And did I mention that Obamacare looks like Romneycare on steroids? No chance.

Mike Huckabee: Christians heart Huckabee. Independents do not. Next.

Gary Johnson: Who is Gary Johnson?

Rick Santorum: Staunch social conservatives need not apply for the presidency. Santorum tried to mandate the teaching of intelligent design nationwide in 2001. Not a single Latino in America is going to vote for this guy. Neither are independents, moderate Democrats or a lot of moderate Republicans. If he is lucky and Obama does a lot of things very, very wrong between now and 2012, Santorum might… just might lose 65-35 to Obama.

Ron Paul: The man is a fringe lunatic. The answer is no.

Mike Pence: Who is Mike Pence?

Tim Pawlenty: The only candidate of the batch that I am not 100% confident would get absolutely mauled by Barack Obama in 2012. A smart, competent, seemingly likeable candidate. Relatively moderate. But he is from Minnesota and not really popular there anymore. In March, a poll of 500 Minnesotans pegged his approval at 42%. If his own voters don’t like him, it will be hard for him to beat an incumbent in a general election for the presidency.

Yes, straw polls are meaningless, and the nine names on the Southern Leadership Conference straw poll ballot don’t meaningfully represent all of the possible candidates. Off the top of my head, I might add Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Bobby Jindal…we could go on. And yes, a lot can happen. But honestly, how much worse can this actually get for President Obama? The economy has been poor (whether he really has that much control over it is besides the point), unemployment is soaring, there was an attempted terrorist attack on Christmas Day, the deficit is beyond absurd, his party is on the ropes and may lose many seats in both houses of Congress in the upcoming midterms….and yet, even with all of these disasters, Barack Obama would absolutely wreck eight out of the nine candidates on the Southern Leadership Conference straw poll ballot. The ninth, Tim Pawlenty, is uninspiring to the left, the right, the middle. He has shown nothing to suggest that he can hang with a legitimate heavyweight and frankly, there are few if any reasons to believe that he could win a national race.

The GOP’s star is not coming. Obama became a superstar at the Democratic Convention in 2004 and by 2006 (two years before the election….), every single person that followed politics knew who Barack Obama was. We have neither a Hillary Clinton (a powerhouse presumed nominee) or a rising star who captured the nation’s attention. Paul Ryan is a darling amongst conservatives but about ten mainstream Americans have ever heard of him. Jindal was supposed to be the rising star, but he blew his “national unveiling” with an awkward response to Obama’s State of the Union.

Maybe something could change, maybe our guy will emerge, but probably not. Chances are Obama is here to stay. Republicans will need to gain back as much ground as possible in Congress, and then work to moderate the policies this president is going to push. “Kill the bill” didn’t work with healthcare. Let’s make sure we learn the right lessons. If we don’t, we might find ourselves shut out at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for much longer than “four more years.”


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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby jay_a2j on Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:00 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Easy one. Ron Paul!

Oh! The senile one who seems to think that the US should go back to pre-WWI policies at the flick of a switch.





I know, going back to FOLLOWING the Constitution would be such a drag! Ta hell with that! Bush! Obama! Clinton! :roll:

Yay! Putting words into other peoples mouths again!
Following the constitution-Good thing.
Letting the states have states rights-Good thing
Going back to the Isolationilist Policies of pre-WWI- Horrible HORRIBLE idea.



Back before WWI Congress used to have to DECLARE war. Tell me, does NOT the Constitution say that CONGRESS makes the laws? So why are there so many Executive Orders??????? They are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The Executive branch CAN NOT make laws. But never mind the Constitution.... it's just a stupid piece of paper.

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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Night Strike on Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:13 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


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Powell always seemed fairly reasonable to me.It wouldn't bother me to see him president, if I could vote I would still vote for Obama but I would not be bothered by Powell


Powell would be a worse Republican nominee than McCain. The Republicans HAVE to nominate a conservative to have any shot at standing apart from Obama's socialistic policies.
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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby Timminz on Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:13 pm

GabonX wrote:Rick Santorum

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Re: Obama or Palin?

Postby b.k. barunt on Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:34 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Palin will not run against Obama. After her resignation even the Republicans aren't stoopit enough to do that. The Republicans will spring their surprise candidate that they've been keeping primed in the wings for just such an event - Colin Powell.


Honibaz



Powell always seemed fairly reasonable to me.It wouldn't bother me to see him president, if I could vote I would still vote for Obama but I would not be bothered by Powell


Powell would be a worse Republican nominee than McCain. The Republicans HAVE to nominate a conservative to have any shot at standing apart from Obama's socialistic policies.


Not so. A moderate such as Powell would succeed where a blathering idiot conservative like McCain failed. McCain was only able to garner the hardcore Republican votes - the conservatives as it were. Powell would get all the Republican votes and some of the more conservative Democrats. He'd also bring in a few black votes.

They were all set to run him in 92 but pulled the rug because of his suspected involvement with Spec/Ops back in 69. The words "Mei Lei" were still enough of an echo to make some nervous. Nowadays however most people think that's an option on a Chinese menu - they'll fly him this time - this is a formal prediction. Word.


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