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spiesr wrote:So, how do we evaluate the authenticity of a claim in this game, we there is a finite but vast number of potential fake-claims available? We don't a have record of actions to compare it against yet. I suppose that as a Bodyguard we can just wait and see if he dies. (Since unless he gets blocked he should find a bullet to jump in front of within a few days.) The flip side to that is how long can we wait before deciding that it was fake? With only 12 players we won't likely have a lot of Days at our disposal.rishaed wrote:Ok I am Parker [b]Town Bodyguard[b], from Alien Mafia. Now can we please go somewhere else?
What does everybody else think?
DoomYoshi wrote:spiesr wrote:So, how do we evaluate the authenticity of a claim in this game, we there is a finite but vast number of potential fake-claims available? We don't a have record of actions to compare it against yet. I suppose that as a Bodyguard we can just wait and see if he dies. (Since unless he gets blocked he should find a bullet to jump in front of within a few days.) The flip side to that is how long can we wait before deciding that it was fake? With only 12 players we won't likely have a lot of Days at our disposal.rishaed wrote:Ok I am Parker [b]Town Bodyguard[b], from Alien Mafia. Now can we please go somewhere else?
What does everybody else think?
I say play it by ear. Definitely not a good D1 lynch target, and probably not a good D2 target either, but D3/4 we will start looking at it.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
DoomYoshi wrote:The reason I didn't unvote is because of your behavior after the case. Yes, my initial case was poor. However, your reaction to the case was even poorer, which caused the vote to stay where it is. I can understand why you are frustrated right now, and I am pretty pissed that you ended up being a bodyguard. However, venge-lynching me won't help anything.
Hank, if I haven't "done anything suspicious" as you claim, then why is edoc voting for me?
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:The reason I didn't unvote is because of your behavior after the case. Yes, my initial case was poor. However, your reaction to the case was even poorer, which caused the vote to stay where it is. I can understand why you are frustrated right now, and I am pretty pissed that you ended up being a bodyguard. However, venge-lynching me won't help anything.
Hank, if I haven't "done anything suspicious" as you claim, then why is edoc voting for me?
Sorry for the double post, buuut. . . You had a case? On me? When was that? Oh you mean that thing based on made up facts and when I go and disprove that case in under a paragraph you say I overreact? I had solid reasons to vote you, I needed my vote to stand out because I had a joke vote on you that I hadn't taken off, thus distinguishing it from the other vote. You say it was Poor???!! it was nonexistant, like my vote on Hank right now. And like I said elsewhere I don't lynch/kill ppl because of poor cases. I mean if you had anything that was actually existant I probably would have addressed it and moved on. As I tried to do before I noticed the inconsistencies. I mean you got no BW'ing, no OMGUS votes, not even that "squirming under pressure" that you talked about. I actually built a counter-case from your "case" on me . I'll get frustrated if you guys lynch me today.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
thechuck51 wrote:He [soundman]has posted once since confirm and it was to jump on the rish bandwagon.
I mean come on man. Your one of the fucking nominees. You force a claim for THIS? I know you aren't reading this much, you got prodded with me too, you just jumped on the current fucking wagon. Shame on you. If I were a vig I would peg you tonight without question.
I mean come on man. Your one of the fucking nominees. You force a claim for THIS? I know you aren't reading this much, you got prodded with me too, you just jumped on the current fucking wagon. Shame on you. If I were a vig I would peg you tonight without question.
That said, I know I've been in favor of pursuing cases but not actually willing to put my vote on them, mainly because I wanted to see them develop. But it's D1, early D1 at that. I don't see the point of supporting a case and not actually putting a vote there at this point, at least not without good reason.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
thechuck51 wrote:Prod received
unvote vote doom
As edoc said that was a weak wagon and I think there is enough time left in the day to get a claim out of doom.
I am still suspicious of soundman. He has posted once since confirm and it was to jump on the rish bandwagon. Major scumarining on his part.
Commander9 wrote:Rodion wrote:Vote Commander9 for being Commander9.
I am convinced by your argument.
Vote Commander9.
Not sure what you mean by "lose a bodyguard." A bodyguard played properly is going to die eventually, being that the point of the vanilla bodyguard ability is to sacrifice yourself to prolong the life of someone more important. Accordingly if the mafia end up killing a bodyguard because the person claimed it isn't a total loss. By soaking up that nightkill the bodyguard is still fulfilling his purpose of preventing other town players from being killed, sub-optimally but not an entirely wasted death.Kanin Usagi wrote:I think we've had enough day one claims. We already may lose a bodyguard because of it.
Well scum will want to choose they fakeclaims based on what helps them win the most rather than what sounds most interesting. Normally this is going to be whatever they feel will give them the best chance of surviving as long as possible. As such, scum are going to want roles which are hard to disprove. Either something which doesn't leave any traces that can be detected and/or information that can be proven false, or something that that can fake using whatever powers they have as scum. So picking anything too powerful may be a poor choice, as eventually the lack of evidence will become apparent.rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:If I find a replacement before D2, they will replace crazymilkshake5 if not, his role will be modkilled.
DoomYoshi wrote:jonty125 wrote:If I find a replacement before D2, they will replace crazymilkshake5 if not, his role will be modkilled.
Everyone jumped down my throat for my interpretation of jonty's first post of the idea. Anyone else wanna handle the interpretation of this? Is this a VT sign?
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
jonty125 wrote:DoomYoshi (4) - spiesr; edocsil; rishaed; thechuck51;
rishaed (3) - soundman; Kanin Usagi; Hank44Soccer;
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch, as things stand DoomYoshi would be lynched.
Deadline is Friday 25 January at 1600 GMT.
DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED by 48 hours because of replacement.
Rule 6 wrote:Lynching to end the day early, requires a majority of the vote, and once the majority has been reached any and all unvotes will not be counted. If deadline is reached and there is a majority from the turnout, then the lynch will still carry on. If there is a draw, there will be a 24 hour run-off period where only voting is allowed and no discussion.
soundman wrote:I'm back! Unvote. My vote on Rish wasn't a serious vote. Unfortunately votes quickly piled up before I could unvote. IMO Doom is playing to his META and Hank is acting like a noob (is he a noob? I haven't seen him in any other games). Out of the two I'd be more inclined to vote Hank unless he's brand new.
Hank44Soccer wrote:rishaed wrote:For my Townie Defense I have this. . .rishaed wrote:Just a quick thought when claiming we really should include the Game that it was from. It makes things easier to check, and town should have no problem doing so seeing as there's no reason to worry about fakeclaiming.
However I will leave my joke vote on Doom atm...
[url=http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=213&t=183503&start=30#p4022651]jokevote]
As much as I like being targeted by someone who has been around longer than I have, This IS completely obvious as a joke vote, and the SECOND vote in the game, maybe a few minutes after it started. Now you are misconstruing facts and saying it was a scummy BW. I think the scummy one is yourself mister Yoshi. Thus, not is sound partially active, but I have caught you misconstruing facts so that I will seem scummy. This is a case where I will support completely. UNVOTE VOTE DOOM! just so you can read that mister scum
I voted for him, because, he's throwing out accusations, and the Big All caps text, seems over the top. I don't know why he's calling Doom Yoshi a scum , he hasn't done anything suspicious. I don't know what to think about his claim, it may or may not be true. I don't know what to think yet, but I do know, that he was getting really excited over nothing.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
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