Obama, the one-term president

[Phatscotty]

Fuck the polls. IF President Obama is really trying to do what he feels is best, then more power to him...that's what he SHOULD be trying to do. We don't need another poll-licking politician in office, lord knows there are enough of them already. As far as "hurting the brand", fuck that shit too...the brand already sucks anyway, so big fucking deal!

f*ck the people. Obama feels like it...

[Frigidus]

AHHHH.... so many reported posts!!!!

Whoever is reporting all the posts is a pussy.

[ViperOverLord]

Actually I do apologize for making an error. I thought he was quoting me directly as using the term when he was quoting my argument. Unlike you, I do apologize for my wrongs.

Unlike me? Great...provide the proof. Where have I not apologized for a wrong (keeping in mind that just because YOU disagree does not make me wrong).

None the less I suggest that you work on your attitude. You continually demean those with whom you disagree.

Have you ZERO self-awareness? I mean, seriously.

And you completely ignored the point, so I'll restate it. Obama is going against the one thing that you think is absolutely detrimental to American success and massively increasing the national debt. Yet you unequivocally support him. Makes sense? Not really.

I did NOT IN ANY WAY unequivocally support him. So I say yet again, perhaps you should read what I actually typed, rather than what you WISH I had typed. Here's a little hint...the word is in all-caps.

"Unlike me? Great...provide the proof. Where have I not apologized for a wrong (keeping in mind that just because YOU disagree does not make me wrong)." - That's my opinion based on our many interactions. I do not keep a running tab and I will not go scouring for examples. You can take it for what it's worth.

"Have you ZERO self-awareness? I mean, seriously." - My attitude is fine. I was not the one casting insults. Perhaps you should work on your own self-awareness. Once again you lecture someone on a concept while directly breaking the concept (in the thread) that you are lecturing about.

"I did NOT IN ANY WAY unequivocally support him. So I say yet again, perhaps you should read what I actually typed, rather than what you WISH I had typed. Here's a little hint...the word is in all-caps." - You can play semantics all you want. The fact is that you seemed to strongly advocate his policies despite 'polls' and despite your supposed belief that controlling the national debt should be a top priority. Also, you have supported him in most if not all cases on bumpage.

[ViperOverLord]

Holy shit, guys! I started a thread that was supposed to be about politics, and you all go and turn it into ViperOverLord being a really funny guy.

If TGD hadn't just complained about the number of reported posts in here, I would report every single one of your off-topic posts, right fucking now!

Now let's get back to talking about how Obama might be hurting his chances to win a second term by doing what's right, instead of what's popular.
ps. Why "Simmons"? I know it sounds like my username, and I assume I'm supposed to be offended, but I really can't figure out why it's supposed to bother me.

I suggest that you not flame if you're going to pretend to operate under the pretense that you are interested in resuming the discussion.

[Timminz]

What are you talking about? I have not flamed you, or anyone else in this thread. I've only made two posts. BOTH about the actual fucking topic.

...and you've made me break my streak.... Be sure this will be the last time I let you derail my contribution to the conversation. If you wish to discuss anything outside of the context of this thread, I would kindly request that you do so in the appropriate place, which is not here.

Thank you.

[ViperOverLord]

What are you talking about? I have not flamed you, or anyone else in this thread. I've only made two posts. BOTH about the actual fucking topic.

...and you've made me break my streak.... Be sure this will be the last time I let you derail my contribution to the conversation. If you wish to discuss anything outside of the context of this thread, I would kindly request that you do so in the appropriate place, which is not here.

Thank you.

Really? It's not flaming? Look at post 3. Look at many of my posts and you'll see that I talked about the subject in great detail. Look at other posters that have not talked about the subject at all. Yet you post this supposed higher ground post about getting back to the subject and call me out and nobody else that actually did what the 'derailing' you are accusing. Optimus Prime and others have not even discussed the subject.

I made a side comment about your sig that directly quotes me and all the trolls jumped in. You yourself could have replied to the arguments I brought up in post 3 but you elected not to discuss this matter through your own actions. You have only flamed and flamed. Perhaps you should look at things more objectively rather than flame, cuss and talk down to people.

And I should note that I am using the word flame in the accepted sense of the word; Denoting your disinterest in talking about the subject and personal insulting other posters either directly or indirectly. I would not report your posts as flames as I don't think they are serious enough of flames. I want to make that clear before you get overly defensive.

NOW LET'S GET BACK TO THE DISCUSSION if that's indeed what you really want to do.

