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Funkyterrance wrote:In my case, yes it's an internet connection thing. My ping is really quite poor. There was some thread at one point that linked you to a site to find your connection speed and I was waaaaay below average.
There's also the problem with not liking the whole "watching" your games to take your turn advantageously. I went through this with one guy for a while as a team and it was really obnoxious. He'd wall me saying "go now now now!!!" I was like, gimme a break this is stupid. Speed freestyle you may ask? Haha, with my connection that's the stuff of dreams.
rhp 1 wrote:Funkyterrance wrote:In my case, yes it's an internet connection thing. My ping is really quite poor. There was some thread at one point that linked you to a site to find your connection speed and I was waaaaay below average.
There's also the problem with not liking the whole "watching" your games to take your turn advantageously. I went through this with one guy for a while as a team and it was really obnoxious. He'd wall me saying "go now now now!!!" I was like, gimme a break this is stupid. Speed freestyle you may ask? Haha, with my connection that's the stuff of dreams.
your first point, though accurate, is related to fs casual which is irrelevant to this convo, but yeah... fs casual is stupid... and yes, if your connection is poor, then that's an easy answer... I guess more to the point is... if you have a solid connection, why not give it a shot... I know it was worth the points I lost learning it...
greenoaks wrote:you only have yourselves to blame.
the pool of players is already small and then you foe those that wander in.
Dukasaur wrote:I don't like fs speed for the same reason I don't like real-time games of any kind: I want time to think. Maybe that's just because I'm getting old, or maybe not. I recall that even when I was much younger I hated speed chess, for example. So I doubt if you would ever make a fs speed demon out of me.
However, there are young people on this site who probably would get good at it, if they were given some friendship and mentoring. Greenoaks said it best:greenoaks wrote:you only have yourselves to blame.
the pool of players is already small and then you foe those that wander in.
Spend some time helping those who might be interested and it will pay off in the long run.
donelladan wrote:You say there is no farming in freestyle speed.
But what are the chance of a player winning against you if he does not have clickies? I'd say none, and that's why people consider it is a kind of farming. You play against people unaware of it, so you are just gaining easy points.
You may prefer playing players with same abilities than you for the rush and the challenge it gives you of course, but we cant ignore the other part.
And I think, when a noob ( speaking about freestyle) join one of your game, he does not even understand how you can be so fast, he played a game where he recognized he had 0% chance of winning, and probably decide to not play it anymore. I think thats the major reason why people dont play freestyle speed.
If you want it to change, you shoud, I think, always give link to clickies and explained to noobs why you beat them, that way they may learn and come back to kick your ass
anonymus wrote:well i think OP puts it in sort of a greyish light when he says that speed is not the most important part..
I play some fs speeders but ONLY on conquest-maps where i dont need to keep track of many stacks and there i am SOMETIMES quick enough, but still against experienced FS-specialists im mosty doomed..
as an example i managed to get a few wins on ST-Pat 8 man 1 min fs, but then this is a map where luck is a main factor..
on new world i win 70+% of my sequential games but FS im pretty much lost because i cannot take enough terr per turn to keep my deploy high..
on feudal i am specialized but still i only join fs-games when i am VERY bored because the speed-element is the same here as in new world (even with just 1 mainstack if you are 2nd on the auto-button when you clash you are doomed)
basically the only map im successful in FS speed is ww2 poland and its just because i know every move before i make it and against someone who can take 3 terr last 2 seconds im still lost..
and i think this is the reason why people dont play more fs.. if you are not a specialist and quick as a freaking rabbit (with a great line to the server) you WILL lose even if your strategy is good when faced with a specialist quick as a freaking rabbit with good line to the server..
so.. OP i think you are being a bit naive (or trying to reel more people in saying speed is only part of it.. or as marco pierre white would say (chef) speed can compensate for talent but talent cant compensate for speed (freely adapted to this scenario).
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Mr Changsha wrote:Dukasaur wrote:I don't like fs speed for the same reason I don't like real-time games of any kind: I want time to think. Maybe that's just because I'm getting old, or maybe not. I recall that even when I was much younger I hated speed chess, for example. So I doubt if you would ever make a fs speed demon out of me.
However, there are young people on this site who probably would get good at it, if they were given some friendship and mentoring. Greenoaks said it best:greenoaks wrote:you only have yourselves to blame.
the pool of players is already small and then you foe those that wander in.
Spend some time helping those who might be interested and it will pay off in the long run.
Is speed freestyle a young man's game?
ManBungalow wrote:I feel that the quality of those big escalating speed games has decreased in the last two years or so. Or at least I don't enjoy them as much now.
From 'my day' (get off my lawn!), speed has been a crucial part of the games, but somehow there was more strategy to it than a simple pissing contest, which it seems to be now. I used to lose an 8-player classic speed escalating game feeling that I'd been out-played or out-smarted, but now I feel like somebody quicker than me has won. Unless, of course, it's me winning. This actually also applies to freestyle 1vs1.
And I'm sure that jumping into your first ever freestyle speed game to be beaten by somebody moving at 90% of the speed of light could scare you off. I can imagine what it's like to lose all of your regions and have no idea what's happened. It follows from this that the current freestyle speed players are part of the same dying group, because nearly everybody else is intimidated off/foed. Is there a solution to this? I don't really think so.
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