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Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 pm

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Europe 1914.
On 28 June 1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb student, shot and killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne in Sarajevo.
The Austro-Hungarian government used the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand as a pretext to deal with the Serbian question, supported by Germany. On 23 July 1914, an ultimatum was sent to Serbia with ten demands, some so extreme that the Serbian reply included reservations and rejected the sixth demand. The Serbians, relying on support from Russia, removed acceptance of the sixth key demand (the draft reply had accepted it), and also ordered mobilization. In response to this, Austria-Hungary issued a declaration of war on 28 July.
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Preparation for war is in your hand.Use all your skill do defeat Entente or Central Powers,and change History.
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Ok,these whas short story for these map.
Map Description:
Terittory-54
-Russian Empire(10 terittory)
-United Kingdom(3 territory)
-France(6 territory)
-Balkans States(6 terittory)
-Ottoman Empire(7 Terittory)
-Austro Hungarian Empire(6 terittory)
-German Empire(6 terittory)
-Italian Kingdom(5 territory)
-Cyprus(1 territory)
adition no country and no bonus value terittory-5
-Bay of Biscay,North Sea,Baltic Sea,Mediterannean Sea,Black Sea.

bonus value
-Russian Empire-7
-United Kingdom-2(Hold United Kingdom and Cyprus for an additional +1)
-France-5
-Balkans States-3
-Ottoman Empire-3
-Austro Hungarian Empire-5
-German Empire-5
-Italian Kingdom-3

Auto deploy bonuse to each capital +1
-Saint Petersburg
-Paris
-London
-Rome
-Berlin
-Vienna
-Constantinople
-Sofia

Abbreviations on map
M-Montenegro
Be-Belgium
Bs-Bessarabia
A-Albania

Gameplay
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Capital territory starting neutral:
-Saint Petersburg(3 neutral)
-Paris(3 neutral)
-London(6 neutral)
-Rome(3 neutral)
-Berlin(3 neutral)
-Vienna(3 neutral)
-Constantinople(3 neutral)
-Sofia(3 neutral)


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Victory Condition 1
Capture Central Powers Capitals to Win games
-Berlin
-Vienna
-Constantinople
-Sofia

Victory Condition 2
Capture Major Entente Powers Capitals to win games
-Saint Petersburg
-London
-Paris
-Rome
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note-gray terittory present nonplayabile terittory.

update 8 nov
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Do you think that its worth to bring these map back in live?
Ofcourse need more work to bring map in present standards.
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:12 pm

where's the link qwert.. is there one?
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING

Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:04 pm

Who know where is these topic,deep in foundry :?
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:38 pm

it looks playable for sure... but you're right, it needs a graphics overhaul
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:40 pm

qwert wrote:Who know where is these topic,deep in foundry :?


Here is the link to Simonov's Europe 1914.
viewtopic.php?f=242&t=23528&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=europe+1914

And here is the link to your old thread....all 17 pages, but there are no images.
viewtopic.php?f=242&t=8921&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=europe+1914
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby The Viking on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:42 pm

The Ottoman Empire is the only thing about this map really that makes it different from any other Europe map, isn't it?
But I understand there's a LONG way to go, you will change the gameplay and not just the graphics right?
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:45 pm

by The Viking on Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:42 am

The Ottoman Empire is the only thing about this map really that makes it different from any other Europe map, isn't it?
But I understand there's a LONG way to go, you will change the gameplay and not just the graphics right?

These need big redesign.
Not just ottoman,you have austro hungarian empire,and german empire,also you have Russian empire. Balkan is also diferent then in other maps.
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby The Viking on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:54 pm

Oh right Austro-Hungary.

I'd like to see this map go further! There are a lot of different ways you can go with gameplay. It will be interesting to see.