[Timminz]

reported.

That's enough.

[Timminz]

I'm sorry Greek Dog.

[b.k. barunt]

What are you talking about? I have not flamed you, or anyone else in this thread. I've only made two posts. BOTH about the actual fucking topic.

...and you've made me break my streak.... Be sure this will be the last time I let you derail my contribution to the conversation. If you wish to discuss anything outside of the context of this thread, I would kindly request that you do so in the appropriate place, which is not here.

Thank you.

Really? It's not flaming? Look at post 3. Look at many of my posts and you'll see that I talked about the subject in great detail. Look at other posters that have not talked about the subject at all. Yet you post this supposed higher ground post about getting back to the subject and call me out and nobody else that actually did what the 'derailing' you are accusing. Optimus Prime and others have not even discussed the subject.

I made a side comment about your sig that directly quotes me and all the trolls jumped in. You yourself could have replied to the arguments I brought up in post 3 but you elected not to discuss this matter through your own actions. You have only flamed and flamed. Perhaps you should look at things more objectively rather than flame, cuss and talk down to people.

And I should note that I am using the word flame in the accepted sense of the word; Denoting your disinterest in talking about the subject and personal insulting other posters either directly or indirectly. I would not report your posts as flames as I don't think they are serious enough of flames. I want to make that clear before you get overly defensive.

NOW LET'S GET BACK TO THE DISCUSSION if that's indeed what you really want to do.

Does it never end? Will you never cease your incessant whining? Will pigs fly?


Honibaz

[ViperOverLord]

reported.

That's enough.

REPORTED. I properly explained myself and I will not be demeaned by your 'reports.' You also willfully have not discussed the topic since your original OP, because you were too busy flaming. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

[john9blue]

Reported everybody! Now it's a party.

[Timminz]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

[b.k. barunt]

reported.

That's enough.

REPORTED. I properly explained myself and I will not be demeaned by your 'reports.' You also willfully have not discussed the topic since your original OP, because you were too busy flaming. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

You're not being demeaned by his 'reports'. You're being demeaned by the aggressive ignorance of your posts. You, not Timminz 'reports', have catapulted yourself to instant stardom as the primary ass clown of this forum - take a poll and see if i'm wrong. Stop trying to blame others for your shortcomings and ferfuksake take a Midol or something. Cheers.


Honibaz

[notyou2]

reported.

That's enough.

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I personally think Obama is right by doing the right thing. Its' a breath of fresh air. I wish all politicians were more like him.

We need lots of Obamas in Canada. I wish he never moved there after he was born here.

[Woodruff]

"Unlike me? Great...provide the proof. Where have I not apologized for a wrong (keeping in mind that just because YOU disagree does not make me wrong).

That's my opinion based on our many interactions. I do not keep a running tab and I will not go scouring for examples. You can take it for what it's worth.

So as usual, you're throwing out a bunch of bullshit hoping that nobody will call you on it...but then someone does and you have to backpeddle yet again. You'd save yourself a lot of trouble if you'd just stop with the bullshit.

Have you ZERO self-awareness? I mean, seriously.

My attitude is fine. I was not the one casting insults.

Your attitude is far from fine. You routinely cast insults. Far more often than I, and I'm pretty consistent with them.

Perhaps you should work on your own self-awareness. Once again you lecture someone on a concept while directly breaking the concept (in the thread) that you are lecturing about.

My self-awareness is actually pretty good. I've routinely admitted my weaknesses in these fora. You're just a blowhard who appears to believe that admitting weakness equates to not being a man or something similarly neanderthalan.

I did NOT IN ANY WAY unequivocally support him. So I say yet again, perhaps you should read what I actually typed, rather than what you WISH I had typed. Here's a little hint...the word is in all-caps.

You can play semantics all you want.

I'm not playing semantics at all. You made a statement about me that was an outright lie. I have called you on it and as usual, you can't admit you were wrong.

The fact is that you seemed to strongly advocate his policies despite 'polls' and despite your supposed belief that controlling the national debt should be a top priority. Also, you have supported him in most if not all cases on bumpage.

If you believe I "strongly advocate his policies" you aren't paying very good attention. I've loudly stated quite a number of times how unhappy I am with Obama's policies. I absolutely have NOT "supported him in most if not all cases on Bumpage" and you make yourself look like an idiot in making that statement.

