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thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
AndyDufresne wrote:Guillotines.
--Andy
BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
AndyDufresne wrote:It is high time we start eliminating the media. Lets just bump the 2nd amendment up a spot.
thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
Ah HA! But, I put it in both threads!
Gillipig wrote:There are fundamental flaws with the way politics works in general, I wouldn't say one particular party is so much more dysfunctional than the other, we're looking at two rotten apples but only pointing at one of them.
BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
You don't incentivise politiciaons, you teach people. They then vote for the right thing.
tzor wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:It is high time we start eliminating the media. Lets just bump the 2nd amendment up a spot.
But we're REPUBLICANS, damn it. We just let natural selection and the free market do its proper work and function.
They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.
BigBallinStalin wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html
I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
You don't incentivise politiciaons, you teach people. They then vote for the right thing.
People with undergrad degrees can still be uninformed.
PLAYER57832 wrote:tzor wrote:They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.
The first amendment , the second amendment or the free market?
tzor wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:tzor wrote:They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.
The first amendment , the second amendment or the free market?
The liberally biased main stream media.
PLAYER57832 wrote:If you believe that, then you have no idea what real liberals even say, never mind what liberal bias sounds like. The media is pretty right of the center, with the exception of homosexuality and a couple other narrow issues.
Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBSā āEvening News,ā The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.
MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.
tzor wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:If you believe that, then you have no idea what real liberals even say, never mind what liberal bias sounds like. The media is pretty right of the center, with the exception of homosexuality and a couple other narrow issues.
The media is "right of center" if you consider the center, on a scale of 1 to 10 to be, say a 2. I'm sorry but 3 is still left of 5.
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Gillipig wrote:I thought I already closed this topic. There are fundamental flaws in both parties because the system which the parties live by is flawed.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Gillipig wrote:I thought I already closed this topic. There are fundamental flaws in both parties because the system which the parties live by is flawed.
That is absolutely true. However since destroying both parties and creating an entirely new system is not an option for Americans today... we have to work with what we can do. That means debating each party, while working within and outside to accomplish real goals.
Gillipig wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Gillipig wrote:I thought I already closed this topic. There are fundamental flaws in both parties because the system which the parties live by is flawed.
That is absolutely true. However since destroying both parties and creating an entirely new system is not an option for Americans today... we have to work with what we can do. That means debating each party, while working within and outside to accomplish real goals.
Then how will a new system come about? Any form of government is only strong as long as the people support it. If people stopped voting for the best of two bad alternatives and just withheld their vote we would soon see a change in the political climate.
PLAYER57832 wrote:And in the case of homosexuality, the current moderate position would have been an extreme left position back then.
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