Subprime Crisis 2008 [Winner: gunner1980]

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Subprime Crisis 2008 [Winner: gunner1980]

Postby gdeangel on Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:06 pm

Let's try something with some immediate relevancy. This is the sub prime tournament. It has two phases:

Part 1. Banks, Originate As Much Loans as Possible, Regardless of Credit (Hey, Investors Will Eat that Sh!t up). Borrowers, Rack it Up, Baby (They're Practically Giving It Away!?)

Part 2. Get Bailed Out by the Deep Pockets (That Sh!t is Toxic... sell, sell, sell / Mortgage reformation)

Here's how it will work. Each player will play 4 matches of 5 player, standard, flat, fog and will be randomly matched up with other players into four brackets that will play: 1 game on Madness!, 1 on Prohibition Chicago, 1 on San Francisco, 1 on NYC (the american dream in a few select bubble locations). This is where loan out your points - every time you win, you go deeper in debt borrowing points form the losers, getting more cash.... while the bankers get more fees, bigger bonuses, and so forth.

At the end of the first round of games, the players will be ranked according to who has "lent" out the most capital and who has "borrowed" the most. The 4 biggest "balance sheets", both positive & negative, will be sent for a bail out to the US Senate. There, the the biggest point winners and losers will slog it out. It will be 8 player, standard, sunny *UPDATE*: CARDS TO BE SET BY VOTE OF FINALISTS** (about time), as the bankers with their toxic loans fight for a bail out package against the "homeowners" who resist sending their tax dollars to wall street along with their monthly mortgage payments. Who will win? Only one way to find out... winner of the senate match will walk away with all the $$$ and the tournament win.

Entry is open to freemium, but you must have all four slots open for the first round as games will go simultaneous (you will get a 1 week warning when sign ups get close to filling so to clear your slate).

I am going to initially set this for 20 players. Here is what it will look like... despite all the hub-bub, this is a really simple tournament:

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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [19/20]

Postby gdeangel on Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:07 pm

Roster
  1. dittoeevee8888
  2. blockhead15
  3. musteriuz
  4. lach07
  5. JustCallMeStupid
  6. astompel
  7. G_M
  8. danodukebb
  9. DanOfWar
  10. nick11
  11. scorpion86
  12. Zorbas
  13. KidWhisky
  14. dimeat
  15. Darin44
  16. riv74
  17. Jackofalltrades
  18. Marfski
  19. Soldier4Christ
  20. Hands of Blue

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With 20 players, we are going forward with the full 4-map qualifier rather than the three I proposed above. I'm afraid by the end of this tournament you will know the "Madness" of impending foreclosure on the cherished family home... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [0/20]

Postby gdeangel on Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:07 pm

Result of final game: gunner1980 has walked away with the bail out money and is the winner of the tournament. =D> =D> =D>

Here is a link to the final game if you are interested: Game 3684464

Preliminary Round 1 results (all but 2 games complete) can be found here: clicky
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [0/20]

Postby gdeangel on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:24 pm

16 views and no interest... geeezzzz... guess everybody's eyes to glaze over when we start going into finance issues. Well, to fix that, I've added a visual prop with lots of pretty colors :lol:
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [0/20]

Postby dittoeevee8888 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:28 pm

Actually, I forgot to post "in", but I have a question. So basically, you are either trying to win everything or lose everything, right? But in the finals, would it really matter?

[in though]
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [0/20]

Postby gdeangel on Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:11 pm

dittoeevee8888 wrote:Actually, I forgot to post "in", but I have a question. So basically, you are either trying to win everything or lose everything, right? But in the finals, would it really matter?

[in though]


Well, sort of... you are trying to win as many points as possible in the first round, but if it looks like you are going to lose, then you want to lose as many points as you can (i.e., leverage and take a big risk). Simply suiciding out of the game or deadbeating is unlikely to pay off, because then someone who has a higher rank might win, and you lose less points. You want to try to control the outcome of the game. And, because you won't really know how many points the other people in the tournament are losing until the games are over, it's going to probably be better to have a "win" strategy than a lose strategy. But when the dust settles, the four "biggest losers" will get to roll for the win along with the four biggest winners. Think of it this way: there are four games and five players in each bracket. If each player takes one game, then the only player with four losses is probably going to be the one in the finals, but not definitely (they could have a really really low rank and only lose 1 point each game or something. In that case, their only real strategy is to win).

In the finals, the idea is that there is a huge 8 player pot, so whoever win gets away with the windfall. It doesn't matter how you got to the finals. If you win in the Senate, you win the tournament.
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [1/20]

Postby musteriuz on Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:03 pm

I like the idea, but not the No Cards in the final. Is that negotiable - as the terms of a loan might be?
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [1/20]

Postby gdeangel on Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:16 pm

musteriuz wrote:I like the idea, but not the No Cards in the final. Is that negotiable - as the terms of a loan might be?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He he, sure. We'll say that the vote of the 8 finalists can pick the cards for the finals. If you get 51%, you can have esc, flat, whatever.
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [1/20]

Postby blockhead15 on Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:20 pm

im in
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [1/20]

Postby musteriuz on Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:30 pm

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musteriuz wrote:I like the idea, but not the No Cards in the final. Is that negotiable - as the terms of a loan might be?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He he, sure. We'll say that the vote of the 8 finalists can pick the cards for the finals. If you get 51%, you can have esc, flat, whatever.


Okay then, I'll play.
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [2/20]

Postby lach07 on Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:34 pm

Sounds like fun. I'm in.
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [4/20]

Postby gdeangel on Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:04 pm

Wow - I am really surprised interest is so low. This would be a pretty fast, short tournament that's not so different that a "second chance" tournament, and any other "random bracket" tournament. Why no interest? Can nobody appreciate the economic times we live in???

If we don't have at least 15 sign ups by the end of this week, I'm going to scrap this. If we have 15, I will go forward with 3 games instead of four in the brackets, using the cities and dropping madness. That means freemium can get by with three open slots.
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [4/20]

Postby JustCallMeStupid on Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:56 pm

Ill join into the debt game.... Ill invite my friends.... They owe me some points :)

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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [4/20]

Postby astompel on Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:04 am

I'm in.
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Postby G_M on Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:21 am

great idea, i'm in
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Postby danodukebb on Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:33 am

in for sure!
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Postby DanOfWar on Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:46 am

Yeah, put me in please

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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [4/20]

Postby nick11 on Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:52 am

i'm in
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Postby scorpion86 on Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:02 pm

0 down, no credit check........sign me up
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Postby Zorbas on Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:47 pm

i'm in
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Postby KidWhisky on Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:25 pm

Well I think I had better give this one a go. Sounds pretty good.
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Postby dimeat on Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:20 pm

i'll play
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Postby Darin44 on Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:07 pm

put me in
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Re: Subprime: zero down, no credit check [15/20]

Postby gdeangel on Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:33 pm

[George Bush Impresario]: We have a big problem. We must act now. The markets have seized. Unless we take action there will be massive bank failures (but don't panic, Paulson's plan will fix it). I have asked Congress to start this program right now. All we need is five more votes, and our plan can go forward.
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Updated to this point. Only 5 more players needed!
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Postby riv74 on Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:10 am

hi as im sure ill be one of the biggest point losers can i join in?
at list im sure ill be in the final hahahahah :)
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