Really? It's not flaming? Look at post 3. Look at many of my posts and you'll see that I talked about the subject in great detail. Look at other posters that have not talked about the subject at all. Yet you post this supposed higher ground post about getting back to the subject and call me out and nobody else that actually did what the 'derailing' you are accusing. Optimus Prime and others have not even discussed the subject.

Optimus Prime? Whose multi are you again? Optimus Prime hasn't been in this thread at all.

[Woodruff]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

While what you say is true, it shouldn't be. It's really rather pathetic that it is true. I'm not necessarily convinced this is what Obama is doing, but I do wish that ALL of our politicians had this intention in mind.

[Timminz]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

While what you say is true, it shouldn't be. It's really rather pathetic that it is true.

Agreed.

[b.k. barunt]

What has Obama done? I mean of value. I didn't vote for the ass clown but if i would've been forced to take part in such a farce i would've picked him over McCain simply because McCain was such an obvious fuckhead - and yeah, Obama had a better looking wife. He hasn't even repealed the "Patriot Act", and he's made government health care a dirty word. He's a phony that fooled a lot of simpleminded dupes. Those of you who voted for him, enjoy.


Honibaz

[Woodruff]

What has Obama done? I mean of value. I didn't vote for the ass clown but if i would've been forced to take part in such a farce i would've picked him over McCain simply because McCain was such an obvious fuckhead - and yeah, Obama had a better looking wife. He hasn't even repealed the "Patriot Act", and he's made government health care a dirty word. He's a phony that fooled a lot of simpleminded dupes. Those of you who voted for him, enjoy.

You make it sound as though voting for Obama is worse than not having voted at all. I'm afraid I can't agree with that.

[ViperOverLord]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

This assumes that Obama is acting on some moral high ground and that he has no agenda whatsoever. There's plenty of people that would say that serving 'the new world order' instead of America is not what's right.

- Obama's socialist policies are not considered what's right by free market capitalists.

- Obama's payouts to greedy executives would not be considered what's right by American workers.

- Obama's support for taking away the right from union workers to anonymously vote would not be considered what's right by people that support democratic functions or the right of everyday workers. That would only empower the rank and file power brokers in business and politics and actually usurps proven democratic processes while giving an elite few the power to intimidate their adversaries.

- Obama hiring numerous unaccountable czars to do his dirty work would not be considered what's right by many that listened to his b.s. about transparency.

- There are plenty of people that don't think it was 'what's right' for Obama attempt to kick Fox News out of the press core just because they did actual reporting instead of propaganda supporting his causes. Communists are fond of controlling the media though.

- Speaking of communists, people don't think it's right that he tried to downplay his influence from extremists like his grandfather (communist) and his preacher (racist). I don't think people think that's what's right. We saw his willingness to play race politics with the Harvard police officer / black professor.

- People don't consider it what's right that he engages in generational theft by having an over $1 Trillion deficit.

- People don't consider it what's right that he rammed socialist health care at us even though it's inefficient and drives up costs. And all the while he lied and said that it wouldn't.

- People don't consider it what's right that he would fight a state's right to enforce it's borders and the literal safety of it's people. People don't think it's whats right that the FBI tries to attempt to catch the Arizona Sheriff in racial profiling and harasses him over the matter despite no credible evidence. Meanwhile it's not what's right that he allowed Black Panthers to harass voters at the voting polls.

I think you should look beyond your hero worship.

[Woodruff]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

This assumes that Obama is acting on some moral high ground and that he has no agenda whatsoever. There's plenty of people that would say that serving 'the new world order' instead of America is not what's right.

- Obama's socialist policies are not considered what's right by free market capitalists.

- Obama's payouts to greedy executives would not be considered what's right by American workers.

- Obama's support for taking away the right from union workers to anonymously vote would not be considered what's right by people that support democratic functions or the right of everyday workers. That would only empower the rank and file power brokers in business and politics and actually usurps proven democratic processes while giving an elite few the power to intimidate their adversaries.

- Obama hiring numerous unaccountable czars to do his dirty work would not be considered what's right by many that listened to his b.s. about transparency.

- There are plenty of people that don't think it was 'what's right' for Obama attempt to kick Fox News out of the press core just because they did actual reporting instead of propaganda supporting his causes. Communists are fond of controlling the media though.

- Speaking of communists, people don't think it's right that he tried to downplay his influence from extremists like his grandfather (communist) and his preacher (racist). I don't think people think that's what's right. We saw his willingness to play race politics with the Harvard police officer / black professor.

