The Championships - Doubles [Winners: Swifte & cooldeals]

[Rodion]

How are the 48 better teams determined?

a) top 6 out of every group of 8
b) top 48 out of one big group of 64

Besides round 1a+b scores determining seeds for round 2, do they have the effect of carrying over or will everyone start with a "clean sheet" record of 0-0?

[sempaispellcheck]

I am not 100% sure on the answers to any of your questions.
Swifte, I believe it is 10 turns throughout the tournament, but you raise a valid point.
Rodion, I believe it is the top 48 out of all 64 teams, and the scores do carry over, but I am not entirely certain on either point.

I will attempt to get definite answers for you from bigWham.

sempai

[sempaispellcheck]

UPDATE:

The rule on sitting is 10 turns total, throughout the tournament.
I will say, however, that I personally do not agree with either of the rules concerning sitting and have recommended to bW that they be repealed for this tournament and not be used for future tournaments.

The 48 best teams will be the top 48 out of all 64 teams, irrespective of groups.
Scores will carry over from round 1A to round 1B, but not from round 1B to round 2A.

sempai

[Rodion]

Sempai, thanks for the speedy research and response!

[codierose]

is there a bracket to follow ?
or any results to follow ?
who is leading losing ?

[Rodion]

is there a bracket to follow ?
or any results to follow ?
who is leading losing ?

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ent_id=507

[codierose]

Thank you sir

[agentcom]

Disclaimer: This is not a complaint, merely an observation.

Back in the day I used to play almost exclusively doubs, partnered by a great guy [player]Daryth[/player] {he with far more willpower than I and able to cut the CC umbilical cord}. My recollection is of challenging games, few of which could be determined by Round 2.

Fast forward to 2014 and it seems so different. Is it me just getting older and more cynical? Am I involved in a freak series of seven games? Or are the rolls so lopsided that victory or defeat can be determined within one or two rounds? Of my seven games, six can be said to have been 'no contest' - either winning or losing with no real challenge or better/inferior gameplay. I could have partnered my cat & dog in some of them and they may have fared better by not clicking 'Start'.

So this is a question really. Are any of you others playing games that are 'all over' within a few turns and does it seem different to how things used to be?

Have tactics left the building?

You're probably just a better player now than you were a few years ago. Therefore, you can pretty much instantly recognize a win or a loss. Many (most?) games are probably decided within the first couple rounds as long as the dice or the players don't do anything too crazy after that.

[agentcom]

UPDATE:

The rule on sitting is 10 turns total, throughout the tournament.
I will say, however, that I personally do not agree with either of the rules concerning sitting and have recommended to bW that they be repealed for this tournament and not be used for future tournaments.

The 48 best teams will be the top 48 out of all 64 teams, irrespective of groups.
Scores will carry over from round 1A to round 1B, but not from round 1B to round 2A.

sempai

Disclaimer: This is a complaint.

The sitting rules have been awful in this whole series of tournaments ... if you can even call it that.* I appreciate that it's not your doing sempai; same thing happened to chap in the 1v1 tourney. If the site wants to get all crazy about sitter rules, then it needs to put together the long-awaited sitter feature. Until then the sitting "violations" in tournaments like these will go to those that are either unlucky or honest.

*The 1v1 tournament is basically dead right now, with no one responding to the growing number of players wondering what the hell is going on.

[RobbieDub]

should this get moved to the inactive tournament section?

[sempaispellcheck]

I am sorry - I had not realized all games had finished, and I had thought the next round would have started automatically.
I will PM bigWham shortly to start Round 1B.

sempai

[sempaispellcheck]

My apologies to all for the delay, but Round 1A results have finally been calculated and Round 1B groups have been made.

[spoiler=Rankings after Round 1A]1 artur1 Wharfedale7 6
2 TX AG 90 geko 6
3 Swifte cooldeals 6
4 *Pixar* codierose 6
5 Koganosi JBlombier 6
6 agentcom Graceless_ 6
7 pearljamrox2 WPBRJ 6
8 IanG7 kjg21 5
9 Casius Belius gas 5
10 Kingm bjonte 5
11 uckuki Robespierre__ 5
12 ckyrias italianipastido 5
13 jackal31 zips5000 5
14 Tazzy_J spudulica 5
15 Bigragooch jgalioto 5
16 Momo33 QuikSilver 5
17 Rodion josko.ri 4
18 Dako Chariot of Fire 4
19 smegal69 simmons4 4
20 osman76 rcfritz 4
21 shoop76 Tiller 4
22 Kid Moe ooge 4
23 bfunny27 DBandit70 4
24 nolefan5311 Egel 4
25 gannable IronWood 4
26 bpvball234 tony1973 4
27 MudPuppy EBConquer 4
28 PureTrauma keeperofsouls 4
29 RobbieDub OutSider 4
30 stevenshome hmsps 4
31 cjtails Slaylark 4
32 Leverpuller rjhankey 4
33 Guderian09 cptbeefalo 4
34 theheadholes pittsburgh00 4
35 friendly1 Treslie 3
36 angola slickstm 3
37 Triple 6 nokelberry 3
38 Leehar maasman 3
39 NoSurvivors VioIet 3
40 yanakis cille 3
41 Bigroo4601 aspalm 3
42 slickstick nibotha 3
43 I_AM_BOGEY Edgron 3
44 Flang Loose Canon 3
45 swt pimp Adolfo18 3
46 BlackKnight_6 joshzam 3
47 -Maximus- just surrender 3
48 PaRKoN TaelS 2
49 Conchobar PereiroSaus 2
50 jghost7 gambler21210 2
51 dakky21 jug68 2
52 concrete RKCVED 2
53 iop dh13 2
54 Donelladan ancessus 2
55 Coconutt alt1978 2
56 akabob2 alaskanassassin 2
57 SC MAN Mageplunka69 2
58 dkmaster MrPinky 1
59 chard Condor 1
60 Gabriel13 emilywink 1
61 blonderic Alexlau 1
62 shaneback ElectrickShock 1
63 samuelc812 aalii 1
64 chidone abygorb 0[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Groups for Round 1B]Group A:
artur1, Wharfedale7
Momo33, QuikSilver
Rodion, josko.ri
Leverpuller, rjhankey
Guderian09, cptbeefalo
PaRKoN, TaelS
Conchobar, PereiroSaus
chidone, abygorb