Btw, that Simonov map cairns linked to is just the Diplomacy board with a legend :-s
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:35 pm

Qwert, just for your info....i am about to start a series of WW1...and the maps I am planning to do are:
1. WW1 - Africa
2. WWI - Ottaman Exmpire
3. WWI - Gallipoli
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING page 1

Postby Qwert on Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:53 am

by cairnswk on Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:35 am

Qwert, just for your info....i am about to start a series of WW1...and the maps I am planning to do are:
1. WW1 - Africa
2. WWI - Ottaman Exmpire
3. WWI - Gallipoli


Well all three is difernent and present only small part of WWI,expecialy Gallipoli these is one of smaller fronts like omaha beach.
I thinking that if i have free space on map to create several insets for main fronts-Western front-Thessalonika front-Eastern front,but these all depend on space.
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-first update page 1

Postby Friskies on Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:43 pm

The first map was more original. Going back to old frontiers in Europe is more interesting than the traditional Europe's map. The actual Europe map is really good, though taking a part of Africa.
On the second map, I should add that there are some split countries which make it less readable, then playable or enjoyable. For instance, France was cut into 2 (occupied zone and the other), not 3.
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-first update page 1

Postby Qwert on Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:45 pm

by Friskies on Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:43 pm

The first map was more original. Going back to old frontiers in Europe is more interesting than the traditional Europe's map. The actual Europe map is really good, though taking a part of Africa.
On the second map, I should add that there are some split countries which make it less readable, then playable or enjoyable. For instance, France was cut into 2 (occupied zone and the other), not 3.

These borders is in 1914.Africa will not be on game.

Second map is only what i work far before in mine begining,when i dont know good how map is created. Mine new start begining from first map.Also i think that you confused with wars,these is not WWII,and France whas not occupied in any zones. ;)
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-update 15avg page 1

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:48 pm

Second update-borders and names
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-update 15avg page 1

Postby whitestazn88 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:15 pm

it looks cool, but the reason i like your maps is because they have cool colorways, that no one would think to use... i say go for that on this map too
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-update 15avg page 1

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:29 pm

by whitestazn88 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:15 pm

it looks cool, but the reason i like your maps is because they have cool colorways, that no one would think to use... i say go for that on this map too

Well colour will be change,aim just use these colour to not be white background.
But you right,i will not put some extra fancy colours,again i must try to create old map feel.
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Re: EUROPE 1914--------------RETURNING-update 15avg page 1

Postby gimil on Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:30 am

Seems we all got a little losted! Moved you over to the drafting room qwert.


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Re: EUROPE 1914---update 18 avg page 1

Postby Qwert on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:04 pm

new update
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Re: EUROPE 1914---update 18 avg page 1-2

Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:22 pm

tomorow i will try to update
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Re: EUROPE 1914---update 18 avg page 1-2

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:39 am

i have some problems with photobucket. #-o
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Re: EUROPE 1914---update 18 avg page 1-2

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:45 pm

well i manage to upload over ImageShack(still dont know why i can open page in Photobucket-Username and password is correct but still can not open)

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Re: EUROPE 1914---new update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22 avg page 1-2

Postby ZeakCytho on Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:49 pm

For a continent on the brink of war, the colors seem a bit too bright to me.
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Re: EUROPE 1914---new update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22 avg page 1-2

Postby Qwert on Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:49 am

by ZeakCytho on Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:49 am

For a continent on the brink of war, the colors seem a bit too bright to me.

Dont like colours?What brink mean?
I thinking that brightnes look good with rest of map,but maybe aim wrong?
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Re: EUROPE 1914---new update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22 avg page 1-2

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:22 pm

I like the idea of a border around the map, but I'd continue to rework it. The one you have presented now is almost too flashy and distracting.


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Re: EUROPE 1914---new update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22 avg page 1-2

Postby Qwert on Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:08 pm

by AndyDufresne on Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:22 pm

I like the idea of a border around the map, but I'd continue to rework it. The one you have presented now is almost too flashy and distracting.


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What you mean?to be darken or what?
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Re: EUROPE 1914---new update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22 avg page 1-2

Postby Cdkutusu on Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:39 pm

I think the Legend needs reworking, at least the parts of Entente Powers and Central Powers

You don't need to write all the small kindoms in Entente Powers, I guess Russia, French and British would be enough.
In any case, your bonuses are close to that anyway.

Also, you didn't show connection to British islands, how will be the passing?
You can arrange Montenegro and Albania better, just putting M. and A is not so good I think

But map looks promising, I liked the outline especially.
One more thing, you can choose more distinctive and darker colors for continents. It would look better for a dark war :)

Keep up good work :) Cheers
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