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SB 1070: Most Controversial Component IS Constitutional

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:08 pm

Enforcement of Immigration Law

Ā· Prohibits law enforcement officials and law enforcement agencies of this state or counties, municipalities and political subdivisions from restricting or limiting the enforcement of the federal immigration laws to less than the full extent permitted by federal law.

Ā· Requires officials and agencies to reasonably attempt to determine the immigration status of a person involved in a lawful contact amended to *"The change states that immigration-status questions would follow a law enforcement officer's stopping, detaining or arresting a person while enforcing another law. The earlier law had referred to a "contact" with police." where reasonable suspicion exists regarding the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

Ā· Stipulates that if the person is arrested, the personā€™s immigration status must be determined before the person is released and must be verified with the federal government.

Ā· Stipulates that a law enforcement official or agency cannot solely consider race, color or national origin when implementing these provisions, except as permitted by the U.S. or Arizona Constitution.

Ā· Specifies that a person is presumed to be lawfully present if the person provides any of the following:

Ƙ A valid Arizona driver license.

Ƙ A valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.

Ƙ A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification.

Ƙ A valid federal, state or local government issued identification, if the issuing entity requires proof of legal presence before issuance.


Ā· Requires that if a person is convicted of any state or local law, on discharge from imprisonment or on the assessment of any monetary obligation imposed, ICE or U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) must be immediately notified.

Ā· Authorizes a law enforcement agency to securely transport an unlawfully present alien to a federal facility.

Ā· Requires a law enforcement agency to obtain judicial authorization before securely transporting an unlawfully present alien to a point of transfer that is outside of Arizona.

Ā· Prohibits, except as provided in federal law, officials and agencies of counties, cities, towns or other political subdivisions from being prevented or restricted from sending, receiving or maintaining information relating to the immigration status, of any individual or exchanging that information with another governmental entity for the following official purposes:

Ƙ Determination of eligibility for any public benefit, service or license.

Ƙ Verification of any claim of legal domicile if legal domicile is required by law or judicial order.

Ƙ If the person is an alien, determination of the personā€™s compliance with federal registration laws.

Ƙ Pursuant to federal laws regarding communication between government agencies and federal immigration agencies.

Ā· Stipulates that these provisions does not implement, authorize or establish and cannot be construed to implement authorize or establish the REAL ID Act of 2005, including the use of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID).

Ā· Allows a person who is a legal resident of this state to bring an action in superior court to challenge officials and agencies of the state, counties, cities, towns or other political subdivisions that adopt or implement a policy that limits or restricts the enforcement of federal immigration laws to less than the full extent permitted by federal law.

Ā· Requires the court to order any that a violating entity pays a civil penalty of at least $1,000 and not to exceed $5,000 for each day that the policy has remained in effect after it has been found to be violating these provisions.

Ā· States that the court will collect the penalty and transmit the collected monies to the state Treasurer for deposit in the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission (GIITEM) Fund.

Ā· Authorizes the court to award court costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person or any official or agency that prevails in a case brought under these provisions.

Ā· Indemnifies officers against actions brought under these provisions, except if the officer has been adjudged to have acted in bad faith.

Ā· Stipulates that these provisions are to be implemented consistent with federal immigration law protecting the civil right of all persons and respecting the privileges and immunities of US citizens.

Willful Failure to Complete or Carry an Alien Registration Document

Ā· Specifies that in addition to any violation of federal law, a person is guilty of willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document if the person is in violation of 8 U.S.C. Ā§ 1304(e) or 1306(a).

Ā· Stipulates that the immigration status may be determined by:

Ƙ A law enforcement officer who is authorized by the federal government to verify or ascertain an alienā€™s immigration status.

Ƙ ICE or CBP pursuant to 8 U.S.C. Ā§ 1373(c).

Ā· Prevents a person convicted of the new offense from being eligible for suspension of sentence, probation, pardon, commutation of sentence, or release from confinement on any basis except for as authorized by the Director of the Arizona Department of Correction until the sentence imposed has been served or the person is eligible for release due to early release credits.

Ā· Requires the court to order the person to pay jail costs and an additional assessment of:

Ƙ At least $500 for a first offense.

Ƙ Twice the amount the person was ordered to pay for the first offense if this is the second or subsequent offense.

Ā· States that the court will collect the assessments and transmit the collected monies to the Department of Public Safety for deposit in a special sub-account of the account established for GIITEM.

