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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby Rodion on Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:58 am

How are the 48 better teams determined?

a) top 6 out of every group of 8
b) top 48 out of one big group of 64

Besides round 1a+b scores determining seeds for round 2, do they have the effect of carrying over or will everyone start with a "clean sheet" record of 0-0?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:45 pm

I am not 100% sure on the answers to any of your questions.
Swifte, I believe it is 10 turns throughout the tournament, but you raise a valid point.
Rodion, I believe it is the top 48 out of all 64 teams, and the scores do carry over, but I am not entirely certain on either point.

I will attempt to get definite answers for you from bigWham.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:52 pm

UPDATE:

The rule on sitting is 10 turns total, throughout the tournament.
I will say, however, that I personally do not agree with either of the rules concerning sitting and have recommended to bW that they be repealed for this tournament and not be used for future tournaments.

The 48 best teams will be the top 48 out of all 64 teams, irrespective of groups.
Scores will carry over from round 1A to round 1B, but not from round 1B to round 2A.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby Rodion on Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:37 am

Sempai, thanks for the speedy research and response!
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby codierose on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:10 pm

is there a bracket to follow ?
or any results to follow ?
who is leading losing ?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby Rodion on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:19 pm

codierose wrote:is there a bracket to follow ?
or any results to follow ?
who is leading losing ?


http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ent_id=507
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby codierose on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:23 pm

Thank you sir
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:14 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Disclaimer: This is not a complaint, merely an observation.

Back in the day I used to play almost exclusively doubs, partnered by a great guy Daryth {he with far more willpower than I and able to cut the CC umbilical cord}. My recollection is of challenging games, few of which could be determined by Round 2.

Fast forward to 2014 and it seems so different. Is it me just getting older and more cynical? Am I involved in a freak series of seven games? Or are the rolls so lopsided that victory or defeat can be determined within one or two rounds? Of my seven games, six can be said to have been 'no contest' - either winning or losing with no real challenge or better/inferior gameplay. I could have partnered my cat & dog in some of them and they may have fared better by not clicking 'Start'.

So this is a question really. Are any of you others playing games that are 'all over' within a few turns and does it seem different to how things used to be?

Have tactics left the building?


You're probably just a better player now than you were a few years ago. Therefore, you can pretty much instantly recognize a win or a loss. Many (most?) games are probably decided within the first couple rounds as long as the dice or the players don't do anything too crazy after that.
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:19 am

sempaispellcheck wrote:UPDATE:

The rule on sitting is 10 turns total, throughout the tournament.
I will say, however, that I personally do not agree with either of the rules concerning sitting and have recommended to bW that they be repealed for this tournament and not be used for future tournaments.

The 48 best teams will be the top 48 out of all 64 teams, irrespective of groups.
Scores will carry over from round 1A to round 1B, but not from round 1B to round 2A.

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Disclaimer: This is a complaint.

The sitting rules have been awful in this whole series of tournaments ... if you can even call it that.* I appreciate that it's not your doing sempai; same thing happened to chap in the 1v1 tourney. If the site wants to get all crazy about sitter rules, then it needs to put together the long-awaited sitter feature. Until then the sitting "violations" in tournaments like these will go to those that are either unlucky or honest.

*The 1v1 tournament is basically dead right now, with no one responding to the growing number of players wondering what the hell is going on.
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby RobbieDub on Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:04 pm

should this get moved to the inactive tournament section?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:18 am

I am sorry - I had not realized all games had finished, and I had thought the next round would have started automatically.
I will PM bigWham shortly to start Round 1B.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:55 am

My apologies to all for the delay, but Round 1A results have finally been calculated and Round 1B groups have been made.

show: Rankings after Round 1A

show: Groups for Round 1B

Round 1B should start soon.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:07 pm

Awesome! Thanks sempai
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:38 am

What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:48 am

agentcom wrote:What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:41 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
agentcom wrote:What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

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OK, glad to hear more will be added. I'm already getting tired of a couple of these :)

My hope is that you'll soon expand it to random like it is in the 1v1 championship.
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby friendly1 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:25 am

The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:05 am

friendly1 wrote:The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?

I guess it slipped under the radar somehow. I'll take care of it as soon as I get the chance.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby friendly1 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:08 am

Thanks Sempai!
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Thu May 08, 2014 11:10 pm

Any chance you'll open up the maps for the next round?
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby jghost7 on Fri May 09, 2014 10:22 am

When does the next round start?


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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon May 12, 2014 10:37 am

jghost7 wrote:When does the next round start?


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Soon. Please bear in mind that I am not notified when each round finishes - I will ask bigWham if that can be changed.

Rankings after Round 1B have now been compiled.
Since no tiebreaker was specified, we will be using the default autotournament tiebreaker - total number of rounds of games won.
Teams are ordered using this tiebreaker on the AutoTournament page.

NOTES:
Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.
VioIet and NoSurvivors have been disqualified because NoSurvivors has been banned for point dumping.

Round 2A should start soon.

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby agentcom on Tue May 13, 2014 12:05 am

Cool. Thanks!
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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby dkmaster on Tue May 13, 2014 12:10 pm

Just send this pm to sempai and maybe some of you has an opinion to this matter :)

Hi sempai

Just looked at the big double tournament were round 2 is soon to start.

You have put in tiebraker rules that total rounds of won games count and that is ok

But looking at first team which is still in with only 5 points like my partner and I

Gabriel13 and Emilywink total rounds 41 and dkmaster, mrpinky total rounds 41

How did you decide that we were out and they were in ?

Another used tiebreaker in these large tournaments are wins going second. That should be used as tiebreaker rule number 2.

There I counted that gabriel/emily has 1 and dkmaster/mrpinky has 3

I didnt check the other yet but will do now and be back soon :D

But looking at the above we should still be in the tournament

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Re: The Championships - Doubles

Postby dkmaster on Tue May 13, 2014 12:39 pm

Just looked up the tiebreaker rules for auto tournaments

Ties in Score shall be broken by the following rules, applied in order:

Percentage of wins in the tournament as a whole
The cumulative number of Game rounds required to win the games they have won in the tournament (winning in less rounds is better)
The order in which the player joined the tournament (first player to join wins)

There is a third rule. I sure dont like it and prefere looking at win going second.

But looking at the third rule we would still be ahead as we joined first.
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