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Postby jayde on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:28 am

Dear Red States:

We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft.

You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines, 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

Finally, we're taking the good pot, too.

Peace out,

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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Hologram on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:34 am

The really sad thing is that they wouldn't want us to stay anyway.

Though, it's happy for them. Maybe we really should just leave....
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:43 am

I think I received a similar spam message the other day.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby OnlyAmbrose on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:50 am

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's


That is, of course, if you leave out Orange County. :P
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby DaGip on Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:07 am

He forgot to mention that the Red States get the Bread Basket and all the good farm land...the Blue States don't stand a chance!
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:36 am

DaGip wrote:He forgot to mention that the Red States get the Bread Basket and all the good farm land...the Blue States don't stand a chance!

Red states also get the oil fields, mineral fields, and Texas and Wyoming which are some of the few states that are NOT struggling economy wise.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby jbrettlip on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:00 am

and the blue states get soon to be bankrupt CA!! HA AHAHA... But seriously, this decision should have been made 30 years ago. Now the Northeast has crumbling infrastructure and all the tax dollars were diverted to the red states...SHARE THE WEALTH!!!

So you see, you are arguing that your tax dollars shouldn't go to states that you don't agree with. When the red states (republicans) are saying the EXACT SAME THING on an individual basis!!! It is a premise of socialism that the poorer states (AL, MS) get money from the richer (NY, MA). And you ridicule that at the same time you are voting for a man who wants to take money from workers and give it to non workers.

So basically the whole premise of your post is shit.

PS Red states also get all the nukes, and Norfolk (atlantic fleet and nuclear subs.) I hope NYC enjoys its blockade...atleast they will have plenty of rats to eat.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:17 pm

Also, wouldn't this "Nuevo California" be, you know, divided by all the red states? While all the red states are conveniently connected.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Frigidus on Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:29 pm

Excerpt from fuckthesouth.com:

f*ck the South. f*ck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the f*ck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. f*ck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. f*ck off.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Grooveman2007 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:40 pm

fuckthesouth.com seemed to forget about such founding fathers as G 'dubs and TJ, who were Virginians. Not to mention Madison, who's "the little guy, five-foot-one and full of fun" as my old APUSH teacher once called him.

And MTG, this "Nuevo California" will be even more broken up after this next election.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby hecter on Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:45 pm

I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:05 pm

hecter wrote:I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...

If anything, my state is probably giving money to blue states, and it is one of the reddest states there is. Not to mention (as was posted before) Wyoming's is one of the few states that is not suffering from the economy right now.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby hecter on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:12 pm

Frigidus wrote:Excerpt from fuckthesouth.com:

Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states.

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hecter wrote:I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...

If anything, my state is probably giving money to blue states, and it is one of the reddest states there is. Not to mention (as was posted before) Wyoming's is one of the few states that is not suffering from the economy right now.

See, just because your state is doing well doesn't mean that all are doing well. Very clear line in the sand there.
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Postby Frigidus on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:21 pm

Actually, Wyoming pays the least amount of taxes per capita in the entire United States. :o
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Grooveman2007 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:37 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
hecter wrote:I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...

If anything, my state is probably giving money to blue states, and it is one of the reddest states there is. Not to mention (as was posted before) Wyoming's is one of the few states that is not suffering from the economy right now.


You can't look at the issue from the perspective of "what states pay more taxes" because then you'd be comparing states like California to states like North Dakota where obviously the highly populated Blue State would pay more taxes than the less-populated Red State. The tax difference needs to be looked at by person. How much does a Californian making $50,000 pay compared to a North Dakotan making $50,000? Red States receive more federal funding because there are fewer dollars collected from local taxes simply because there are fewer people to pay those local taxes.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby hecter on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:44 pm

Grooveman2007 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
hecter wrote:I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...

If anything, my state is probably giving money to blue states, and it is one of the reddest states there is. Not to mention (as was posted before) Wyoming's is one of the few states that is not suffering from the economy right now.


You can't look at the issue from the perspective of "what states pay more taxes" because then you'd be comparing states like California to states like North Dakota where obviously the highly populated Blue State would pay more taxes than the less-populated Red State. The tax difference needs to be looked at by person. How much does a Californian making $50,000 pay compared to a North Dakotan making $50,000? Red States receive more federal funding because there are fewer dollars collected from local taxes simply because there are fewer people to pay those local taxes.

So this means that you support spreading the wealth?! Pinko commie bastard!!!!111
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby jbrettlip on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:45 pm

Glad someone mentioned the fact that Jefferson was a Virginian, and they had him WRITE the documents, because VA was the most powerful colony. Without VA, there would have been no revolution.

