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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - N6 16/25

Postby edocsil on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:07 am

Finally the Demons knew their foe. Gabriel walked the earth, returning the sinners and the fallen to the flock of Yahweh. To each he gave his forgiveness and each were saved. Gabriel bent down to heal a broken saint who slept fitfully on a dirty cot, but something distracted him. He turned, but too slowly. A silken strangling cord slipped around his neck and cut the air from his lungs. With great twists and leaps Gabriel tried to shake off his attacker, but his attacker was just as strong as he, and no mere mortal. As his vision began to fade the Demon bent close a whispered, "Listen to my name, it will be the last gift to you before you die" The Demon uttered his name with a hiss and Gabriel passed from the mortal plane.

Sometimes even the Angels died.

Jonty ~ Gabriel Archangel ~ Savior has been killed.

Day 7 has begun. 15 alive 8 to lynch. Deadline in ~ 2 weeks.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby VioIet on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:01 am

Hmm, that kinda seemed to be a dumb kill from the Mafia. Why kill someone already under suspicion?

Anyway, I say we continue with pressuring aage today.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby aage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:52 am

VioIet wrote:Hmm, that kinda seemed to be a dumb kill from the Mafia. Why kill someone already under suspicion?

Anyway, I say we continue with pressuring aage today.

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Pressure to what end?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:38 am

Pressure to death. Any results from last night? I fully support an aage lynch.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby aage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Pressure to death. Any results from last night? I fully support an aage lynch.

You fully support to lynch a claimed doctor. Someone will likely call wifom, but don't you think it's a bit suspicious that the only other guy that was suspected just got killed? I suppose you really could be that ignorant. I almost regret protecting your ass last night.

VioIet's wording of "pressuring" seemed off, hence I asked. If she wanted me lynched, she should have said lynched. What do you want from me?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:38 am

Well if the docswitch says you aren't the doc, I am inclined to believe him.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby DRoZ on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:43 am

Why bother protecting Doom? Clearly there are much more important people to have protected, namely Jonty.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby aage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:51 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Well if the docswitch says you aren't the doc, I am inclined to believe him.
Who are you exactly talking about? The docswitch was Vodean, and he was scum.

DRoZ wrote:Why bother protecting Doom? Clearly there are much more important people to have protected, namely Jonty.

Most productive and most townish to me. With 30% accuracy rate and the amount of leads we have, power roles are not extremely relevant.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:53 am

aage wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Well if the docswitch says you aren't the doc, I am inclined to believe him.
Who are you exactly talking about? The docswitch was Vodean, and he was scum.

DRoZ wrote:Why bother protecting Doom? Clearly there are much more important people to have protected, namely Jonty.

Most productive and most townish to me. With 30% accuracy rate and the amount of leads we have, power roles are not extremely relevant.


Docswitches always come in pairs. This was discussed already.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:14 pm

Gregwolf, #7 is an angel. Flavour suggests Raphael. I'm not sure if he's a "doctor", but he certainly is a protective role.

Yoshi, I had another theory regarding the doc switches since Rishaed flipped mafia doc. Maybe Vodean's catch was that if he turned our doc off, he would also be turning their own doc off? I'm not sure, but I do not think we have a town doc switch. And the doc switch never said Aage was not that doc. I also fail to see how the doc switch would know the identity of the doc (you're getting me confused here, buddy).

Anyway, back to the pool.

The original pool (4 out of 12):

gregwolf (12) ~ Saf, jonty, soundman, violet, aage, JG, Nag/Lovo, DRoZ, jak, ??? (Jak or Victor/Yoshi), Strike, Vodean

Post-flips pool (2 out of 6): Safari, Yoshi (if Jak's ??? vote is considered his), Violet, Aage, Droz and Strike

With Safari's claim of Michael and subsequent innocent results on Yoshi and Violet, our most accurate prediction is that we have 2 scum among Aage, Droz and Strike.

Strike's only scummy action was redirecting Saf's guilty away from Soundman: possibly an innocent mistake, but not sure. Aage and Droz are far scummier, especially the first, but it's still hard to know for sure which of the 3 is innocent. I suggest Strike and Droz claim their actions before Safari claims his.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:26 pm

DRoZ wrote:Why bother protecting Doom? Clearly there are much more important people to have protected, namely Jonty.


Any chance you watched someone important, namely Jonty?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:52 pm

I guess it's true that I don't know for sure how the doctors and docswitches function. Disregard the point, and let's go with the "on-the-listedness".

The NK suggests that mafia's kill failed and an SK is trying to narrow the list down for the same reason town is targetting the list. Or that the list info is wrong and the scum want us to start mislynching ASAP. Ideas?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby F1fth on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:35 pm

Vote Strike based on Ockham's Razor.

Are we really expected to believe that for no reason at all, we had a busdriver happen to target two scum on the night that a cop investigates one of them? Possibly, but I can think of no earthy reason why soundman and rishaed would be "chosen" unless strike already knew what they were. A random selection just doesn't explain it in on Night 4... especially from a mafia vet like strike.

I highly doubt that strike has a busdriving power at all. In fact, if strike were scum it would be trivial to throw rishaed under the bus to give both soundman and himself some credibility and a couple extra nights to make recruits. That's right, I'm calling strike out as the recruiter.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D7 15/25

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:43 pm

As a "mafia vet", I would never risk a powerful role like a recruiter to save a role blocker/vote stealer in exchange for a mafia doc. If it failed than it would cost an extra mafia and may be even Rishaed anyways through wifom. it is simply not worth the risk. I did explain my reasons for switching them if you wish to go back and look.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - N6 16/25

Postby aage on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:03 am

DoomYoshi wrote:I guess it's true that I don't know for sure how the doctors and docswitches function. Disregard the point, and let's go with the "on-the-listedness".

The NK suggests that mafia's kill failed and an SK is trying to narrow the list down for the same reason town is targetting the list. Or that the list info is wrong and the scum want us to start mislynching ASAP. Ideas?


edocsil wrote:Finally the Demons knew their foe. Gabriel walked the earth, returning the sinners and the fallen to the flock of Yahweh. To each he gave his forgiveness and each were saved. Gabriel bent down to heal a broken saint who slept fitfully on a dirty cot, but something distracted him. He turned, but too slowly. A silken strangling cord slipped around his neck and cut the air from his lungs. With great twists and leaps Gabriel tried to shake off his attacker, but his attacker was just as strong as he, and no mere mortal. As his vision began to fade the Demon bent close a whispered, "Listen to my name, it will be the last gift to you before you die" The Demon uttered his name with a hiss and Gabriel passed from the mortal plane.

Sometimes even the Angels died.

Jonty ~ Gabriel Archangel ~ Savior has been killed.

Day 7 has begun. 15 alive 8 to lynch. Deadline in ~ 2 weeks.

That theory cannot possibly be serious. During the past six nights, for some mysterious reason there have been no kills from a SK. The scene does not mention any failed kill attempt. The scene clearly mentions Demons.

If there were a SK, we would have known, and the scene would not have mentioned Demons as the acting party.

At this point I actually wouldn't rule out the possibility of a mafia framer. If there is one, this is a very obvious and bold play by the mafia, though.


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