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Funkyterrance wrote:I liked that movie but I found the comedy aspect you're talking about to be a little cheezy. Again, I don't like to be hit over the head with humor, dark or otherwise.
BigBallinStalin wrote:
What's fun about the scene in that youtube video is that he's absolutely serious while providing some interesting commentary about a silly-sounding song. And you see the furniture wrapped up, the drunk guy, the newspaper rolled out. Christian Bale really pulled it off well--that dance was perfect. His tone of voice was great.
Perhaps you're not a fan of dark comedy in general?
RE: your dialogue with Haggis, that seems to be the case...
Funkyterrance wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:
What's fun about the scene in that youtube video is that he's absolutely serious while providing some interesting commentary about a silly-sounding song. And you see the furniture wrapped up, the drunk guy, the newspaper rolled out. Christian Bale really pulled it off well--that dance was perfect. His tone of voice was great.
Perhaps you're not a fan of dark comedy in general?
RE: your dialogue with Haggis, that seems to be the case...
It's a well done movie, no doubt, so I'm not going to trash it. I found NBKs decent as well.
It's interesting though, when I watch these scenes that are apparently considered "black humor" by others, a part of my mind is triggered that has nothing to do with humor and more introspective in nature. When I watch scenes such as this in the company of others I have noticed certain people getting rather excited and laughing etc and it somewhat interrupts my immersion in the scene. I suppose this is due to my opinion that it's based more on satire than comedy and therefore digested differently by my mind.
BigBallinStalin wrote:What's your top 5 for black comedies (PC AUTODELETE!!) dark humor films?
patches wrote:Trainspotting
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:patches wrote:Trainspotting
One of the few movies where I've been uncomfortable watching it. That dead baby scene was... ugh... made me cringe.
-TG
patches70 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:What's your top 5 for black comedies (PC AUTODELETE!!) dark humor films?
Dr Strangelove
Shaun of the Dead
Trainspotting
True Romance
Very Bad Things
There are probably others that I am forgetting.
Dr Strangelove is arguably the all time best dark comedy.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:I actually avoided American Psycho for a long time based on many of my friends not liking it. When I finally watched it it was probably one of the most pleasant surprises I've had watching a movie.
The violence is sometimes too over the top (chainsaw anyone?) but I thought it was not only amusing and entertaining, but also was trying to convey a message.
Spoilers ahoy:
Or it's all in his mind, but that would just be boring.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Is the simple truth not as exciting for you?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Is the simple truth not as exciting for you?
Got any proof that it's all in his mind?
It seems most likely to me that some of it is in his mind (i.e. we see it from his point of view as an unreliable narrator and some things are exaggerated, maybe the girls look hotter than they really are, etc) but the bulk of it happens. Except for the part where he loses it at the end of course. It's pretty hard to tell how much of that part happened.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Really?
One thing I think is a failure on my part is people keep coming out of the film thinking that its all a dream, and I never intended that. All I wanted was to be ambiguous in the way that the book was. I think it's a failure of mine in the final scene because I just got the emphasis wrong. I should have left it more open ended. It makes it look like it was all in his head, and as far as I'm concerned, it's not (the complete interview can be found here).
Haggis_McMutton wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Really?
Yeah, you can interpret it like that. Like you say at the end there's no real way to know how far he went if we've established the narrative as unreliable. The fact that he scribbled that stuff doesn't really say anything. I mean you could argue that he did the murders but the methods are exaggerated and you can get any combination of real and fake you want.
About the police and realism, this movie world is clearly an exaggeration of our world.
Mistaken identity on a ridiculous/hilarious level seems to be commonplace, so I don't think the realism accusation sinks the theory that he really killed people.
The book is much more ambiguous and the producers of the movie have pretty much stated outright that they intended the movie to be equally ambiguous.
See imdb FAQOne thing I think is a failure on my part is people keep coming out of the film thinking that its all a dream, and I never intended that. All I wanted was to be ambiguous in the way that the book was. I think it's a failure of mine in the final scene because I just got the emphasis wrong. I should have left it more open ended. It makes it look like it was all in his head, and as far as I'm concerned, it's not (the complete interview can be found here).
Basically there is no absolute truth to be had in this case. So seeing that, the benefit of my interpretation (and indeed the argument between the two interpretations) is that it gives you something to talk about with the people after you just saw the movie.
patches70 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:What's your top 5 for black comedies (PC AUTODELETE!!) dark humor films?
Dr Strangelove
Shaun of the Dead
Trainspotting
True Romance
Very Bad Things
There are probably others that I am forgetting.
Dr Strangelove is arguably the all time best dark comedy.
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