Ā· Stipulates that monies in the sub-account are subject to legislative appropriation for distribution for gang and immigration enforcement and for county jail costs relating to illegal immigration.

Ā· Stipulates that any record that relates to the immigration status of a person is admissible in any court without further foundation or testimony from a custodian of records if the record is certified as authentic by the government agency responsible for maintaining the record.

Ā· Makes a first offense a class 1 misdemeanor.

Ā· Increases the penalty to a class 3 felony if the person commits the offense while in possession of:

Ƙ A dangerous drug (A.R.S. Ā§ 13-3401).

Ƙ Precursor chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine (A.R.S. Ā§ 13-3404.01).

Ƙ A deadly weapon (A.R.S. Ā§ 13-3101).

Ƙ A dangerous instrument (A.R.S. Ā§ 13-105).

Ƙ Property used for committing an act of terrorism (A.R.S. Ā§ 13-2308.01).

Ā· Makes violations a class 4 felony if either:

Ƙ It is a second or subsequent violation.

Ƙ Within 60 days, the person has been removed from the U.S. either under 8 U.S.C. Ā§ 1229a or 8 U.S.C. Ā§ 1229c.

Unlawfully Picking up Passengers for Work

Ā· Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped on a street, roadway, or highway to attempt to hire or hire and pick up passengers for work at a different location, if the motor vehicle blocks or impedes the normal movement of traffic.

Ā· Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for a person to enter a motor vehicle that is stopped on a street, roadway or highway in order to be hired by an occupant of the motor vehicle and to be transported to work at a different location, if the motor vehicle blocks or impedes the normal movement of traffic.

Ā· Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for a person who is unlawfully present who is an unauthorized alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place or perform work as an employee or independent contractor.

Ā· Defines solicit and unauthorized alien.

Unlawfully Transporting or Harboring Unlawful Aliens

Ā· Stipulates that it is unlawful for a person who is in violation of a criminal offense to:

Ƙ Transport or move an alien in a means of transportation, or attempt to do so, if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that the alien is here unlawfully.

Ƙ Conceal, harbor or shield an alien, or attempt to, if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that the alien is here unlawfully.

Ƙ Encourage or induce an alien to come to this state if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that doing so would be a violation of law.

Ā· Specifies that a means of transportation used in a violation of these provisions is subject to mandatory vehicle immobilization or impoundment.

Ā· Specifies that these provisions do not apply to a Child Protective Services worker acting in the workerā€™s official capacity or a person who is acting in the capacity of a first responder, an ambulance attendant or an emergency medial technician and is transporting or moving an alien in relation to emergency medial services.

Ā· Stipulates that violators are guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor and subject to a fine of at least $1,000. However, a violation involving 10 or more illegal aliens is a class 6 felony and subject to a fine of at least $1,000 for each alien involved.

Ā· Requires a peace officer to immobilize or impound a personā€™s vehicle if the officer determines either that:

Ƙ In furtherance of the illegal presence of an alien and in violation of a criminal offense, the person is transporting or moving, or attempting to do so in a vehicle if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that the alien is here unlawfully.

Ƙ The person is concealing, harboring or shielding an alien in this state, or attempting to do so in a vehicle if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that the alien is here unlawfully.

Employer Sanctions

Ā· Provides employers with the affirmative defense that they were entrapped, but they must admit the substantial elements of the violation.

Ā· Stipulates that the employer has the burden of proof proving the following by a preponderance of the evidence:

Ƙ The idea of committing the violation started with the officer or their agents.

Ƙ The officers or their agents urged and induced the employer to commit the violation.

Ƙ The employer was not predisposed to commit the violation before the law enforcement officer or agents urged and induced the employer to do so.

Ā· Stipulates that an employer is not entrapped if the employer was predisposed to violate the law and law enforcement merely provided the employer with the opportunity. Additionally, it is not entrapment for law enforcement to use a ruse or to conceal their identity.

Ā· Requires employers to keep a record of the employment verification from E-verify for the duration of an employeeā€™s employment, or three years, whichever is longer.

Miscellaneous

Ā· Authorizes peace officers, in the enforcement of human smuggling laws, to lawfully stop a person if they have reasonable suspicion to believe the person is in violation of any civil traffic law.

Ā· Authorizes a peace officer to arrest a person without a warrant if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person has committed any public offense that makes the person removable from the U.S.

Ā· Establishes the GIITEM fund (fund) and directs monies collected from penalties resulting from policies limiting the enforcement of federal immigration law to the fund.