Group B:
TX AG 90, geko
Bigragooch, jgalioto
Dako, Chariot of Fire
cjtails, Slaylark
theheadholes, pittsburgh00
-Maximus-, just surrender
jghost7, gambler21210
samuelc812, aalii

Group C:
Swifte, cooldeals
Tazzy_J, spudulica
smegal69, simmons4
stevenshome, hmsps
friendly1, Treslie
BlackKnight_6, joshzam
dakky21, jug68
shaneback, ElectrickShock

Group D:
*Pixar*, codierose
jackal31, zips5000
osman76, rcfritz
RobbieDub, OutSider
angola, slickstm
swt pimp, Adolfo18
concrete, RKCVED
blonderic, Alexlau

Group E:
Koganosi, JBlombier
ckyrias, italianipastido
shoop76, Tiller
PureTrauma, keeperofsouls
Triple 6, nokelberry
Flang, Loose Canon
iop, dh13
Gabriel13, emilywink

Group F:
agentcom, Graceless_
uckuki, Robespierre__
Kid Moe, ooge
MudPuppy, EBConquer
Leehar, maasman
I_AM_BOGEY, Edgron
Donelladan, ancessus
chard, Condor

Group G:
pearljamrox2, WPBRJ
Kingm, bjonte
bfunny27, DBandit70
bpvball234, tony1973
NoSurvivors, VioIet
slickstick, nibotha
Coconutt, alt1978
dkmaster, MrPinky

Group H:
IanG7, kjg21
Casius Belius, gas
nolefan5311, Egel
gannable, IronWood
yanakis, cille
Bigroo4601, aspalm
akabob2, alaskanassassin
SC MAN, Mageplunka69[/spoiler]
Round 1B should start soon.

sempai

[agentcom]

Awesome! Thanks sempai

[agentcom]

What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

[sempaispellcheck]

What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

sempai

[agentcom]

What's up with the (sort of lame) map selection?

We choose a few maps that (we think) are relatively easy and simple for Round 1. Harder, more complex maps will be added as the tourney continues.

sempai

OK, glad to hear more will be added. I'm already getting tired of a couple of these

My hope is that you'll soon expand it to random like it is in the 1v1 championship.

[friendly1]

The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?

[sempaispellcheck]

The satellite tournament #1 for entry to this is not completed and no prizes have been issued. Has the final round for the satellite been forgotten?

I guess it slipped under the radar somehow. I'll take care of it as soon as I get the chance.

sempai

[friendly1]

Thanks Sempai!

[agentcom]

Any chance you'll open up the maps for the next round?

[jghost7]

When does the next round start?


J

[sempaispellcheck]

When does the next round start?


J

Soon. Please bear in mind that I am not notified when each round finishes - I will ask bigWham if that can be changed.

Rankings after Round 1B have now been compiled.
Since no tiebreaker was specified, we will be using the default autotournament tiebreaker - total number of rounds of games won.
Teams are ordered using this tiebreaker on the AutoTournament page.

NOTES:
Dako and Chariot of Fire have been disqualified for violating the sitting rule.
VioIet and NoSurvivors have been disqualified because NoSurvivors has been banned for point dumping.

Round 2A should start soon.

sempai

[agentcom]

Cool. Thanks!

[dkmaster]

Just send this pm to sempai and maybe some of you has an opinion to this matter

Hi sempai

Just looked at the big double tournament were round 2 is soon to start.

You have put in tiebraker rules that total rounds of won games count and that is ok

But looking at first team which is still in with only 5 points like my partner and I

Gabriel13 and Emilywink total rounds 41 and dkmaster, mrpinky total rounds 41

How did you decide that we were out and they were in ?

Another used tiebreaker in these large tournaments are wins going second. That should be used as tiebreaker rule number 2.

There I counted that gabriel/emily has 1 and dkmaster/mrpinky has 3

I didnt check the other yet but will do now and be back soon

But looking at the above we should still be in the tournament

regards


dkmaster

[dkmaster]

Just looked up the tiebreaker rules for auto tournaments

Ties in Score shall be broken by the following rules, applied in order:

Percentage of wins in the tournament as a whole
The cumulative number of Game rounds required to win the games they have won in the tournament (winning in less rounds is better)
The order in which the player joined the tournament (first player to join wins)

There is a third rule. I sure dont like it and prefere looking at win going second.

But looking at the third rule we would still be ahead as we joined first.