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thegreekdog wrote:Very impassioned argument for what will be a very ineffective law.
She suggests, for example, that the Sandy Hook massacre was effective because the Assault Weapons Ban was no longer law. This is a dangerous suggestion to make.
xeno wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Very impassioned argument for what will be a very ineffective law.
She suggests, for example, that the Sandy Hook massacre was effective because the Assault Weapons Ban was no longer law. This is a dangerous suggestion to make.
A typical suggestion for a shill like maddow to make. She even throws in that she is a victim of sexism as she sits in her comfy news anchor chair. Screw that dyke
warmonger1981 wrote:She sucks. Lets make murder a crime then we dont have to ban guns. Oh... it already is a crime to kill. Looks like criminals dont follow the law. Go figure. I would of never thought.
xeno wrote:warmonger1981 wrote:She sucks. Lets make murder a crime then we dont have to ban guns. Oh... it already is a crime to kill. Looks like criminals dont follow the law. Go figure. I would of never thought.
This is the absurdity of what she is suggesting tgd. I get their arguments but soooo many laws are broken when these mass shooting sprees take place, taking rights away from citizens is not the answer. You're an anarchist yourself are you not?
warmonger1981 wrote:Thats why I think they want to take away weapons that are actually able to defend against a mob or government .
warmonger1981 wrote:As far as i know a vast majority of gun crimes are done with a pistol. Im not 100% on that but i dont think it was with assault weapons . Maybe someone can look up some statistics.
warmonger1981 wrote:Government profiles for political gain or government security. Pic a topic and manipulate public opinion to swing in a favorable direction. If the government speeks it is like a pimp to a hooker. Rarely do they tell the truth or sincerely care for the well beings of people. Self preservation is all the government cares about. not any of us.
thegreekdog wrote:warmonger1981 wrote:Government profiles for political gain or government security. Pic a topic and manipulate public opinion to swing in a favorable direction. If the government speeks it is like a pimp to a hooker. Rarely do they tell the truth or sincerely care for the well beings of people. Self preservation is all the government cares about. not any of us.
I don't disagree with that. One must work within the system, however; in order to do that, one must pick his or her battles. For example, would you want to use your cache of political capital battling the ineffective Assault Weapons Ban or build up your cache of political capital by calling attention to the ability of the executive branch to kill Americans indiscriminately?
Army of GOD wrote:I love how she doesn't think her audience can count to 152.
thegreekdog wrote: If the NRA were actually an organization that was supportive of gun owners (rather than gun manufacturers), it would be indifferent to the Assault Weapons Ban.
thegreekdog wrote:
The CDC did not find sufficient evidence to determine if the original Assault Weapons Ban was effective.
thegreekdog wrote:
In sum, both sides are stupid.
warmonger1981 wrote:Government profiles for political gain or government security. Pic a topic and manipulate public opinion to swing in a favorable direction. If the government speeks it is like a pimp to a hooker. Rarely do they tell the truth or sincerely care for the well beings of people. Self preservation is all the government cares about. not any of us.
PLAYER57832 wrote:warmonger1981 wrote:Government profiles for political gain or government security. Pic a topic and manipulate public opinion to swing in a favorable direction. If the government speeks it is like a pimp to a hooker. Rarely do they tell the truth or sincerely care for the well beings of people. Self preservation is all the government cares about. not any of us.
OH BULL.
Claiming that the government is some unified force that works against average people is the oldest and stupidest game in the book. We DO live in a democracy (OK -- Republic), though plenty seem intent on destroying that.
Its not "the government" that fights for all that, its individuals and groups of individuals who will benefit, particularly corporations and lobbiests (many of whom are corporations in essence if not in reality).
How about coming up with some real, workable solutions instead of just throwing out "gov'ment bad... erp".
PLAYER57832 wrote:Did you know that the main reason there is no evidence is that the NRA put pressure on the CDC. Officially, they did not, but…
PLAYER57832 wrote:I do take exception to one point you rejected.
thegreekdog wrote:Very impassioned argument for what will be a very ineffective law.
She suggests, for example, that the Sandy Hook massacre was effective because the Assault Weapons Ban was no longer law. This is a dangerous suggestion to make.
AAFitz wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Very impassioned argument for what will be a very ineffective law.
She suggests, for example, that the Sandy Hook massacre was effective because the Assault Weapons Ban was no longer law. This is a dangerous suggestion to make.
I consider it a more dangerous to not accept it was actually, possibly the truth.
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