Ā· Requires the Arizona Department of Public Safety to administer the fund, which is subject to legislative appropriation and is to be used for gang and immigration enforcement and for county jail reimbursement for costs relating to illegal immigration.

Ā· Contains intent and severability, implementation and construction clauses.

Ā· Specifies that this act may be cited as the ā€œSupport Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act.ā€

Ā· Makes technical and conforming changes.

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Ā· ---------- DOCUMENT FOOTER ---------

Ā· Forty-ninth Legislature

Ā· Second Regular Session 5 April 19, 2010
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:17 pm

It does look like a driver's license will suffice. This is strange because normally licenses are not accepted as proof of citizenship. I still have issues with the law. It IS still the first time that not having documentation of citizenship can be considered a crime.

And, sorry, but I don't trust the government enough to stay within the limits you claim.

As for the "emergency". Such is always the excuse when rights are eroded. You said as much regarding fire arms.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:26 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:It does look like a driver's license will suffice. This is strange because normally licenses are not accepted as proof of citizenship. I still have issues with the law. It IS still the first time that not having documentation of citizenship can be considered a crime.

And, sorry, but I don't trust the government enough to stay within the limits you claim.

As for the "emergency". Such is always the excuse when rights are eroded. You said as much regarding fire arms.

like I said in another thread, it is a daily occurrence for a police officer to make a typical traffic stop, get to the drivers window and ask for drivers license and registration and insurance.....and when the driver hands the officer a Mexican Voting card, then that officer has probable cause to suspect the driver is here illegally, and now the police are going to be able to do something about it.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Night Strike on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:27 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:As for the "emergency". Such is always the excuse when rights are eroded. You said as much regarding fire arms.


Illegal immigrants and captured terrorists don't have any rights in this country. Citizens and those lawfully present have rights, but this law does not infringe on them.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Timminz on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:34 pm

Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:34 pm

bottom line, we send them back to where they are a legal resident. end of story. you want to get into arguments about how exactly we do it, and Obama wants to fan the flames of hate and race, this is all getting real sickening. We will protect our borders, and we will apologize to nobody for doing so
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:36 pm

Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:32 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry

Stable, probably. No one else will go there.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:36 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry

Stable, probably. No one else will go there.


yeah I'm pretty sure illegal tourism is the main problem right now, but I also foresee Arizona lowering taxes pretty soon too.

Yeah....nobody likes to keep the fruits of their labor....nobody likes a low tax rate.....
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:39 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry


I know that I visit Arizona for the education and healthcare.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:41 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry


I know that I visit Arizona for the education and healthcare.

uh, then you are stupid because arizona schools are closing left and right and arizona hospitals are closing every week. Arizona is not trying to protect education and healthcare for Bones, it is trying to protect them for Arizona and its citizens.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby bradleybadly on Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:12 pm

Looks like the illegals are getting fed up with being exposed as being illegal. They're planning to leave over this law. That will teach Arizona a lesson!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_ ... _day_labor
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:19 pm

bradleybadly wrote:Looks like the illegals are getting fed up with being exposed as being illegal. They're planning to leave over this law. That will teach Arizona a lesson!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_ ... _day_labor

like I said, even if absolutely nothing is done differently by arizona law enforcement, the mere fact that the words were spoken has a tremendous effect in itself
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:15 am

Phatscotty wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote:
Timminz wrote:Captured tourists? I had heard Arizona was a nice place to visit.

It is now going to be a more stable place to visit, with better access to education and healthcare for the citizenry

Stable, probably. No one else will go there.


yeah I'm pretty sure illegal tourism is the main problem right now,

No, but citizens who refuse to do menial jobs and employers who won't pay reasonable wages under conditions citizens consider suitable is.

And a lack of legal means to hire people from other countries who are willing to do those jobs. (the programs that allow legal hires are way, way too limited).

Phatscotty wrote:but I also foresee Arizona lowering taxes pretty soon too.


You are dreaming. Arizona might be slightly decreasing its tax burden, but not enough to compensate for the losses it will also face on other fronts. In particular, this will kill large portions of the lettuce industry.
Phatscotty wrote:Yeah....nobody likes to keep the fruits of their labor....nobody likes a low tax rate.....

Actually, the happiest country on earth has a very high tax rate. But, citizens know they can depend on services. Here, that is not the case. Here, people pay, but don't feel they get much in return.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:42 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:It does look like a driver's license will suffice. This is strange because normally licenses are not accepted as proof of citizenship. I still have issues with the law. It IS still the first time that not having documentation of citizenship can be considered a crime.

