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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:53 am

jay_a2j wrote:Dang, I should of been a lawyer!


No, you shouldn't "of"
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:22 am

thegreekdog wrote:As an aside - Jay, if you were a lawyer you'd be computer illiterate like me...

Player - next time you might want to pm rdsrds2120 who is much more adept at computer issues than I am.



Oh but I am computer illiterate. I can turn it on and navigate to a few sites but that's about it. ;)
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:08 pm

What is liberalism?
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:10 pm

natty_dread wrote:What is liberalism?


Baby don't progress, don't progress, no more!

What is liberalism?!?!

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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:31 pm

natty_dread wrote:What is liberalism?



It's not what it is, it's what it has become. Liberal used to be a good term but it has morphed into something sinister, something that small children all over the world run from. (and many sane adults)

Liberalism: The haunting fear someone, somewhere, can help themselves.

I personally view it as people who want all kinds of crazy "rights" all the while trying their best to limit the rights of others. ie. San Francisco has BANNED Happy Meal toys in their city! (It might cause kids to eat the food and GAIN WEIGHT!) So of course the libs came up with a solution.... :roll:
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:38 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:3.

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If you notice...only the white people are carrying American flags. I bet they are liberals!


... The civil rights act of 1964 passed because the huge majority of Republicans voted for it while a majority of Democrats did not.

... I guess the Republicans were considered the liberals back then. Indeed, the vast majority of African Americans were Republican.

... Then came the plantation policies of the Dems... and look at American inner cities today.

... But the white dudes holding the flags, certianly liberal for their time, party irrelevant.

...


Hilarious. I didn't get the "plantation policies" reference though. Everything else was a genius parody.


... For your reference.

http://www.unclesamsplantation.com/


That was great- I really liked this as the primary point: "The welfare system enslaves the poor on a subsidized, legal plantation"

You'd literally have to be a Nazi to consider that a valid comparison.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:52 pm

I feel honored to be in this thread. As for liberals being evil, not really. Liberals are people whooo:

A Dictionary wrote:1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.
( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.
of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4.
favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5.
favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.
of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7.
free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8.
open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
9.
characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
10.
given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11.
not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12.
of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13.
of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.


That's it to it's definiton. Jay, I think that you're just considering the radical democrats. Not every Demo is a Liberal, just like not every Republican is a conservative (and vice versa). They carry a high correlation I imagine, but I don't think it's fair to people like me (liberal) and other to just group us in with a bunch of extreme lawmakers (i.e, the Happy Meal Toy problem). I define myself as a liberal because I'm really open-minded and support equality yada yada yada that whole thing, not because I'm out to control people's lives or anything silly like that.

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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:41 pm

Symmetry wrote:That was great- I really liked this as the primary point: "The welfare system enslaves the poor on a subsidized, legal plantation"

You'd literally have to be a Nazi to consider that a valid comparison.


Godwin's law, ftw.

As to things liberalism lead to:
Equal Voting rights
Fair worker compensation
basically general fairness

Things the modern term "liberal" leads to:
Frivolous law suits
Legally mandated discrimination against majorities
socialist policies, such as the welfare state
mass political corruption


that's about it.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:36 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
natty_dread wrote:What is liberalism?



It's not what it is, it's what it has become. Liberal used to be a good term but it has morphed into something sinister, something that small children all over the world run from. (and many sane adults)

Liberalism: The haunting fear someone, somewhere, can help themselves.

I personally view it as people who want all kinds of crazy "rights" all the while trying their best to limit the rights of others. ie. San Francisco has BANNED Happy Meal toys in their city! (It might cause kids to eat the food and GAIN WEIGHT!) So of course the libs came up with a solution.... :roll:


With that definition and example, I agree that to a certain extent that some people of a "liberal orientation" can be extreme (just like neo-cons!).

So, is jay mistaking Liberalism for liberal extremists? Has radical liberalism become the norm? ...?
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Aradhus on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:41 pm

Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:43 pm

Aradhus wrote:Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.


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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:43 pm

Aradhus wrote:Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.


What the Hell is Z-?
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:01 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
Aradhus wrote:Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.


What the Hell is Z-?


Not A.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby AAFitz on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:07 pm

1. Safer working conditions
2. Safer drinking water
3. Safer air to breath
4. Safer cars
5. Safer planes
6. Safer trains
7. Safer car-planes
8. Safer food
9. Safer environment
10. Safer homes
11. Safer pharmecuticals
12. Safer everything
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Aradhus on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:09 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
Aradhus wrote:Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.


Wise advise comes from all sides. :D Are you a fan of Aristotle? :)


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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:14 pm

Aradhus wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
Aradhus wrote:Just because a person defines themselves as being A does not mean they are consistenly A. Judge not A, but the person claiming to be A whilst being Z-.


Wise advise comes from all sides. :D Are you a fan of Aristotle? :)


The football player? Nah, his hair is too greasy.


The philosopher. He likes to describe things as A and B. For example, his famous "A is A". Or, "If A can be said of B, then A is of the category B." (On classification, I think that was subject 5 or 6).
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby radiojake on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:51 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:Legally mandated discrimination against majorities


Are you fucking serious?
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Woodruff on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:35 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
natty_dread wrote:What is liberalism?


It's not what it is, it's what it has become. Liberal used to be a good term but it has morphed into something sinister, something that small children all over the world run from. (and many sane adults)

Liberalism: The haunting fear someone, somewhere, can help themselves.


God, you're an idiot.

jay_a2j wrote:I personally view it as people who want all kinds of crazy "rights" all the while trying their best to limit the rights of others.


You've just described the Republican Party, Jay. In fact, not only that, you have just described the Religious Right sector of the Republican Party.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:07 pm

radiojake wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:Legally mandated discrimination against majorities


Are you fucking serious?


Have you read the contents of executive order 11246? I have. It is still in effect.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby radiojake on Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:32 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:
radiojake wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:Legally mandated discrimination against majorities


Are you fucking serious?


Have you read the contents of executive order 11246? I have. It is still in effect.



Ah, you have a problem with affirmative action - I see - While it's not a perfect system, you can not call it legally mandated discrimination against majorities.

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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby john9blue on Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:25 am

radiojake wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
radiojake wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:Legally mandated discrimination against majorities


Are you fucking serious?


Have you read the contents of executive order 11246? I have. It is still in effect.



Ah, you have a problem with affirmative action - I see - While it's not a perfect system, you can not call it legally mandated discrimination against majorities.


but that's what it is.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:03 am

Yeah, it's still discrimination based on skin color.
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Postby Mr_Adams on Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:41 am

And we are just supposed to lay down and take it "for the greater good" or some bull.
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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:21 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, it's still discrimination based on skin color.



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Re: Things Liberalism Leads To.......

Postby Timminz on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:39 pm

Mr_Adams wrote:And we are just supposed to lay down and take it "for the greater good" or some bull.


I personally think you should stand up for yourself, and stop blaming others for your problems. If you've got a problem with the black guy who got the job you felt you deserved, just man up, and kick his (or her) ass already.

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Tournament Achievement (6) General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (10) Tournament Contribution (1) General Contribution (1)

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