- People don't consider it what's right that he engages in generational theft by having an over $1 Trillion deficit.

- People don't consider it what's right that he rammed socialist health care at us even though it's inefficient and drives up costs. And all the while he lied and said that it wouldn't.

- People don't consider it what's right that he would fight a state's right to enforce it's borders and the literal safety of it's people. People don't think it's whats right that the FBI tries to attempt to catch the Arizona Sheriff in racial profiling and harasses him over the matter despite no credible evidence. Meanwhile it's not what's right that he allowed Black Panthers to harass voters at the voting polls.

I think you should look beyond your hero worship.

I could be mistaken, but I believe that Timminz is referring to "what's right" as being "what Obama believes is the right thing to do". That's a far different thing than anything you're referring to here.

[ViperOverLord]

What has Obama done? I mean of value. I didn't vote for the ass clown but if i would've been forced to take part in such a farce i would've picked him over McCain simply because McCain was such an obvious fuckhead - and yeah, Obama had a better looking wife. He hasn't even repealed the "Patriot Act", and he's made government health care a dirty word. He's a phony that fooled a lot of simpleminded dupes. Those of you who voted for him, enjoy.

You make it sound as though voting for Obama is worse than not having voted at all. I'm afraid I can't agree with that.

Of course you can't. You support Marxist policies instead of free market capitalism.

[ViperOverLord]

It's becoming clear to me that Obama is not politically savvy enough to maintain a full 8-year presidency. He is going down the road of "what's right" over the path of "what's popular" in his first term, and anyone who has done the most basic study of American politics knows that that kind of behaviour is unacceptable until the second term.

This assumes that Obama is acting on some moral high ground and that he has no agenda whatsoever. There's plenty of people that would say that serving 'the new world order' instead of America is not what's right.

- Obama's socialist policies are not considered what's right by free market capitalists.

- Obama's payouts to greedy executives would not be considered what's right by American workers.

- Obama's support for taking away the right from union workers to anonymously vote would not be considered what's right by people that support democratic functions or the right of everyday workers. That would only empower the rank and file power brokers in business and politics and actually usurps proven democratic processes while giving an elite few the power to intimidate their adversaries.

- Obama hiring numerous unaccountable czars to do his dirty work would not be considered what's right by many that listened to his b.s. about transparency.

- There are plenty of people that don't think it was 'what's right' for Obama attempt to kick Fox News out of the press core just because they did actual reporting instead of propaganda supporting his causes. Communists are fond of controlling the media though.

- Speaking of communists, people don't think it's right that he tried to downplay his influence from extremists like his grandfather (communist) and his preacher (racist). I don't think people think that's what's right. We saw his willingness to play race politics with the Harvard police officer / black professor.

- People don't consider it what's right that he engages in generational theft by having an over $1 Trillion deficit.

- People don't consider it what's right that he rammed socialist health care at us even though it's inefficient and drives up costs. And all the while he lied and said that it wouldn't.

- People don't consider it what's right that he would fight a state's right to enforce it's borders and the literal safety of it's people. People don't think it's whats right that the FBI tries to attempt to catch the Arizona Sheriff in racial profiling and harasses him over the matter despite no credible evidence. Meanwhile it's not what's right that he allowed Black Panthers to harass voters at the voting polls.

I think you should look beyond your hero worship.

I could be mistaken, but I believe that Timminz is referring to "what's right" as being "what Obama believes is the right thing to do". That's a far different thing than anything you're referring to here.

I'll give you that.

[InkL0sed]

What has Obama done? I mean of value. I didn't vote for the ass clown but if i would've been forced to take part in such a farce i would've picked him over McCain simply because McCain was such an obvious fuckhead - and yeah, Obama had a better looking wife. He hasn't even repealed the "Patriot Act", and he's made government health care a dirty word. He's a phony that fooled a lot of simpleminded dupes. Those of you who voted for him, enjoy.

You make it sound as though voting for Obama is worse than not having voted at all. I'm afraid I can't agree with that.

Of course you can't. You support Marxist policies instead of free market capitalism.

You are a fascist.

PS. That was a euphemism for "fucktard"

[Baron Von PWN]

reported.

That's enough.

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I personally think Obama is right by doing the right thing. Its' a breath of fresh air. I wish all politicians were more like him.

We need lots of Obamas in Canada. I wish he never moved there after he was born here.

Shut up! you're giving it away! I think we should invite Obama to become a Canadian . After he's done being president he could run for PM!