Juan_Bottom wrote:Look at this example:
Biden seemed to question Ryan’s assertion that administration officials called Syrian President Bashar Assad “a reformer” even when he was killing his own civilian countrymen. Ryan was right. Early in the bloody Syrian uprising Hillary Clinton called Assad a “different leader” who many in Congress believe is “a reformer.”
That's not a lie.
Biden exaggerated when he said House Republicans cut funding for embassy security by $300 million. The amount approved for fiscal year 2012 was $264 million less than requested, and covers construction and maintenance, not just security.
Not a lie either, he just rounded the number and made a slight exaggeration to make his point. I don't expect him to remember absolutely everything. Like where all the money in the world goes. I assume that Ryan didn't call him on this because he didn't know it either. And I don't expect him to.
These two comments and the Romney thing seem to be factcheck's biggest issue's with Biden at the debate. This is hardly the behavior of a liar.
The one lie that I thought that I caught Biden in was when he said that he wasn't told that the Benghazi consulate requested more security. I thought it was a brazen lie, but factcheck reports that there is no evidence that the requests ever reached the the top echelons of the Executive Branch.
Your splitting hairs. I could also split hairs on all the Ryan lies, but I have no interest in defending lying or exagerration for the sake of rhetoric.
There were a few instances where I yelled at the TV.
(1) The $5 trillion thing - It's that much over a long period of time, not in one year.
(2) The Medicare thing - All the Democrats did was move the money from one program to another, they didn't cut anything.
(3) The Libya thing - Just admit you're wrong and move on.
(4) The abortion thing - Awesome question. Great response by Representative Ryan (i.e. the Democrats are no longer just pro-choice, they are actively promoting abortion). Ridiculous response by the vice president. I suspect priests everywhere yelled at the television. So did I.