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Night Strike wrote:john9blue wrote:Woodruff wrote:And aside from all of those quotes, you never did answer me as to why my lack of knowledge of the Senator's gender has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with the issue.
Hell, I could've played the dishonest game and just said that it was a typo on my part and I meant to type "she" there...nobody would've been able to dispute that.
But I didn't.[/list] So why are you playing the dishonest game, John?
for the last time, i don't have a problem with your position on the issue of disabled veterans. i have a problem with you talking about something you don't know about (in this case, an article that you didn't read).
why would i be debating you on the "issue" of COL for veterans if i agreed with you on that issue? doesn't make sense.
it's interesting watching you weasel your way out of situations in which your ignorance has been exposed. your recent claim that tax increases cannot negatively affect businesses comes to mind. i would have more respect for you if you were able to admit when you were clearly and undeniably wrong. but once again you took the low road and got exposed as a child who can't admit his mistakes.
Why should any upward cost of living adjustment (that are never adjusted down, fyi) for anyone getting money from the government be automatic when those same adjustments aren't automatic for private sector employees, especially in a down economy?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the tea-party that wants to shrink government?
bedub1 wrote:Is it OWS that wants equality for the common man?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the religious right that wants the bible to be the constitution?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the bigots that wants to take away peoples rights?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the ron pauls that want equal rights?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the rmoney's that want to f*ck over the 99% to make the 1% richer?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the angry/scared people that wants to take over the world with a larger army?
bedub1 wrote:Is it the NSA people who want to watch your every move?
bedub1 wrote:Whatever happened to personal responsibility and compassion for your neighbor?
Symmetry wrote:Surely the government has a degree of responsibility toward those it employs.
I'm not sure that your "pay cuts for marines" rhetoric will play out too well.
Night Strike wrote:Symmetry wrote:Surely the government has a degree of responsibility toward those it employs.
I'm not sure that your "pay cuts for marines" rhetoric will play out too well.
It also provides those adjustments to people who live off the government without working for the government. And either way, you still didn't address my point: the government gets all its money from the private sector (or through debt), so if the private sector isn't providing cost of living adjustments, why is the government automatically doing so?
john9blue wrote:Woodruff wrote:And aside from all of those quotes, you never did answer me as to why my lack of knowledge of the Senator's gender has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with the issue.
Hell, I could've played the dishonest game and just said that it was a typo on my part and I meant to type "she" there...nobody would've been able to dispute that.
But I didn't. So why are you playing the dishonest game, John?
for the last time, i don't have a problem with your position on the issue of disabled veterans. i have a problem with you talking about something you don't know about (in this case, an article that you didn't read).
john9blue wrote:why would i be debating you on the "issue" of COL for veterans if i agreed with you on that issue? doesn't make sense.
john9blue wrote:it's interesting watching you weasel your way out of situations in which your ignorance has been exposed.
john9blue wrote:i would have more respect for you if you were able to admit when you were clearly and undeniably wrong. but once again you took the low road and got exposed as a child who can't admit his mistakes.
Night Strike wrote:Why should any upward cost of living adjustment (that are never adjusted down, fyi) for anyone getting money from the government be automatic when those same adjustments aren't automatic for private sector employees, especially in a down economy?
Symmetry wrote:Night Strike wrote:Symmetry wrote:Surely the government has a degree of responsibility toward those it employs.
I'm not sure that your "pay cuts for marines" rhetoric will play out too well.
It also provides those adjustments to people who live off the government without working for the government. And either way, you still didn't address my point: the government gets all its money from the private sector (or through debt), so if the private sector isn't providing cost of living adjustments, why is the government automatically doing so?
Source your claims. I'd like proof that the private sector doesn't provide cost of living adjustments, and that the government gets all its money from the private sector (or through debt).
You're getting increasingly ridiculous, so I hope it's time to ask you to back some of your claims up.
In the private sector, contracts with cost-of-living raises have been disappearing over the past several decades. The reasons include the low level of annual inflation, the waning power of unions, and employees' focus on other benefits, like health insurance.
The pay raises companies offer today are more likely to depend on productivity and profitability than on the level of inflation. Employers want to avoid automatic pay increases. They would rather give a one-time bonus to counteract a year of higher inflation than be stuck with permanent increases.
Night Strike wrote:Why should any upward cost of living adjustment (that are never adjusted down, fyi) for anyone getting money from the government be automatic when those same adjustments aren't automatic for private sector employees, especially in a down economy?