This thread just shows how "pie in the sky" liberals can be. "See what happens when they don't get our tax dollars...waah, waah, waah." Guess what would happen...The red states would take over. CA is bankrupt. MI is bankrupt. NY is bankrupt. MA is bankrupt. Go ahead and secede. The red states would roll over you immediately. It wouldn't even be close.

Anyway, vote for your socialist. I will vote FOR SMALLER government. If anything THE WHOLE IDEA of your article is : Rich educated people live in blue states. Poor dumb people live in red states. We are mad that poor states are gettting more of our money....so raise taxes on the rich (blue states) to help our country. Seems to be a disconnect in that logic. You should vote for the republican who wants to lower taxes, stop bullshit spending and try to get this damn deficit erased, to work on the national debt.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby pancakemix on Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:53 pm

I wish someone had told me about this. Man, if I could vote...
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Frigidus on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:03 pm

Meanwhile, in London..."Your majesties, the yanks are quarrelling 'mongst themselves once more! The moment to strike is upon us!" "Mmmmyes, let us put down the rebellious curs."
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby Grooveman2007 on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:10 pm

hecter wrote:
Grooveman2007 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
hecter wrote:I think the issue is that you red states are just so fucking hypocritical... Obama says he wants to share the wealth and the Republicans jump all over that, calling him a socialist and a communist ect. ect. And HOW much money are the red states getting from blue states? Ya... Let's see how well things go when they stop sharing the wealth...

If anything, my state is probably giving money to blue states, and it is one of the reddest states there is. Not to mention (as was posted before) Wyoming's is one of the few states that is not suffering from the economy right now.


You can't look at the issue from the perspective of "what states pay more taxes" because then you'd be comparing states like California to states like North Dakota where obviously the highly populated Blue State would pay more taxes than the less-populated Red State. The tax difference needs to be looked at by person. How much does a Californian making $50,000 pay compared to a North Dakotan making $50,000? Red States receive more federal funding because there are fewer dollars collected from local taxes simply because there are fewer people to pay those local taxes.

So this means that you support spreading the wealth?! Pinko commie bastard!!!!111


If you look at the issue in terms of states, then yes. But it's intellectually dishonest to compare California and North Dakota on equal terms because they're both states while failing to account for the massive difference in population. On a person to person basis, there is very little difference between the taxes paid by a Californian and a North Dakotan making the same amount of money.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby oVo on Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:26 pm

jbrettlip wrote:I will vote FOR SMALLER government. If anything THE WHOLE IDEA of your article is : Rich educated people live in blue states. Poor dumb people live in red states. We are mad that poor states are gettting more of our money....so raise taxes on the rich (blue states) to help our country. Seems to be a disconnect in that logic. You should vote for the republican who wants to lower taxes, stop bullshit spending and try to get this damn deficit erased, to work on the national debt.


Oh come on... SMALLER government is a joke that is never going to happen. The Republicans owned Washington from 2000 to 2006 and did we get lower taxes, see an end to wasteful spending or progress made towards controlling the national debt ? ? ? Um... no we didn't. When you say "You should vote for the Republican who wants to lower taxes" the key word is wants because in reality the maverick wants to be president and has reached the point of saying anything in his attempt to reach that goal.

You can vote for SMALLER government all you like, but it's not gonna happen regardless of who gets elected. Taxes are gonna happen regardless of who gets elected and there are poor dumb people living everywhere because the edumacation system has left plenty of children behind. The disconnect in logic is that John McCain is going to initiate change if he is allowed to relocate his base of opperations to the Oval Office. I have my doubts that any newly elected president can institute a positive change after the hawkish cowboy politics of the last eight years... but Barack Obama is likely to receive many undecided votes because he is the closest to that potential as there is at the moment. Not anotherfuckingrepublican.
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Re: Nuevo California

Postby jbrettlip on Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:15 pm

Smaller government can happen. Reagan shrunk the federal government. Others have as well. W needs to be left out of this, because I don't know a single person who has enjoyed his presidency. The two biggest expanses in government were FDR and JFK who both had majorities in the house and Senate. More social programs, entitlement programs and spending occured then.

Will McCain be that leader to fix our budget. (Note not the economy, but the budget) WHo knows? With a dem house and senate, probably not. But I owuld rather have 4 years of gridlock, than rubberstamping all the dems spending promises, while hoping the 5% of US that earns the most bankrolls it all.

In fact that "Secession Letter" would be better coming from Bill Gates, rather than a state that isn't always democrat. Take 5% of our population to Bermuda, and let the other 95% of us try to make the budget work with Obama's ideas.
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