Conquer Cup I

[DiM]

i've been analyzing the conquer cup prizes and it says this:

Grand Prize
* An Apple iPad2
* A press release sent to 1000 news outlets for your 15 minutes of fame
* Gold Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Semi-Finalist Prizes
* A $50 USD Amazon.com gift certificate
* Silver Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Quarter-Finalist Prizes
* Bronze Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Consolation Prizes
* We'll issue 100 free passes for the next Conquer Cup to randomly selected participants eliminated in Round 1

this means that:
* 1080 people will get NOTHING for their 5 bucks because they'll be eliminated in round 1.
* 180 more people that are eliminated in quarter finals will get a bronze cup. so again pretty much nothing
* 30 people that get eliminated in the semifinals get a silver trophy (crap) and a 50$ certificate on amazon.com. which for some people doesn't even cover the transportation costs so again kinda crap.
* and if you're one of the 5 people that got into the final game but lost you get NOTHING. NOTHING at all, not even a crappy cup or that gift certificate
* winner gets an ipad 2, 15 minutes of fame and a gold cup.


so what about the finalists? nothing at all? really?

To be a finalist, you first have to become a semi-finalist, which earns you a 50 dollar gift card. I don't see your problem.

it doesn't exactly specify that anywhere. once i qualified for the finals i'm no longer a semi-finalist but a full finalist so i should be in a whole different prize category. the one that normally comes just bellow the winner.
you have 1st rounder, quarter-finalist, semi-finalist, finalist, winner. as you can see all those categories except finalist are specified in the prize list.

also assuming you are right and a finalist receives the same $50 gift card it's still not ok. if i lose in the final game it means i'm better than somebody that lost in the semi final. in fact i just won the game against 5 semi-finalists. so the finalists should get more than the semi-finalists.

[denominator]

i've been analyzing the conquer cup prizes and it says this:

Grand Prize
* An Apple iPad2
* A press release sent to 1000 news outlets for your 15 minutes of fame
* Gold Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Semi-Finalist Prizes
* A $50 USD Amazon.com gift certificate
* Silver Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Quarter-Finalist Prizes
* Bronze Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Consolation Prizes
* We'll issue 100 free passes for the next Conquer Cup to randomly selected participants eliminated in Round 1

this means that:
* 1080 people will get NOTHING for their 5 bucks because they'll be eliminated in round 1.
* 180 more people that are eliminated in quarter finals will get a bronze cup. so again pretty much nothing
* 30 people that get eliminated in the semifinals get a silver trophy (crap) and a 50$ certificate on amazon.com. which for some people doesn't even cover the transportation costs so again kinda crap.
* and if you're one of the 5 people that got into the final game but lost you get NOTHING. NOTHING at all, not even a crappy cup or that gift certificate
* winner gets an ipad 2, 15 minutes of fame and a gold cup.


so what about the finalists? nothing at all? really?

To be a finalist, you first have to become a semi-finalist, which earns you a 50 dollar gift card. I don't see your problem.

By that logic, the winner receives a Gold, Silver, and Bronze medal. As well as the iPad and 15 minutes of fame, plus the $50 Amazon Card.

Once you move up a prize bracket, you forfeit all the prizes you "won" at the lower brackets.

[AgentSmith88]

Anybody else think a multi new recruit might slip into this thing? What happens when somebody gets booted in the middle of the game for "violating rules" and screws somebody over?

[patrickaa317]

I personally like it. I'm probably not going to join but if it makes lack a couple bucks that's great. It's strictly an optional part of the site. Granted everyone would like something else put in but it will always be that way.

[shijinn]

why not learn from the experts at Blizzard? allow tournament organisers to charge entry fees while the site gets a cut from the collection. THAT would be big news. supply and demand will improve the quality of tournament prizes making it a win-win for everyone involved.

[drunkmonkey]

why not learn from the experts at Blizzard? allow tournament organisers to charge entry fees while the site gets a cut from the collection. THAT would be big news. supply and demand will improve the quality of tournament prizes making it a win-win for everyone involved.

Amazingly enough, this is an even worse idea.

[Army of GOD]

Are Becky points transferable to CCP?