Woodruff wrote:Night Strike wrote:Why should any upward cost of living adjustment (that are never adjusted down, fyi) for anyone getting money from the government be automatic when those same adjustments aren't automatic for private sector employees, especially in a down economy?
So you don't believe that the US Government should stand by the promises they make to military veterans? That'd make a hell of a recruiting slogan.
ccording to Rothbard, the corruption of the right began in the ten years after the end of the Second World War. Before then, a strong movement of journalists, writers, and even politicians had formed during the New Deal and after. There was a burgeoning literature to explain why New Deal-style central planning was bad for American liberty. They also saw that central planning and war were linked as two socialistic programs.
The experience of war was telling. Prices were controlled by central edict. Businesses were not free to buy and sell. Government spending went through the roof. The Fed's money machine ran constantly. The war was a continuation of the New Deal by others means. They learned that a president dictatorial enough to manipulate the country into war would think nothing of ending liberty at home.
There were wonderful intellectuals in this movement: Frank Chodorov, John T. Flynn, Garet Garrett, Albert Jay Nock, Rose Wilder Lane, and dozens of others. This movement didn't want to conserve anything but liberty. They wanted to overthrow the alien regime that had taken hold of the country and restore respect for the Constitution. They believed in the free market as a creative mechanism to improve society. They favored a restoration of the gold standard, decentralized government, and peace and friendship with all nations (as George Washington wanted).
Murray Rothbard recounts all this, and then enters into the picture. He was a central player in the unfolding events. As a young man, he first encountered the new generation of people on the right who departed dramatically from the old. They were the first "neoconservatives." They favored war as a means. They were soft on executive dictatorship. They considered economics rather trivial compared with the struggle against international foes.
They found new uses for the state in the domestic realm as well. They like the CIA, the FBI, and no amount of military spending was enough for them. A leader of the movement—William F. Buckley—even called for a "totalitarian bureaucracy within our shores" so long as Russia, which had been an alley in the war, had a communist system.
This transformation was formative for Rothbard. He began an intellectual journey that would lead to a break from the movement that was now calling itself conservative. He studied with Ludwig von Mises during and after his graduate school years. He wrote a seminal book on economics. He wrote at a fevered pace for the popular press. By 1965, he found that he was pretty much alone in carrying on the Old Right vision. Most everyone else had died or had entered into that long trajectory that would lead to George Bush.
As Thomas Woods writes in the introduction, "It is not just a history of the Old Right, or of the anti-interventionist tradition in America. It is the story—at least in part—of Rothbard's own political and intellectual development: the books he read, the people he met, the friends he made, the organizations he joined, and so much more."
Night Strike wrote:Woodruff wrote:Night Strike wrote:Why should any upward cost of living adjustment (that are never adjusted down, fyi) for anyone getting money from the government be automatic when those same adjustments aren't automatic for private sector employees, especially in a down economy?
So you don't believe that the US Government should stand by the promises they make to military veterans? That'd make a hell of a recruiting slogan.
It's easy to make a ton of promises based in the future when you know you don't have to be around to carry them out. And like I have said, military veterans should be the only group the federal government should be providing long-term benefits to. I say cut long-term welfare payments so we know there will be enough/more money to give to veterans.
Allen West wrote:“We need you to come in and lock shields to strengthen up the men that will go into the fight for you. To let these other women know, on the other side, these Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women who have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness, to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.”
Juan_Bottom wrote:the Republican War on Women.
Juan_Bottom wrote:Awww, normally I'd agree with you, but I thought that it was pretty relevant to his character because Allen West is part of the Republican War on Women.Allen West wrote:“We need you to come in and lock shields to strengthen up the men that will go into the fight for you. To let these other women know, on the other side, these Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women who have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness, to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.”
Now his own wife can't even negotiate what deviant sex acts he does to her body.
Night Strike wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:the Republican War on Women.
Doesn't exist.
By the way, you should post the ad where Allen West received his deployment orders and was preparing his troops for that deployment on the same night his opponent was arrested for disorderly conduct in a bar.
“Sending millionaires unemployment checks is a case study in out-of-control spending,” U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, said in an e-mail. “Providing welfare to the wealthy undermines the program for those who need it most while burdening future generations with senseless debt.”
I felt that the best way to ‘honor’ Ms. Bachmann’s visit was to make a contribution to your campaign. Even though I do not vote in Minnesota, please do everything in your power to take away this evil woman’s soapbox.
The Graves campaign told the Chicago Tribune that it experienced a 400 percent growth in donations from the Chicago area last week, although it’s unclear to what extent the Synagogue attendees are responsible for this.
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(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
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