Philadelphia: BETA - image/xml updates - 4/17

[Industrial Helix]

This is is ready for gameplay for sure.

[Evil DIMwit]

I don't like that the two northeast bonuses together only have one and a half borders with the rest of the map. Not sure what's the best way to fix that, though.

[FrancisBoyle]

Now that Jersey is gone you don't need the bridges. You need the South St. bridge or something to connect center city with university city. Port Richmond should maybe also connect to Bridesburg. Also, might want to call "Northern Liberties" bonus "North Philly" instead. I think the graphics are OK. This map is definitely going to need that underdog bonus to give it a unique quality though.

[porkenbeans]

Yes, I agree with you Red, Just Philly is best. It gives you a place to put the legends. Although, I would change the color of the text in the legend to something different than the rest.

[RedBaron0]

There's a number of ways to go, adding in a few connections will alter bonus values. They're kinda subjective at the moment.

I could do:
SW Philly + South Philly into a larger South Philly Bonus with an additional connection from University City to the Art Museum
Just add the connection between University City and the Art Museum
The Great Northeast + Northern Liberties = a larger Great Northeast bonus with an additional connection from Bridesburg to Port Richmond
Just add the connection between Bridesburg and Port Richmond

Or any combination of these.

Now that Jersey is gone you don't need the bridges. You need the South St. bridge or something to connect center city with university city. Port Richmond should maybe also connect to Bridesburg. Also, might want to call "Northern Liberties" bonus "North Philly" instead. I think the graphics are OK. This map is definitely going to need that underdog bonus to give it a unique quality though.

Remember, the bridges are a bonus too now, and connect though a killer neutral. (New Jersey tolls) Weirdly this is actually true on 3 of the 4 bridges, the tolls are only paid from the Jersey side heading into Philly, NOT from Philly into Jersey.

Alright, I'll work on ironing out the underdog bonus structure.

[isaiah40]

Remember, the bridges are a bonus too now, and connect though a killer neutral. (New Jersey tolls) Weirdly this is actually true on 3 of the 4 bridges, the tolls are only paid from the Jersey side heading into Philly, NOT from Philly into Jersey.

New Jersey, they got you coming and going! Looking good no real comments right now.

[RedBaron0]

Remember, the bridges are a bonus too now, and connect though a killer neutral. (New Jersey tolls) Weirdly this is actually true on 3 of the 4 bridges, the tolls are only paid from the Jersey side heading into Philly, NOT from Philly into Jersey.

New Jersey, they got you coming and going! Looking good no real comments right now.

Not coming and going, just going.... Delaware River Port Authority. That's why a lot people always try and use the Tacony-Palmayra Bridge if up that way, it isn't owned by the DRPA. The toll is just $2, compared to the $4 for the other 3 bridges. Only drawback (no pun intended) is that the Tacony-Palmayra Bridge is a a bascule bridge... Get caught over there when the bridge is up, and you'll wish you went down to the Betsy Ross and paid the extra 2 bucks.

I'm working here and thereon the map, I'll give ya'll an update soon enough.

[Z-Rambo]

My only question is: Why have the Bridge bonus, if there are no connected territories with them and they revert to a 4 neutral? No New Jersey would make that bonus useless since it reverts to 4 neutral every turn. I recommend adding New Jersey in 4 segments.....Mount Holly(North), Cherry Hill(North-Central), Camden(South Central), and Vineland(South), thus giving a reason for the bridge use and giving 4 more territories not taking from Philadelphia.

[RedBaron0]

It doesn't work like that. The Spot in New Jersey is the toll booth... I should think about putting a toll booth graphic there. The bridges connect to the tolls, and the toll booth connects to the bridges. Only the toll is a killer neutral. You can theoretically attack from Tacony down to Penn's Landing via the bridges and the toll booth going through just 5 territories.

I've been playing with some things here tonight, but I need to get some sleep, I'll have some time tomorrow too, and horefully will throw out some numbers to look at, and maybe an update as well.

[Z-Rambo]

Here's an idea. Instead of tolls, make New Jersey the connector for all the bridges and either have New Jersey as a reverting 10 neutral or make each bridge a reverting 4 neutral while adding New Jersey as an extra territory in whole with a minus 1 troop each round held(Call it the New Jersey Tax).

[carlpgoodrich]

I like it. NJ can be convenient for getting around, but no one wants to stay there -1 per round for holding the NJ territory, which connects the bridges, works well both from a gameplay and a humor standpoint, haha.

[RedBaron0]

hahaha love it, I 'll throw up(no pun intended) what I got in a bit.... hopefully. Been busy, and now sick with the flu. Math is difficult right now.

[Victor Sullivan]

hahaha love it, I 'll throw up(no pun intended) what I got in a bit.... hopefully. Been busy, and now sick with the flu. Math is difficult right now.

First me, then MarshalNey, then you! Lol... No, being sick sucks...

The Jersey idea sounds good to me, too. Can't wait to see the update!

-Sully

P.S. Let me know if you need help on your math homework

[Joodoo]

Sorry if I'm visually impaired, but for some reason I don't see a "Toll" territory on the map?
Great map btw.

[FrancisBoyle]

I really like the idea of attacking the other bridges through an NJ territ. Maybe just have one territory called "South Jersey" and have it be a small neutral that resets to neutral after you attack through it to get to another bridge. This way you could just have a toll territory on the bridges, instead of 2 for bridge and toll. Hmmm, not actually sure if that's better or not, but it's an idea.