[spiesr]

i've been analyzing the conquer cup prizes and it says this:

Grand Prize
* An Apple iPad2
* A press release sent to 1000 news outlets for your 15 minutes of fame
* Gold Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Semi-Finalist Prizes
* A $50 USD Amazon.com gift certificate
* Silver Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Quarter-Finalist Prizes
* Bronze Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal

Consolation Prizes
* We'll issue 100 free passes for the next Conquer Cup to randomly selected participants eliminated in Round 1

this means that:
* 1080 people will get NOTHING for their 5 bucks because they'll be eliminated in round 1.
* 180 more people that are eliminated in quarter finals will get a bronze cup. so again pretty much nothing
* 30 people that get eliminated in the semifinals get a silver trophy (crap) and a 50$ certificate on amazon.com. which for some people doesn't even cover the transportation costs so again kinda crap.
* and if you're one of the 5 people that got into the final game but lost you get NOTHING. NOTHING at all, not even a crappy cup or that gift certificate
* winner gets an ipad 2, 15 minutes of fame and a gold cup.


so what about the finalists? nothing at all? really?

The way I interpret that list, Dim, is that when it says "semifinalist" it actually mean "people who won their semifinal match." Of course this means that only 5 people get the silver trophy & gift card, only 30 get the bronze cup, and everyone who won round 1 gets nothing. Not sure if I am right though...

[demonfork]

$5 bucks is a fair price for this tournament and I'm happy to pay it.

Ps technically I was the first person to suggest the conqueror medal since I was the only one that filled out the suggestion form.

[Gillipig]

Almost 30% of the players in Conquer Cup are below sergeant . It will be a horrible first round with missed turns and stupid moves. This is a real problem!! One player can easily f*ck up a 6 player escalating game. And as of now, two players in each games will be really low ranked.

[codierose]

can you remove the conquer cup link right in the way of game finder just as bad as the upgade one

[Chewie1]

So $5 dollars is about 3 english pound which is the same as a pint of beer or a starbucks coffee!

Hardly going to break the bank and no one forced me to sign up.... and hey I might even enjoy it.

[Blitzkrieg Frank]

for $5 entry and 1000+ players, the prizes should be increased. Why should the winner of a semi final get the same as a loser of the semi final. Anyone who plays in the grand finale should receive double that of a semi finalist. Like the idea and $5 is fair and not much at all, but prizes need to increase. That's my thoughts anyway.

[Agent 86]

No-one above colonel has joined up yet, lol..and only 9 colonels so far

[Pirlo]

reminds me of any greedy government who keeps fining ways to steal people's money!

[lackattack]

UPDATE

I corrected the wording about prizes (Finalist vs Semi-Finalist etc...)

Conqueror medals have been issued: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156116

[VOC]

Having cash flow problems lack? ConquerCLUB lol

[Bruceswar]

Having cash flow problems lack? ConquerCLUB lol

Really you think this is what this is about?

[sherkaner]

Having cash flow problems lack? ConquerCLUB lol

Really you think this is what this is about?

No, I don't think it is actually. It will help, obviously, but the main goal is to get ppl back to CC. The annoying thing is that you can't make the Conquer Cup free, and below 5 dollar the transaction costs are too high to really be useful. But the tourney feels quite thin to me.
Won't stop me from joining though, the official status and being the first conquer cup counts in my book (and hopefully helping the site you enjoy).

[VOC]

Copyright © 2006 by Salamander Software. its a profit company, so duhhh,

[Chuuuuck]

Since the first day I joined this site, it has always been strictly enforced that no forms of gambling are allowed. We aren't even allowed to gamble points, much less money.

Now, I do enjoy sports betting and other small amounts of gambling and I have the extra income to do it with no problem. Therefore, I like this and will participate (even though it has a very bad EV). But do not sit here and tell us we can't gamble, then create a tournament that is exactly that where you benefit and take 75% of the profits and put them in your own pocket. As someone else suggested, if you are going down this route, open up other tournaments to have entry fees and allow them to keep the entry fees in the prize pool for the tournaments with you taking a small amount on top. Not this 75% bullshit.

I will say I agree with others that have posted though. Very bad business move on your part. Eventually numbers will go way down I think but you may be able to get more money per player from those that are here. I think total revenue drops though.

[natty dread]

So, 5 people will get a $50 gift certificate, and one person gets the apple toy. What do you guys do with the rest of the ~6000 dollars?

[morleyjoe]

Count me out. But I would probably be willing to pay $5 to see things like the Map Rank coding fixed.

[VOC]

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[ws1]

I'd rather have the pint of Beer Chewie was talking about.