And, sorry, but I don't trust the government enough to stay within the limits you claim.

As for the "emergency". Such is always the excuse when rights are eroded. You said as much regarding fire arms.


You don't trust the government? Are you joining the Tea Party movement now? Should I start calling you a racist?
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:03 am

thegreekdog wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:It does look like a driver's license will suffice. This is strange because normally licenses are not accepted as proof of citizenship. I still have issues with the law. It IS still the first time that not having documentation of citizenship can be considered a crime.

And, sorry, but I don't trust the government enough to stay within the limits you claim.

As for the "emergency". Such is always the excuse when rights are eroded. You said as much regarding fire arms.


You don't trust the government?

Depends on the context. I have never said I truly trust the government without qualification. In most cases, what I have said is not that I trust the government more than corporations, etc.

In this case, I actually have some faith that the Supreme court may vote this law unconstitutional. However, the Supreme court has currently swung so very far to the right that it might not. The court is actively rewriting our constitution to favor businesses and the powerful over the individual and the weaker, with few exceptions.
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No, I don't believe in wasting my time. except, of course, to answer inane questions in CC threads..lol
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Never said I wasn't. I think its virtually impossible (but not completely impossible) to be completely non-racist, particularly for those of my generation, who were raised in times that were far less equal than now. I do, however,try my best not to act in a racist manner.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:12 pm

I don't think the Supreme Court will strike this down. Not because they are swinging conservative (they really aren't by the way), but because it's not unconstitutional. If Arizona starts deporting illegal immigrants in other states (like Nevada), then we may have a constitutional issue.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby pimpdave on Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:16 pm

This is big news.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby bedub1 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:49 pm

bradleybadly wrote:Looks like the illegals are getting fed up with being exposed as being illegal. They're planning to leave over this law. That will teach Arizona a lesson!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_ ... _day_labor

lol nobody will even have to get arrested or hassled...they'll all just leave voluntarily....
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:54 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I don't think the Supreme Court will strike this down.
Not because they are swinging conservative (they really aren't by the way)
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You cannot be serious about that?
thegreekdog wrote: but because it's not unconstitutional. If Arizona starts deporting illegal immigrants in other states (like Nevada), then we may have a constitutional issue.

the deportation is not illegal, no. The illegal part is requiring everyone to carry ID or risk being accused of being a non-citizen, and particularly the profiling that is likely to result in a good many citizens being harassed because some police happen to think they might be illegal.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:05 pm

bedub1 wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:Looks like the illegals are getting fed up with being exposed as being illegal. They're planning to leave over this law. That will teach Arizona a lesson!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_ ... _day_labor

lol nobody will even have to get arrested or hassled...they'll all just leave voluntarily....

illegals have already stopped coming to Arizona and the law has not even gone into effect yet. Common Conservative Sense
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:19 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:Looks like the illegals are getting fed up with being exposed as being illegal. They're planning to leave over this law. That will teach Arizona a lesson!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_ ... _day_labor

lol nobody will even have to get arrested or hassled...they'll all just leave voluntarily....

illegals have already stopped coming to Arizona and the law has not even gone into effect yet. Common Conservative Sense

Not just illegals.
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:52 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:You cannot be serious about that?


I am serious.

PLAYER57832 wrote:the deportation is not illegal, no. The illegal part is requiring everyone to carry ID or risk being accused of being a non-citizen, and particularly the profiling that is likely to result in a good many citizens being harassed because some police happen to think they might be illegal.


Why is that illegal?
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:59 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:You cannot be serious about that?


I am serious.

PLAYER57832 wrote:the deportation is not illegal, no. The illegal part is requiring everyone to carry ID or risk being accused of being a non-citizen, and particularly the profiling that is likely to result in a good many citizens being harassed because some police happen to think they might be illegal.


Why is that illegal?

because it might hurt someones feelings
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Re: Arizona Immigration Bill - SB 1070

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:15 am

thegreekdog wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:the deportation is not illegal, no. The illegal part is requiring everyone to carry ID or risk being accused of being a non-citizen, and particularly the profiling that is likely to result in a good many citizens being harassed because some police happen to think they might be illegal.


Why is that illegal?

I will leave that to the attorneys to fight out. "Equal protection" is one argument. Another is whether the state even has the right to mandate citizenship requirements (federal versus state jurisdictions).
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